Week 3. What will this week bring? Trump thread

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Actually, when we post polls, we tend to post more than one. It's interesting to see the variety of responses. Your point?

It's like he's Sally Field, holding that Oscar, crying "You like me, you really really like me!" Except she was sincere.....

Again, this self bias is astounding, no one takes the Express seriously, absolutely no one, until it seems that it can be used as a yard stick of public opinion to bash

The Express poll was taken as an example of manipulation and spin.

Any poll needs to be checked carefully - who was asked, how were they chosen, what were they asked.

That's why critical thinking is so important - open, honest and transparent facts.

You see it ALL the time on MN - people quoting data, facts and statistics repeatedly - but you need to go to the source.

Totally agree, but MN seems to take some polls at face value when the narrative suits... hence the outcry on here regarding the last GE and Brexit

Again, this self bias is astounding, no one takes the Express seriously, absolutely no one, until it seems that it can be used as a yard stick of public opinion to bash

It was used as an example of how the media can manipulate people - why do YOU think the Express used that headline?

Um, are people now going in circles agreeing with each other?

That way paralysis lies...

Are pp going to watch the program about Fake News on C4 tonight? Will be interesting!

otally agree, but MN seems to take some polls at face value when the narrative suits... hence the outcry on here regarding the last GE and Brexit

Of course people do - there should be no outcry.

But you would agree that inaccurate use of polls can be dangerous? Such as the Muslim example - which the Sun and the Daily Mail apologised for - but by then, the idea was out.

Looks like the USA is off to war....

We are not "MN". We are individuals. We've been tossing a lot of information around, looking at whether or not it may be valid, and trying to keep a pretty even keel here. I hardly think it's fair to add up the entire population of MN together and blame us for your maths in that regard.

I think you'll find that there are some of us on either side of the brexit issue here. We've discussed it (threads ago) and agreed to disagree and not get into a huge debate about it, as we didn't want to derail the US discussion. We still don't want to derail things.

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Actually, when we post polls, we tend to post more than one. It's interesting to see the variety of responses. Your point?

Really, because all Im seeing from you is spamming shit from Twitter that confirms your opinion..

If you would like to point out any opposing polls that you posted for balance and that is not just under a vanire of self-flagellation i would like to see it

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Do you mean veneer?
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America and its allies will defeat you.

"Going rogue" = "upholding the constitution"
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If you would like to point out any opposing polls that you posted for balance and that is not just under a vanire of self-flagellation i would like to see it

Can you quote any polls that have been posted on here about Trump?

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As Trump pretty much agreed with him (certainly didn't argue the point), why aren't they demanding an apology from Trump as well?

Really, because all Im seeing from you is spamming shit from Twitter that confirms your opinion..

Well, so much for polite.

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The USA is off to war and wants its Allies to join in - at least that's my interpretation.

Given Trump's attitude, I can't see that going down well in Parliament..

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Actually, the single thing DT has said that I even halfway agree with is that all NATO members should pay their fair share.

Yes, but Obama said it too. Nothing new there.

However, those countries aren't the only ones to benefit from NATO membership. Their membership serves US strategic interests, or it has in the past.

Have to agree ami

I'm heartened by the pots on The Independent's Facebook page, including this one:

"Dear People of Great Britain,

Like America, you don't need anyone to tell you of your greatness. You even have it in your name! This is the very reason why most of us in the USA, if we were to be in the Speaker of Parliament's shoes, would do the same. We wouldn't allow Opengroppenführer #POTUS45 to speak either.

There is one small request we would like to ask of you. Would you please be so kind as to keep him with you for the next four years? We ask you to please help us out with this one small favor. In exchange, we are willing to offer you Kansas as a small token of our appreciation.

Thank you ever so much!

Sane America"

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Really, because all Im seeing from you is spamming shit from Twitter that confirms your opinion..

Post alternative shit then that confirms yours then and keeeeeeep debating!