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sincerestwonders · Yesterday 13:43

Any one else feel like this but I dunno why my life has been just so hard lately for me and my 17 1/2 year old daughter. Last year I felt completely different, this year I feel burnt out and just bored and unmotivated. I have a guy who keeps coming in and out my life he works abroad so he isnt a stable presence but I feel stuck and dunno if any of you have similar life experience or advice as that would be so useful.
My daughter has not been to school since age 8. I chose not to keep her in school because of some of the things we encountered in her school such as staff pinning kids down in isolation rooms as a punishment and like harming "bad" kids by restraining them in the classroom, which I did not want my young daughter to see or felt was appropriate.
She has been home educated since then. At the minute she has 2 gcses, a 9 in Spanish and 8 in computing/ICT. Her maths and english skills are quite subpar to be honest. She is a good speller, yet struggles with reading long books and guessing the "intention" of authors which is what a lot of GCSE is about. Her maths is reasonable and probably key stage 3 level, not the best but GCSE math standards are so high these days. In the last year she has done a cookery course, several language courses, business administration basics and we were asked to do an art course which she bloody hates and has no artistic talent really but we are 3/5 of the way through that and she just cant think of ideas and hates it and obviously wishes she was doing something else. The obvious thing to do next is driving, but the theory test I dont quite know how to study for it seen as I havent driven since I was in my 20s cos we live in an urban area where we can bus walk everywhere. The other thing I struggle with is deciding on the gold DOFE program. She has done it for 18 months, did all sections and loved the volunteering element. Its done all bits except the Expedition, and honestly how is a weeks walking, eating garbage and carrying a 20kg bag up a mountain useful to the development of a young person? This isnt the 1940s. We originally did this with a dofe open award center. She attended 2 training days. On the first one she was assigned to a team of 5 other girls, all of whom were friends from that posh arse Hills Road college in Cambridge. They ignored and excluded my already friendless daughter and walked ahead. My daughter is 5ft 4 70kg and is not unfit, she does swimming and dance, but no way can she walk 20 miles a day like they suggested with a back breaking Army bergen. The idiots said the expedition was to take place in summer. Considering the heatwaves we have had its a recipe for sun stroke, burns and nausea. On the second day she asked whether she could have a parent see her at a particular point of the day or night as she is high anxiety and gets sick when away overnight from parents she can stay at nanas house without us but it seems being away at night without parents presence is traumatic for her. She went to mendip activity center last year and being away led to panic attacks and a drinking episode. They said no,okay, but I dont think they care about her needs. The food is another troubling element. They suggested eating those gross ration pack boil in a bag meals. My daughter wont eat them preferring fresh foods, and wouldnt eat any with meat in them due to concern of quality. She would have to handle bottle gas, flames, putting up a tent, no contact even a mobile phone with parents, possible injury, carrying own excrement, managing herself miles from anywhere at 17 YEARS OLD what is this SAS basic training? We had her walk 10ks every week, every time her feet would begin to blister and bleed she has size 3 feet for context with the bag on so I decided to leave that centre and look at these expensive private expeditions on canoes but she wont do that either. This has led to a lot of arguments with me and her dad who the dad says stop pushing and she has done enough already. The final issue is she obviously doesnt want to go to uni next year but she just cant think of what job/career to do and seems to have lost interest in anything. Sorry to rant but any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

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OsfameronTanamoril · Yesterday 16:51

sincerestwonders · Yesterday 16:47

Because I didnt want my 7 and 8 year old child exposed to violence and abuse in a primary school

And you think she is better off now?
You could have reported the violence.
Found another school.
Done anything but forced your DD to live like a hermit and gone on about her ' anxiety'. She's anxious because she's a recluse.

AlgaeDreams · Yesterday 16:52

Why has it taken you 9 years to post?

Why not gain knowledge and link up with other home teaching parents?

Age 8 isn't classed as early puberty any more. 8 is the lower end of average.

My daughter was 7 when she had her first period.

Oh, and she's exactly the same age as your daughter, doing 3 Alevels and Uni applications.

I don't believe you.

The end of Primary, Y6 was affected for their age as was the start of secondary. No mention.

Annoyedbyhusband · Yesterday 16:52

I would say she is nearly 18 and should be now entering the adult world making her own choices, the Duke of Edinburgh isn’t necessary, just don’t do it.
she probably just needs a job at this point and can go back to education later in life when she’s figured out what she wants to do. Some people aren’t academic and don’t get GCSEs, ok that’s fine as there’s plenty of vocational jobs where you learn on the job. She needs a job, doing anything at first then figure it out from there there.

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sincerestwonders · Yesterday 16:55

Chunkybabythighs

.Taught her to read and write the latter of which took about 5 years
.Taught her to about a year 8/9 level of maths
.Taught her Spanish from scratch
.Let her experiment with different hobbies
.Given her a safe environment to go through puberty
.Tried getting help for her anxiety and speechtherapy

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WishIStudiedScience · Yesterday 16:55

sincerestwonders · Yesterday 16:47

Because I didnt want my 7 and 8 year old child exposed to violence and abuse in a primary school

So move schools ffs, not completely isolate her from society and destroy her chances.

