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to think immigration is too high

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mamamea · 23/06/2016 20:08

Net migration hit an all-time record high today, according to the Office of National Statistics:

www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/23/uk-population-grew-half-million-net-migration-ons

AIBU to think that given that England is already the second-most densely populated country of its size on the planet (behind only Bangladesh), that immigration is too high and should be reduced to zero, given that we also have a positive (and booming) natural population increase (deaths have never exceeded births in the UK, except perhaps during war)?

Why on earth would we possibly want to pack more and more people into an ever smaller space?

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FrancesNiadova · 23/06/2016 20:17
Biscuit
DesignedForLife · 23/06/2016 20:47
Biscuit
Capricorn76 · 23/06/2016 20:57

FFS.

Waffles80 · 23/06/2016 20:59

Or, we could send all the bigots to live elsewhere? Ideal solution really.

Wolfiefan · 23/06/2016 21:00

Waffles. That's a bloody awesome idea!! Grin

ThenLaterWhenItGotDark · 23/06/2016 21:02

That you Nige? Not been invited round to Bojo's gaffe for the pie and pea supper?

PerpendicularVincent · 23/06/2016 21:04

Aren't you meant to be campaigning, Nigel?

hidingwithwine · 23/06/2016 21:05

Just England eh? or do you mean Britain

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GinIsIn · 23/06/2016 21:06

It's less than 0.5% of the U.K. population. To put it into perspective, there are more gingers in Britain than immigrants. It's probably about a 6th the number of people on mumsnet.

chicaguapa · 23/06/2016 21:07

The biggest drain on public services is the aging population and people living longer, not immigration. I think the solution is to limit how long people can live for. That way we can make way for new people and we'll never be full.

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Waffles80 · 23/06/2016 21:09

That's an even better idea than mine Chica.

VertiginousOust · 23/06/2016 21:09

I'm questioning your statistics tbh. Bangladesh is almost half the size of the U.K. By land mass, and has a population density of 1115 people per km2. It's 10th on the list by population density. The U.K. in contrast has a population density of 262 people per km2 and is 51st on the list by population density.
Where did you get your figures from?

FlyingElbows · 23/06/2016 21:09

For fuck actual sake will you bigots get your damn heads round the fact the United Kingdom contains three other countries besides bloody England!!!!! Good God why am I even engaging with this twitter?

ShowOfHands · 23/06/2016 21:10

Is it Friday yet? I can't take much more of this twattery.

Okay377 · 23/06/2016 21:10

There were 828,000 NI registrations to overseas nationals (people paying our taxes) in 2015, an increase of 8% (source: office of national statistics). That's going up too OP. Spoke to a taxi driver today who's been here 6 years and worked out he's paid an average of £300 a month in taxes since then.

I'm sure the many Brits who emigrate likewise work and pay taxes in their new countries. Isn't it wonderful to have a world getting nearer where people can move to new places and find opportunities.

In case it is of interest to you - the number of asylum applications in 2015 (latest data) is low, incidentally, its 38,878 compared to the peak of 103,081 in 2002.

FlyingElbows · 23/06/2016 21:10

Twattery. Fucking phone!

Heratnumber7 · 23/06/2016 21:11

OP, yes I do.

Ouriana · 23/06/2016 21:11

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Waffles80 · 23/06/2016 21:11

If OP wants to take me up on my Bigot Migration Programme she has to take a genetic test to prove she's 100% English. Any tainting to her pure Anglo blood and she'll have to stay here with all us forriners. not that I want her kind in my back yard

ShowOfHands · 23/06/2016 21:13

Don't question the stats Vert. They're true. All illegal immigrants get a mansion and a fucking boat and Jeremy Corbyn kicked my puppy. Facts. All facts.

mamamea · 23/06/2016 21:14

I mean net zero. We can still import doctors and have net zero immigration. Lots of people also emigrate.

"Where did you get your figures from?"

World population density. If you exclude small/city states, England (not Scotland) is second only to Bangladesh.

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wasonthelist · 23/06/2016 21:15

Depressing the number of people on Phone-ins and FB etc that use England and UK interchangeably (and I am English!).

Waffles80 · 23/06/2016 21:16

Why doctors would want to be imported to look after objectionable tiny minded folk like you, is beyond me.

Although I live in hope that it's maybe because the majority of people are less objectionable and tiny minded than you?

wasonthelist · 23/06/2016 21:17

Jeremy Corbyn kicked my puppy.

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mamamea · 23/06/2016 21:19

"To put it into perspective, there are more gingers in Britain than immigrants."

Where on earth do you get your ~~facts~~ lies from?

The ginger population of Britain is between 4 and 5%. Source: www.ucl.ac.uk/mace-lab/genetic-ancestry/guff_pages/guff_documents/Red-Head_Project.pdf

The foreign-born population of Britain is in excess of 13%. www.migrationwatchuk.org/statistics-population-country-birth

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