To think this bus driver was 100% in the right?

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A female passenger abuses the driver (swearing and racist abuse) and then hits him, he then hits her back, is he really in the wrong for doing this?

I couldn't have the sound on (for DD2 reasons)

I had the sound on but couldn't understand a word they were saying .

He's not her partner though is he? That would be domestic violence. He's just been lamped and had his grand daughter threatened by some crack rat on his bus. He has no duty of respect to a random stranger, as you would have towards a partner.

He has a duty of respect to her because he's employed in a job dealing with the public. And she didn't lamp him, she slapped him.

He has a duty of respect to someone who has physically/verbally abused him?

Honestly, some of you think that having a vagina gives women carte blanche to act like cunts and never get called on it.

He has a duty not to use excessive force.

He did hit her way too hard, I agree. I just don't agree with the pious ones saying he should turn the other cheek or whatever.

What nonsense - do you think bus drivers are some kind of underlings whom people can verbally and physically attack with impunity? Just because they are providing a service? If I went into M&S and told someone at the counter they were a fucking idiot and then slapped them, I would fully expect them to punch my lights out.

All i can say is she must be tough as she got back up after that !

There's other things you can do like holding arms or wrists even in such an enclosed space, he wasn't reacting to protect himself, he got up considering what to do, did it, then said something about acting like a man and being treated like one..

He could have stopped her in some other way.
Ok had they been evenly matched in size, or sex (not that i think it's a sex issue, i've clobbered male bullies at school and men in clubs who thought they could grope me) i wouldn't be bothered.

The second link, i am fully aware that a gang of girls can be vicious.
On the face of it he did what needed to be done to make them leave him alone, only they wouldn't have, would they.. and they were videoing him.. i bet after that ended they carried on attacking him.. but i bet they stayed at arms length.

The only 2 videos i've seen with violence on youtube that i didn't have any problem with was:

A lad hitting his girlfriend then getting a pasting from a bloke who took offence to it.

A 'happy slapping' video where a guy assaulted another guy walking past who, once over the shock, went and kicked his arse.

For me personally as an adult now, violence is unacceptable unless used in self defence and not over the top response, enough for you to be able to flee an attacker ect.

But you wouldn't do that would you frisson? This young woman was clearly either off her tits or mentally disturbed.

Yes, he was righteously angry and I wouldn't have blamed him if he'd shoved her. But punching her was a massive over-reaction.

No he wasn't unreasonable.

Sick to death of heavy handed women who think it's okay to abuse and hit men because they don't expect retaliation. Its rife round here

had his grand daughter threatened by some crack rat on his bus

No, she said she'd beat his GDD after he said he'd bring her down to beat her up.

...and 'crack rat'?

Where does it say she's on crack?

It doesn't "say" anywhere. I said it, just now.

Bupcakes could see her crackpipe in her pocket usualsuspect, because she is much younger than we are

This young woman was clearly either off her tits or mentally disturbed

And you know this.. how? People on this website continually try to find excuses for bad behaviour. Some people are just complete and utter gobshites y'know. No drugs, no mental health problems.

Ah so you're just making it up then! ok.

Come on, there are literally millions of people who are just as belligerent and obnoxious as that woman who aren't off their tits or clinically "disturbed"; they're just fucking arseholes who think they can dish it out as much as they like with impunity. How many times have you thought or heard other people say "one day they'll get what's coming to them", or similar? She just got hers.

I beg to differ. I got bullied and beat up all through primary and half way through high school and the only way that I stopped those bloody gobshites was to hit them, hard. These were boys by the way. Never got bothered again. Some people need to learn to keep their hands and mouths to themselves. Whether its the hard way or not.

I do understand that view is not for everyone though and would never ever teach my (future) kids that. Be the bigger person, walk away, and all that...

people who abuse bus-drivers and hit them, should expect to be hit back.

Sorry usual, that doesn't make sense.