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JustAnotherWhinger · Today 12:07

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because most people have the savvy to know that a) she’s going through hell atm and b) the family will mostly likely be following police guidance on press statements and the likes

FiveMetresUp · Today 12:07

When my eldest DS was born I was suffering from awful OCD. It was all centred around him and the fear that he would be taken. If he went behind a tree and I couldn’t see him, I’d panic. My family used to tell me that I was mentally ill, which I was. I never let him out of my sight.

Even so, at a local fair he ran out of the tent we were standing in. He ran around to the side. I was literally 1-2 seconds behind him but when I got there, he was gone.

We found him about 10 minutes later. It happens. I was the most protective parent imaginable (not bragging, I was mentally ill), but it happened to us.

AustenitesUnite · Today 12:07

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Oh, so now the poor grandfather is not only elderly and lacking in agility, but he's now obese?

As you seem to be using psychic powers to share information which isn't in the public domain, why don't you put your powers to better use? We would all love to know where little Noah is . . . .

UnitaBath · Today 12:07

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Maybe she is absolutely distraught and besides herself, just perhaps??

What is wrong with you, stop posting such shite!

JustAnotherWhinger · Today 12:07

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Where do you buy your magic shoes that make you immune from ever tripping over?

lilacpetals · Today 12:07

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ThatLoudCat · Today 12:07

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In what way would that help? Everyone is already looking. She's probably in bits.

DailyEnergyCrisis · Today 12:08

I know people love the “it’d never happen to me as I do things better” superiority but for the rest of us normal, fallible humans we’re just focussed on the child and the heartbreak for the family.
Perhaps you are far better parents and people than the rest of us, I have definitely momentarily lost sight of both of my kids in public over the years. But do you think the most important thing you can say at the moment is “I’m better, it’d never happen to me”- what do you think might be achieved from that insight?

wandererofthekingdom · Today 12:09

LabubuTERF · Today 11:54

Can we leave the “who’s responsible?!?” posts and conspiracy theories until after Noah is found? They offer nothing to the discussion and search at this vital stage.

I’m not sure how you expected the discussion to go when you started this thread, this is a discussion forum and people will discuss these things. The posters of mumsnet can’t join the search it help in any practical way. A thread invites speculation.

lilacpetals · Today 12:09

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Flibberdigibbit · Today 12:09

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Life will teach you otherwise. You only have the illusion of control. Long may it keep you comforted.

dustabsorber · Today 12:10

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How do we know his elderly? A grandparent of a 3-year-old could easily be only 50. I did a 4-hour marathon at 50.

Nicknacky · Today 12:10

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So your kids go down the slides and on the swings with reins on?

Phelicity · Today 12:11

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You’re all heart Lilacpetals.

Fairyyqueen · Today 12:11

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Do you know that the person caring for this boy took their eyes off him (before falling over)? I don’t think that’s been said anywhere. All I have seen is that the boy ran off, grandad went to run after him but fell over (of course when you fall over you naturally won’t have eyes on the child because your eyes will be on the ground, even you!)

Wilsonthedog · Today 12:11

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Genuine question. How does a child play on a park when tied to their parent? How does that work with swings, roundabouts, etc.?

GoodGirlFaith · Today 12:11

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Is the relative elderly? The father looks quite young so I wouldn't have thought so. How do we know how agile this man is?

My dc are young adults now and I don't know anyone who hasn't lost sight of their children for a short time, or perhaps a longer time.

One of my own dc was lost for close to an hour on one occasion. Fortunately, I did not know about this until after the event when he had been found. He was with 2 close relatives and we are a nice, normal family who love our children.

We all know that we really cannot take our eyes off young children for a second but we are also human beings. I doubt anyone would have given this situation (a grandfather taking his child to the local park) a second thought had this not happened.

Also, I believe the young boys grandfather had fallen over and could not reach the boy quickly enough.

I doubt very much that you would tell a friend they had been 'neglectful' under these circumstances. But, you are behind a screen, don't know these people and your words are insensitive and the fact that you have written them is cowardly.

I pray they find little Noah alive and well today.

GiveOverRover · Today 12:12

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Pride comes before a fall, good luck with that. I hope life is as kind to you as you seem to think you've earned it to be. Sometimes things happen, and it's nobody's fault. They just happen due to circumstance. To believe that you can control this at all times, with a wrist strap of destiny, requires a massively inflated ego.

lilacpetals · Today 12:12

Nicknacky · Today 12:10

So your kids go down the slides and on the swings with reins on?

They weren't at the park going down slides were they?, they were leaving. The park has a heavy gate and fence around to stop kids escaping. Once they started leaving is when he ran off.

Notonthestairs · Today 12:13

wandererofthekingdom · Today 12:09

I’m not sure how you expected the discussion to go when you started this thread, this is a discussion forum and people will discuss these things. The posters of mumsnet can’t join the search it help in any practical way. A thread invites speculation.

You can discuss it without apportioning blame.

Frankly if you weren't there and/or are not part of the family it isn't your place to place judgement.

JuneJuneHannah · Today 12:13

Flibberdigibbit · Today 12:05

My theory on why people come up with such awful judgement in the face of tragedies like this is they want to convince themselves this could never happen to them. Unfortunately accidents happen and none of us are immune to them.

Absolutely. It’s the same as when a child is sadly left in a hot vehicle by a parent or grandparent. It would NEVER happen to them because they love their child sooo much more than anyone else and they’re soooo much more careful than anyone else. They can’t comprehend that it’s not about that.

lilacpetals · Today 12:14

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JustAnotherWhinger · Today 12:14

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Where do you buy your magic shoes that protect you from ever tripping?

Blackwidowsbite · Today 12:14

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lilacpetals · Today 12:14

JustAnotherWhinger · Today 12:14

Where do you buy your magic shoes that protect you from ever tripping?

Usually, when I fall over I get back up straight away?