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Trump thread continued. Who rules the USA? Vote now.

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amispartacus · 04/02/2017 14:41

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2844593-Dont-put-the-phone-down-on-this-thread-Treat-it-with-respect-Its-the-official-Trump-thread-8?

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Deejoda · 05/02/2017 12:31

america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/5/20/russia-china-bankdeal.html

In other news...

ZebraOwl · 05/02/2017 12:33

m0stly

British version of second could make reference to Shakespeare Writing The Best Plays, ones about the murder of tyrants, like Hamlet & Julius Caesar.

Trying to think how you could get something in about the Queen & her ability to use a sword, given that Daily Mash article...

Destinysdaughter · 05/02/2017 12:41

Amusing reactions to ban on travel ban!

www.indy100.com/article/donald-trump-muslim-ban-blocked-federal-judge-james-robart-7563536

Weedsnseeds1 · 05/02/2017 12:43

Maybe add The Iron Heel by Jack London to your reading lists, alongside Brave New World and 1984?

BiglyBadgers · 05/02/2017 12:43

Ice T says it like it is... Grin

Trump thread continued. Who rules the USA? Vote now.
BiglyBadgers · 05/02/2017 12:46

If you're doing the whole set of dystopian authoritarianism you should also read 'We' by Yevgeny Zamyatin. The original and arguably the best.

Destinysdaughter · 05/02/2017 12:47

Ice T Grin

More info about feud between Owen Jones and SWP

www.indy100.com/article/owen-jones-on-trump-rally-7562891

BiglyBadgers · 05/02/2017 12:48

Oh, crose post. You win with the Iron Heel. Published 20 years before 'We'

Destinysdaughter · 05/02/2017 12:49

We is 99p on Kindle at the moment, just downloaded it, thanks, not heard of that book before!

2beesornot2beesthatisthehoney · 05/02/2017 12:53

These threads are the best for keeping up.
I don't really use twitter but I am wondering if I start following trump to see what garbage he is saying will I feature in his ever so important ratings? Would hate for him to benefit.

2beesornot2beesthatisthehoney · 05/02/2017 12:54

Which paper was the one that Trump is dissing so much and people are getting subscriptions for to support that paper?

originalmavis · 05/02/2017 12:55

New York Times isn't it?

BiglyBadgers · 05/02/2017 12:58

Interesting article destiny. I have been struggling to work out what Owen Jones' issue was. While I agree that the rape accusations are shocking I saw no evidence that the SWP had any larger part than usual in the protest. They were there, but just doing the standard handing out of stuff alongside a huge number of other groups. I also noticed this in the article:

"Of the ten member committee members in charge of Stand Up to Racism (whose president is Diane Abbott MP), only Weyman Bennett, is a member of the SWP."

So it sounds like even in the one group Jones is saying is a front for the SWP there is only a single SWP member on the board. Maybe he knows stuff we don't, but it doesn't seem all that convincing. I think this is an unhelpful over reaction from Jones and comes across a bit like he just wants his protests to be the most bigly and best protests ever.

I confess I have often found Owen Jones rather holier than though in the columns. He has a habit of rounding on people and groups he feels do not meet his exact standards of perfect leftness. So I may just be biased in my feelings about this issue.

Destinysdaughter · 05/02/2017 13:01

I like Owen but I don't think this is the time for in fighting, the cause is too important.

Splitters!

Weedsnseeds1 · 05/02/2017 13:02

Farenheit 451 Ray Bradbury?

Formerpigwrestler9 · 05/02/2017 13:03

Where is trump? Hasn't he usually started tweeting by now?

GingerIvy · 05/02/2017 13:06

Justin Wolfers ‏*@JustinWolfers* Feb 4
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Amazing diversity as Trump's senior staff is sworn in: White men of many heights, tie colors nym.ag/2kBPiBG

Weedsnseeds1 · 05/02/2017 13:07

dl.nfsa.gov.au/module/1607/
Maybe the Australians suggested a swim while on holiday?

Floisme · 05/02/2017 13:08

I remember SWP and Militant Tendency used to loathe each other - probably more than they loathed Margaret Thatcher. It was very tribal and they were the Celtic and Rangers of left wing politics.

cozietoesie · 05/02/2017 13:14

Bear in mind The Aftermath.

Roussette · 05/02/2017 13:17

2bees I'm not on Twitter but I can see all the Fat Orange One tweets, plus the replies.

If you just google "Trump tweets" it will bring it up, then click on twitter and you can see all that is going on.
Smile

Weedsnseeds1 · 05/02/2017 13:17
Kazakhstan Second video!
MercyMyJewels · 05/02/2017 13:20

The SWP have always been hated by some in the Labour party for being 'Trots'. I am fairly biased against them as they, in their newspaper completely made up a story about me when I was on marches during the Miner's strike in the 80's.

But I can't get with Owen Jone's condoning TRA/ the cotton ceiling. I quite enjoyed 'The Establishment' though

MercyMyJewels · 05/02/2017 13:21

Apostrophe fail

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