I think you should be prosecuted for neglect. Shame on you.

TreeDudette · Yesterday 16:56

Have you looked into local vocational college courses. They start at Foundational which sometimes don't require any qualifications, then Level 1 which generally require a few GCSEs, Level 2 and finally Level 3. There are a whole host of subjects that are more aimed at future employment. She can do this now although possibly getting her Functional Skills English and Maths would help. I'd be targetting getting those sorted and have her start on a Level 2 or Level 3 course next September.

RonaldDahl · Yesterday 16:56

This is such a sad read. Please get your daughter into some kind of college to do her English and Maths GCSEs. It will help her massively with future job prospects and with social skills. Volunteering in her spare time or working part time would also be beneficial. But please let her live a normal life and stop holding her back because of your own issues and anxieties.

sincerestwonders · Yesterday 16:57

You dont have to go to Uni. Its a choice, albeit theres lots of pressure on 17/18yos from society. She doesnt show a particular interest, and yes an apprenticeship or low level job is the most likely choice at 18.

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theneighbourgotmycake · Yesterday 16:57

sincerestwonders · Yesterday 16:47

Because I didnt want my 7 and 8 year old child exposed to violence and abuse in a primary school

you have started threads before, haven't you.
And the replies have always been the same.

Please DO read them. You can't go back, but keeping that young woman shut from the real world is going to ruin her life.

You need to start getting help for your anxiety. Primary school is fine. Your mind made up some horror stories, and you're still doing that today. Get help, start with your GP

It's pointless starting the same threads over and over, the replies will be the same.

dancehysterical22 · Yesterday 16:59

Sounds exactly like my ex’s mum. Now he’s 35 years of age, never had a job, no qualifications and as far as I know, no friends.

sincerestwonders · Yesterday 17:00

She has
Grade 9 Spanish Gcse (2026)
Grade 8 ICT gcse (2026)
150hr Data entry diploma(2025)
Dofe gold 4 out of 5 parts
18 months volunteering twice a week

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rainbowsnack · Yesterday 17:00

sincerestwonders · Yesterday 13:43

Any one else feel like this but I dunno why my life has been just so hard lately for me and my 17 1/2 year old daughter. Last year I felt completely different, this year I feel burnt out and just bored and unmotivated. I have a guy who keeps coming in and out my life he works abroad so he isnt a stable presence but I feel stuck and dunno if any of you have similar life experience or advice as that would be so useful.
My daughter has not been to school since age 8. I chose not to keep her in school because of some of the things we encountered in her school such as staff pinning kids down in isolation rooms as a punishment and like harming "bad" kids by restraining them in the classroom, which I did not want my young daughter to see or felt was appropriate.
She has been home educated since then. At the minute she has 2 gcses, a 9 in Spanish and 8 in computing/ICT. Her maths and english skills are quite subpar to be honest. She is a good speller, yet struggles with reading long books and guessing the "intention" of authors which is what a lot of GCSE is about. Her maths is reasonable and probably key stage 3 level, not the best but GCSE math standards are so high these days. In the last year she has done a cookery course, several language courses, business administration basics and we were asked to do an art course which she bloody hates and has no artistic talent really but we are 3/5 of the way through that and she just cant think of ideas and hates it and obviously wishes she was doing something else. The obvious thing to do next is driving, but the theory test I dont quite know how to study for it seen as I havent driven since I was in my 20s cos we live in an urban area where we can bus walk everywhere. The other thing I struggle with is deciding on the gold DOFE program. She has done it for 18 months, did all sections and loved the volunteering element. Its done all bits except the Expedition, and honestly how is a weeks walking, eating garbage and carrying a 20kg bag up a mountain useful to the development of a young person? This isnt the 1940s. We originally did this with a dofe open award center. She attended 2 training days. On the first one she was assigned to a team of 5 other girls, all of whom were friends from that posh arse Hills Road college in Cambridge. They ignored and excluded my already friendless daughter and walked ahead. My daughter is 5ft 4 70kg and is not unfit, she does swimming and dance, but no way can she walk 20 miles a day like they suggested with a back breaking Army bergen. The idiots said the expedition was to take place in summer. Considering the heatwaves we have had its a recipe for sun stroke, burns and nausea. On the second day she asked whether she could have a parent see her at a particular point of the day or night as she is high anxiety and gets sick when away overnight from parents she can stay at nanas house without us but it seems being away at night without parents presence is traumatic for her. She went to mendip activity center last year and being away led to panic attacks and a drinking episode. They said no,okay, but I dont think they care about her needs. The food is another troubling element. They suggested eating those gross ration pack boil in a bag meals. My daughter wont eat them preferring fresh foods, and wouldnt eat any with meat in them due to concern of quality. She would have to handle bottle gas, flames, putting up a tent, no contact even a mobile phone with parents, possible injury, carrying own excrement, managing herself miles from anywhere at 17 YEARS OLD what is this SAS basic training? We had her walk 10ks every week, every time her feet would begin to blister and bleed she has size 3 feet for context with the bag on so I decided to leave that centre and look at these expensive private expeditions on canoes but she wont do that either. This has led to a lot of arguments with me and her dad who the dad says stop pushing and she has done enough already. The final issue is she obviously doesnt want to go to uni next year but she just cant think of what job/career to do and seems to have lost interest in anything. Sorry to rant but any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

