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AIBU?

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To think this bus driver was 100% in the right?

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Cozy9 · 12/10/2012 17:57

A female passenger abuses the driver (swearing and racist abuse) and then hits him, he then hits her back, is he really in the wrong for doing this?

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Cozy9 · 12/10/2012 18:37

I think it's because they've deemed it to be suitable for adults only because of the language and violence.

Apparently the driver has been suspended. I hope he doesn't lose his job.
www.wkyc.com/comments/264953/91/Cleveland-RTA-bus-driver-suspended-after-punching-choking-passenger

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missymoomoomee · 12/10/2012 18:37

Yes he is absolutely in the wrong, that wasn't self defence that was him getting angry and then punching her full force in the face, it was sickening, as was her attack on him. As others have said 2 wrongs don't make a right.

usualsuspect3 · 12/10/2012 18:38

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missymoomoomee · 12/10/2012 18:40

I hope he does lose his job.

AgentZigzag · 12/10/2012 18:43

He should lose his job.

HorraceTheOtter · 12/10/2012 18:44

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frisson · 12/10/2012 18:45

Fuck her, she deserved it, as did the girl in WeAllHaveWings' link.

ForkInTheForeheid · 12/10/2012 18:45

YABVU. She was out of order but he was being just as verbally abusive as she was and he was not defending himself by hitting her. She was standing back, not continuing to hit him and he thumped her. Can't believe anyone thinks it was ok.

usualsuspect3 · 12/10/2012 18:47

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AgentZigzag · 12/10/2012 18:47

I agree with some of what you've said Horrace, I don't think you should hit someone thinking you're OK doing it because they won't hit back.

Tailtwister · 12/10/2012 18:53

Wow, that was some punch. No way he was right to hit her. He should have called the police.

Doyouthinktheysaurus · 12/10/2012 19:00

OMG YABVU, he was way out of order!

It's his job, you have to remain professional. He should have called the police or kicked her off the bus, you can't hit back FFS!

IMO it's not about male hitting female, it's about him being a professional, her being the customer. You don't assault your customers!

SofaKing · 12/10/2012 19:01

Hopefully a video like that will make anyone think twice before attacking someone else in the first place.

If people kept their hands to themselves it would be a better world.

SucksToBeScaryMe · 12/10/2012 19:01

I agree with you HorraceTheOtter! I would not dream of raising my hand to man nor beast for that very reason!

Noqontrol · 12/10/2012 19:05

Lose his job? He should go to bloody prison.

Tailtwister · 12/10/2012 19:06

I'm back because I really found that video upsetting. He hit her back to 'teach her a lesson', he didn't hold back at all and continued to attack her after the first punch. He seriously assaulted her and obviously had no qualms about doing it. I would be very surprised if he wasn't violent in his every day life.

Really, really disturbing. Even more so since some people here think it was justified.

KatyPeril · 12/10/2012 19:12

I'd have twatted the tit back aswell. I'm on his side.

QueenStromba · 12/10/2012 19:19

His reaction was disproportionate. I also don't agree that it was necessarily racist abuse since she was black herself and some groups of black Americans use the N word to each other in a non derogatory way.

Tailtwister · 12/10/2012 19:21

I agree Queen. That punch was way OTT. He was very lucky he didn't cause her permanent harm, or worse.

socharlotte · 12/10/2012 19:25

YABU. For one thing he is at work, in a professional position. He can't go go round hitting passengers no matter what the provocation! He will likely lose his PSV licence over this!.

MikeLitorisBites · 12/10/2012 19:44

I could maybe understand a slap back as a knee jerk reaction but he was just vicious. He was giving as good as he got verbally so I don't feel the tiniest bit sorry for him.

BupcakesAndHaunting · 12/10/2012 19:55

Hmmm, I'm of the school of thought that you don't start throwing punches if you're not prepared to take one back. I think there are some women in the world that mete out punches at blokes because they think their vagina will act like a forcefield to prevent them getting a whack back. If you don't want violence, don't be violent.

What's with all the black people on the bus calling each other the N word? I just wanted to sing that Clawfinger song at them about not calling each other n's. :(

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ENormaSnob · 12/10/2012 20:12

If you don't want hitting back then don't hit someone in the first place.

BupcakesAndHaunting · 12/10/2012 20:15

I hate all of this Neil Pye "there's never any excuse for violence, maaan" fuckwittery.

If I hadn't chinned that bitch two years above me in school the second time she tried to push me into a wall, I'd have spent the rest of my life at that school being bullied by her.