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Men hanging around children's playparks

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Forcelittle · Yesterday 18:08

There seems to have been a rash of these on my local FB. Posts full of outrage (?) Fear (?) about men, usually with dark skin, loitering near play parks.

My first reaction is FGS live and let live you nasty racists, but there have been so many I'm now wondering if either they're made up, or there is something untoward. Why are men hanging around in groups by a playpark?

Or was my first guess right?

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BeautifulLittlePumpkin · Today 21:56

Minasama · Today 21:50

It’s a rare occurrence, unlike the organised nature of Pakistani gangs (operating in 149 areas according to one report.) There are more than 90 cases of child sexual
abuse being investigated in Birmingham currently, perpetrated by six gangs, all Pakistani.

Also - the authorities have no problem investigating white gangs and ensuring justice is served. No one wanted to investigate or report the Pakistani gangs which is why the problem persisted (and persists) for such a long time. Local councils and police were frightened of being seen as racist.

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You’re quite right. Infact many Pakistani gangs went undetected for so long because of fears of racism, and this thread is evident as to why it got that far.

I live in a demographically poor area. There are foreign men who hang out by the play park in the day drinking alcohol. Big groups of them sometimes. My daughter now takes the long way home from school when she walks back. Now that’s not to say I’m dismissing the “its all men” rhetoric, but I haven’t really got time for political correctness either.

AgentPidge · Today 22:00

HettyTagliatelli · Yesterday 18:44

Potential, not guaranteed. People
are supposed to be innocent until
proven guilty in this country.

Yeah, but we have to constantly make judgements about our safety and potential threats from other people if we're out on our own. It's a lot simpler if the person coming towards us or up behind us is another woman.

VioletsTale · Today 22:01

Minasama · Today 21:43

Please can you share those stats? I believe you are entirely wrong but I am happy to be corrected. I’ve never heard of organised gangs of grown white men targeting young teenage girls and sexually abusing them?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c89g293zj2ko

A composite image of the mugshots of Corey Barret, Richard Haslam and Jack Poulson.

Six men from 'depraved' Bolton grooming gang jailed

A further six men from a ten-man Bolton gang that abused under-age girls for years are sentenced.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c89g293zj2ko

VanillaImpulse · Today 22:01

Hopomythumb · Yesterday 19:32

The children’s park near Great Ormond Street hospital has a turnstile entry and states that lone men should not enter - I think it’s called Coram Fields.

I’m pretty sure Princess Diana playground in London is the same

VioletsTale · Today 22:04

BeautifulLittlePumpkin · Today 21:56

You’re quite right. Infact many Pakistani gangs went undetected for so long because of fears of racism, and this thread is evident as to why it got that far.

I live in a demographically poor area. There are foreign men who hang out by the play park in the day drinking alcohol. Big groups of them sometimes. My daughter now takes the long way home from school when she walks back. Now that’s not to say I’m dismissing the “its all men” rhetoric, but I haven’t really got time for political correctness either.

They didn’t go undetected. No one in power gave a shit about “trash” who made a “lifestyle choice” (their own words). Even worse, some policemen abused those girls themselves. Do not perpetuate the “fear of being seen as racist” myth. It lets the fuckers off the hook. They. Did. Not. Care.

LipstickOnVixens · Today 22:07

BeautifulLittlePumpkin · Today 21:56

You’re quite right. Infact many Pakistani gangs went undetected for so long because of fears of racism, and this thread is evident as to why it got that far.

I live in a demographically poor area. There are foreign men who hang out by the play park in the day drinking alcohol. Big groups of them sometimes. My daughter now takes the long way home from school when she walks back. Now that’s not to say I’m dismissing the “its all men” rhetoric, but I haven’t really got time for political correctness either.

I live in a demographically poor area. There are foreign men who hang out by the play park in the day drinking alcohol

How do you know they are "foreign"? What is their nationality?

