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To be sat open mouthed at the Idiocy of Dave Camerons latest headline grabber

755 replies

penelopestitsdropped · 05/02/2011 11:59

Multiculturalism has failed

Now whilst i believe the debate itself has merit ( though think that DC has put a rather disturbing anti islamic slant on it)
I do not think it the wisest day to do so given that there is a planned march by the English Defence League (think BNP with more hair) today

march in Luton

OP posts:
mrsgetonwithit · 06/02/2011 15:03

Y es bored I agree because you won't and can't change peoples oipinion no matter how hard you try.

gordyslovesheep · 06/02/2011 15:05

I feel your pain Ambarth - it's a strange kind of itch that keeps drawing me back - I have to go and make awful immigrant food for my kids soon (sweet and sour chicken for new year) so I will be forced to stay away thank goodness x

gordyslovesheep · 06/02/2011 15:08

just so you know it's actually difficult to claim money even as an EU immigrant - especially if you are Polish etc there are restrictions and limitations that don;t apply to Brits

dobiegirl · 06/02/2011 15:10

go away and make your curry will ya???

ambarth · 06/02/2011 15:11

Haha gordy I fancy curry.... Grin

ambarth · 06/02/2011 15:11

Maybe I'll make it halal..

gordyslovesheep · 06/02/2011 15:12

not curry [grins] although I love a curry no - chinese for new year Gung Hay Fat Choy Grin

dobiegirl · 06/02/2011 15:12

Well what other kind of way could you make it ambarth? Make sure you clean up all the blood off the patio!!!

StarlightPrincess · 06/02/2011 15:14

BUT I think you are getting yourself confused a bit Starlight - blees - you said, in response to my post about not having recource to public funds that EU immigranst could claim benefits - yet now you are saying that fine and brilliant but other people shouldn;t come here and claim ... other people can't.

Never said that.

ManateeEquineOhara · 06/02/2011 15:15

Oh god, you don't 'sponsor a family' or suchlike do you Dobie?!

And I never said 'coloured', I said you seem to have a problem with immigrants with dark skin. You do don't you? People outside of Europe generally do have darker skin that Europeans. Nothing racist in saying that. Plenty racist in being okay with European immigrants over non EU, especially when you say they are 'all liars'!!!

Why don't you let go of your paranoia and just accept people? Rest assured that your taxes are not going to immigrants when immigrants are more than covering resources they use in their own tax contributions. Therefore there are no problems!

StarlightPrincess · 06/02/2011 15:16

I said I don't think any one should come here with the sole intention of claiming benefits. Not just EU immigrants.

gordyslovesheep · 06/02/2011 15:17

you are right you didn't - apols - it was Dobie :)

ManateeEquineOhara · 06/02/2011 15:18

Previous post was to Dobie.

I doubt anyone comes here with the sole intention of claiming benefits. But what do I know, ask Dobie, she can see that they are all lying so I am sure she knows Hmm

dobiegirl · 06/02/2011 15:22

Blah, Blah, Blah. Manatee!!

Who are you to decide what is and isn't racist? And whether I fall into one of your catergories!!

Why don't I just accept people - I do, if they don't try and stuff me like a turkey LOL. I have no problems with immigrants or colour but I think them that come should integrate and not expect others to have to fit in with them - I'm sorry if you don't like that, I'm sorry if It makes you mad that I'm not this seething, foaming at the mouth raging angry monster who sees colour everywhere but I'm just a good honest English girl who loves my country and doesn't want it destroyed. I am patriotic and proud. Sorry if that threatens you - well actually no I'm not sorry - deal with it!!

There are loads of problems in this country at present, regardless of what you say.

gordyslovesheep · 06/02/2011 15:24

why does intergration ALWAYS mean BE LIKE ME - doesn;t it work both ways?

ManateeEquineOhara · 06/02/2011 15:24

Don't apologise. I just think you are clearly a bit deluded and simple to not question your very bizarre beliefs.

Quote "Them that come should integrate". Should imagine most immigrants could phrase that better!!!

StarlightPrincess · 06/02/2011 15:26

Like I said before-

Just like there are British people who are fucking lazy and don't want to work, there will be immigrants who want to do the same!

And for the record, I don't agree with the scroungers who were born here doing it either!

alemci · 06/02/2011 15:27

The OAPs in Spain usually pay their own way and buy a property. I doubt if they receive any benefits and probably have to pay for healthcare.

they do not get given a council house and deprive someone who has been on the housing list for years'.

If they want something translating, I suspect they have to pay for it.

we built an extension and paid Polish builders. we were very grateful but they were paid in cash. Do you honestly think they paid any tax on it.

It is a difficult subject and an emotive one. I know there are genuine people fleeing persecution but there are also alot of people who are economic migrants who aren't making a contribution.

dobiegirl · 06/02/2011 15:28

Some of the reasons to come here

Girls are cheap - free easy sex

Benefits are paid, not as good as countries like Sweden, Denmark, etc but less hassle to get them

you will get a house or flat quickly, however this is changing now as councils are realising that you cannot put AS to the top of the pile.

Plenty of cash in hand jobs if you require.

You can actually get paid to leave the country and then come back in again!!! [kerching££££££££] however finger printing is now knocking this crime on the head.

This is not EU immigrants just the other kind that like to come!!! From my experience!!

StarlightPrincess · 06/02/2011 15:30

It is a difficult subject and an emotive one. I know there are genuine people fleeing persecution but there are also alot of people who are economic migrants who aren't making a contribution.

Exactly.

ManateeEquineOhara · 06/02/2011 15:30

GIRLS ARE CHEAP!!! What the fuck!!!?

mrsgetonwithit · 06/02/2011 15:31

I doubt anyone comes here with the sole intention of claiming benefits.

You are joking are'nt you? That is the sole reason they come here and don't stop in Germany, France etcetc

dobiegirl · 06/02/2011 15:32

Manatee please don't pull me up on how I word things - It's my language and I will speak and write anyway I feel, it doesn't reflect on my intelligence just my individuality lol

It is not only learned scholars and authors who can play around with the English language - anyone can!!

Understand you now - please, yes!!!

ambarth · 06/02/2011 15:35

"It is not only learned scholars and authors who can play around with the English language - anyone can!"

Well you certainly are proof of that. Grin

giveitago · 06/02/2011 15:35

Get the feeling that racists and the PC promoters are cut of the same cloth.

Reminds me of that talking heads song which just goes 'blind. blind. blind, blind, blind blind, blind.'

I'm kind of with starlight. Not on the islam front (as it wasn't my experience) but certainly I get the impression that the views of people of mixed heritage are completely ignored by the white PC brigade.