A foundation skills college course may be worth a shout. They often offer functional skills English/Maths instead of GCSEs and will be better able to determine her educational needs; if possible, she may need an EHCP for extra support due to her anxiety.

AnneLovesGilbert · Yesterday 17:01

Is your other child at school?

Chunkybabythighs · Yesterday 17:01

sincerestwonders · Yesterday 16:55

Chunkybabythighs

.Taught her to read and write the latter of which took about 5 years
.Taught her to about a year 8/9 level of maths
.Taught her Spanish from scratch
.Let her experiment with different hobbies
.Given her a safe environment to go through puberty
.Tried getting help for her anxiety and speechtherapy

So your 7 year old couldn't read or write and it took until she was 12 until she could write and this didn't flag up at all as unusual to you?

Naurrr · Yesterday 17:02

sincerestwonders · Yesterday 17:00

She has
Grade 9 Spanish Gcse (2026)
Grade 8 ICT gcse (2026)
150hr Data entry diploma(2025)
Dofe gold 4 out of 5 parts
18 months volunteering twice a week

Not sure who you're replying to, but has she seen job adverts for paid work that do not require GCSE maths and English?

BoredZelda · Yesterday 17:05

I have no views on your choice to home educate, other than to agree school isn’t for everyone. I agree entirely about DofE. My daughter is disabled and would do brilliantly at all of it, except she physically can’t do the hike, and she doesn’t need it for “resilience” (bullshit word used only to beat disadvantaged kids). They talk a big game on their website about how they can make it accessible, as if an all terrain wheelchair is the answer, but the reality is, they are too short sighted to realise that the world doesn’t need kids who have hiked and slept rough, it needs kids who value community. I’d sack it off as it is absolutely meaningless.

sincerestwonders · Yesterday 17:05

She had an interest in spanish and ict. It was the easiest way to do her first ever exam. Im so happy she did them you dont know how hard it is getting her into the exam hall to do this

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JessicaBrassica · Yesterday 17:05

Most of the home ed kids I know considered college in y12 with their peers.
I't doesn't have to be an academic college like Hills Road. Cambridge seems to split FE into academic and vocational. CRC would be more appropriate for someone with no formal education. Is there a reason why you're considering college part way through y13? They do offer vocational courses although they seem to expect at least a couple of GCSEs.
Maybe it's worth looking at the prospectus with her and seeing if any courses/subjects interest her and then she has a clearer idea of what she might need to study before starting in September.
It's a shame DfE didn't work out for her. I think many of us who did it loved the freedom and opportunity to be self reliant. She may find she can do the expedition with college once she's there and has made some friends.

babyproblems · Yesterday 17:06

I think your daughter should have just changed school. I don’t think the home education you have provided has been enough. I think she would benefit hugely from a structured educational setting and a place where she can make friends…

OsfameronTanamoril · Yesterday 17:06

And when your DD couldn't read or write until she was 12, you didn't think " Maybe I am not really qualified to home educate" or " maybe my dd has SN" or " maybe I need support from other home educators?" No alarm bells at all? Words fail me.

What does her dad think? Is he involved at all?

sincerestwonders · Yesterday 17:07

If she goes to college it would be next september as my home ed always went from january to january. Dunno if at 18 it would be worth it. I can try and get her into Peterborough for maths and maybe english but first need to work on her social skills and her emotions

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XelaM · Yesterday 17:08

This thread can't be real. How can you say she doesn't have SEN when she couldn't read and write until 12?!?

givemesteel · Yesterday 17:10

This thread proves why home education should be banned or at least monitored with bi weekly tests. The minute they fail they should go back into school.

You don't seem to realise how behind she is. She could catch up if she went to college and enrolled on some foundation courses, but those years of her childhood are gone.

Do her a favour and get her enrolled somewhere ASAP.

DoloresDelEriba · Yesterday 17:10

sincerestwonders · Yesterday 13:56

She doesnt have SEN but has high anxiety and her development is maybe 2 years or so behind peers she was a highly anxious child but it isnt her or my fault

Nice avoidance there - no one was accusing you of anything.

But she sounds really isolated. College seems like a good idea for some more qualifications or a vocational course. Does she have a job, friends?

sincerestwonders · Yesterday 17:11

#givemesteel

You should have seen that school. A "normal" school where they treat kids like animals. The government need to DBS check all school staff and highly regulate methods of punishment of children.

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