BeautifulLittlePumpkin · Today 22:15

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BeautifulLittlePumpkin · Today 22:19

VioletsTale · Today 22:04

They didn’t go undetected. No one in power gave a shit about “trash” who made a “lifestyle choice” (their own words). Even worse, some policemen abused those girls themselves. Do not perpetuate the “fear of being seen as racist” myth. It lets the fuckers off the hook. They. Did. Not. Care.

I agree with all of your points, but many of those services were absolutely turning a blind eye due to a fear of being labelled racist. It was a multifaceted fuck up.

2dogsandabudgie · Today 22:29

Baconisawesome · Yesterday 19:01

Wow how racist and sexist can you be.??

a lone man going for a walk?? How dare he… but if he had a dog that’s ok?

There was nothing racist in that post. I walk my dogs in woods and I'm more wary of a single man walking on his own than I am of a single man walking with a dog in there.

Fiftyandnotsonifty · Today 22:34

Minasama · Yesterday 19:14

I tell my daughters to avoid groups of Pakistani-looking men, never to eg drink vodka if it’s offered and not to go with them to their flats or get in their cars.
I caveat it by saying I hate to say it because it sounds racist but with rape gangs operating in 149 areas they can’t be too careful. I’d rather I sound racist than they get hurt. They should have their guard up against all young men of course but need to be especially careful here.

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Ffs ridiculous!!! It’s men!!!

Ludijo · Today 22:46

My husband is black. He was sat on a bench in our local village park, it's a small park with a few children's play things in one area. All the benches are quite close to the play area but it's not separate to the rest of the park, it's all one area if that makes sense.
A van went past and they shouted at him "what you doing there you bla**k nonce".
What he was doing there was sitting taking a short rest eating a flapjack while out for a lengthy walk.
This is the racist Britain we now have

VioletsTale · Today 22:49

BeautifulLittlePumpkin · Today 22:19

I agree with all of your points, but many of those services were absolutely turning a blind eye due to a fear of being labelled racist. It was a multifaceted fuck up.

I’m sorry to be a dick, but the language around this matters a lot to me. I know what was said , what excuses were given . I know “we didn’t want to be seen as racist” was repeated over and over again.

But they knew. They knew the extent of it all. Councils, the police, social services. Social services had files labelling 10 year olds as prostitutes! Social worker attended an islamic wedding of a 15 yo to her abuser. Social workers ignored concerns from care homes about the girls being groomed. They told parents their 15 yo is a prostitute and she made a “lifestyle choice”. Police covered up shit, dismissed the girls, threatened the girls. They ignored taxis with young girls in them at night. They ignored missing persons reports. They warned perpetrators. They sometimes arrested the girls complaining. Some fucking raped those girls themselves!! They took money or drugs. They supplied drugs. The magnitude of it , the horrifying details of it, the blatant lack of care , none of it washes with “we didn’t want to be seen as racist”.

It was a massive cover up but not in the way they want you to think. They weren’t victims of the system. They were the fucking system!

VioletsTale · Today 22:49

BeautifulLittlePumpkin · Today 22:19

I agree with all of your points, but many of those services were absolutely turning a blind eye due to a fear of being labelled racist. It was a multifaceted fuck up.

I’m sorry to be a dick, but the language around this matters a lot to me. I know what was said , what excuses were given . I know “we didn’t want to be seen as racist” was repeated over and over again.

But they knew. They knew the extent of it all. Councils, the police, social services. Social services had files labelling 10 year olds as prostitutes! Social worker attended an islamic wedding of a 15 yo to her abuser. Social workers ignored concerns from care homes about the girls being groomed. They told parents their 15 yo is a prostitute and she made a “lifestyle choice”. Police covered up shit, dismissed the girls, threatened the girls. They ignored taxis with young girls in them at night. They ignored missing persons reports. They warned perpetrators. They sometimes arrested the girls complaining. Some fucking raped those girls themselves!! They took money or drugs. They supplied drugs. The magnitude of it , the horrifying details of it, the blatant lack of care , none of it washes with “we didn’t want to be seen as racist”.

It was a massive cover up but not in the way they want you to think. They weren’t victims of the system. They were the fucking system!

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