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to object to MNHQ forcing a MALE/FEMALE gender binary on my account.

732 replies

HairyLittleCarrot · 14/01/2016 11:43

I don't have any GENDER.

My MN account forces me to pick from two 'genders'.

I can't even opt out, it's a forced binary choice.

I'm not agender, pangender, cisgender, transgender, male gender, female gender or ANY GENDER.

If you want to know my sex, I am happy to provide that information. But you'll have to add that in as a field, because it doesn't exist currently.

Sex and gender are not the same thing. If you insist on collecting data by gender and making it a forced choice I would like an option as follows:

"Reject gender as a harmful, made up, bullshit concept".

Then when you analyse your account database you can say
X% identify as female gender
Y% identify as male gender
Z% reject gender as a bullshit concept.

AIBU to request MNHQ to alter my account details so that they do not misrepresent me?

OP posts:
whatdoIget · 14/01/2016 11:57

Why an idiot, Lurking? Horrible word which I forbid my child to say. You should know better. It's hardly idiotic to question something which one feels is wrong.

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 14/01/2016 11:58

YANBU.

JontyDoggle37 · 14/01/2016 11:59

If you don't like it, don't register, don't post. Simples.

YouAreMyRain · 14/01/2016 11:59

YANBU gender and sex are not interchangeable

HumphreyCobblers · 14/01/2016 12:00

YANBU

HanYOLO · 14/01/2016 12:00

YANBU

There needs to be an opt out

Otherwise v bad practice

0phelia · 14/01/2016 12:01

Dextermistress, MNHQ are now asking "Do you want to pretend to be a man or a woman based on your preconceived and damaging stereotype of "man / "woman"

Not, Do you have testes or ovaries. Or are you actually male or female.

This was problematic, now endemic.

RudeElf · 14/01/2016 12:01

If you don't like it, don't register, don't post. Simples.

Confused or ask if it can be changed? Imagine if no-one ever asked for a change in how things were done.

weeblueberry · 14/01/2016 12:01

Gender isn't bullshit but it is more fluid than lots of people think. More and more registration forms request sex over gender now and most allow you to opt out of the question entirely. It's not pandering, it's giving people more options to express themselves.

Samcro · 14/01/2016 12:02

i really don't understand.
what is mn asking?
does it ask if you are male or female??

DextersMistress · 14/01/2016 12:02

MNHQ, please could you change the question of 'gender' to 'sex' as it's incorrect.

No need for hysterics.

iwantbrewstersmillions · 14/01/2016 12:02

Oh god. What a load of crap.

I wish my life was full of such none issues as this.

It's a box. Tick it and get on with your life.

FatherRebulahConundrum · 14/01/2016 12:02

So I guess we must have achieved world peace, an end to poverty, and multilateral nuclear disarmament then. Jolly good.

Alisvolatpropiis · 14/01/2016 12:03

Gender is bullshit though.

HairyLittleCarrot · 14/01/2016 12:03

Seriously MNHQ

it's like giving me a forced choice between two religions, and I'm neither.

If the account data you really want to collect is sex, then ask for sex.

Why do you need this information?

OP posts:
OfaFrenchmind2 · 14/01/2016 12:04

Yeah Lurking, how dare you say the I-word? Or even comply to identify by the G-word? You are a right C-word. :)
OP: go have some good non-gendered hot beverage.

Leelu6 · 14/01/2016 12:04

YABU. Why complain about Mumsnet, a free website?

Why not complain about passport forms, doctors forms, school forms, etc.

When you use public loos, what loo do you use, male or female?

whatdoIget · 14/01/2016 12:05

God knows why people have to "express themselves" on all kinds of official and non-official forms? In the olden days we didn't feel we had to be constantly in a state of self-expression. What massive egos some people seem to have Confused

Stratter5 · 14/01/2016 12:06

Oh for crying out loud. Just chose what you identify with. Or go with your genes XX or XY, gender shares the same root word as gene (just double checked).

SuburbanRhonda · 14/01/2016 12:06

Could you not have contacted MNHQ directly, rather than indirectly by posting this thread?

At least that way they would see your request straight away rather than having to wait until someone reports this thread.

RudeElf · 14/01/2016 12:06

So I guess we must have achieved world peace, an end to poverty, and multilateral nuclear disarmament then. Jolly good.

I didnt realise OP had been assigned to tackle those issues.

Out of interest i will take it from your comment that you dont intend to ever raise a complaint about anything until all those issues are dealt with?

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 14/01/2016 12:06

When you use public loos, what loo do you use, male or female?

Er, female. Because I am female. Because my sex is 'woman'. And I'd have serious issues with someone whose sex is male and whose body is male using those toilets because they ticked a box saying they felt that their 'gender' was female.

Lucyccfc · 14/01/2016 12:07

Some people just love the attention don't they!

Really there are more important issues in life. If you were born with a penis, you tick male, a vagina, then female. If you have had you gender/sex changed, then tick the appropriate box.

EponasWildDaughter · 14/01/2016 12:07

So - hang on - it's the word that's wrong? The word 'gender' is being used to ask if you are male or female, and it should be 'sex'. Yes?

mamaneedsamojito · 14/01/2016 12:07

Ooh, my first ever Biscuit