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Wild expectations of grandparents

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Morningtee · 05/09/2026 09:30

Just reading an article from the I paper called ‘the do’s and don’ts of grand parenting as children go back to school’ I’m sure the article was written with well meaning intent but as a Gen X I’m just increasingly shocked at some of today’s young parents expectations of grandparent role. Even a paid childminder wouldn’t put up with some of the advice in the article. I had a great relationship with my grandparents but they didn’t play the role that seems to be expected of modern grandparents which seems more about serving the needs of entitled millennial/Gen Z parents than the grandchildren. Indeed a number are quite happy to destroy the entire relationship between grandchild and grandparent if their wild expectations are not met

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Morningtee · 05/09/2026 15:21

Slightyamusedandsilly · 05/09/2026 10:59

It isn't just that. It's changing social expectations. In addition to the scarcity of childcare and the sheer expense of it.

When I was a child, it was quite normal to be a latchkey kid from 9/10. These days it's unacceptable to allow a child alone at home at that age. Rightly so. I did some really stupid stuff and I'm lucky I didn't cause myself major harm!

We demand that parents both work full-time but there isn't full-time childcare available without eye watering costs involved.

I don’t think we do demand both parents work full time, more the case both parents are needed to work full time to pay for all the things we’re told our kids need these days, holidays, £15 baby swim, us to pay for their driving lessons, contribute towards uni etc. We work and pay for our own childcare, the government 30 hours funding and TFC helps massively and we’re left over with enough for things like swimming lessons for our older children and one short UK holiday a year but we’re happy

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Morningtee · 05/09/2026 15:25

PinkFrogss · 05/09/2026 11:53

I don’t think I’d call those expectations wild. Some of it reads like journalistic waffle trying to hit a word count. But no one’s cutting off grandparents because they didn’t ask about school uniform.

Most of it sounds fairly sensible. It also mentions maintaining boundaries, changing your mind if you need to, not being a perfect grandparent.

If the article had said doing childcare should become your top priority, you should give up your job and be available 24/7 for any of your child’s whims and fully takeover the housework then yes that would be wild.

It just comes across like an article you would expect to see in a nannying magazine aimed at someone marketing themselves for a service they will be charging parents a lot of money for, not a put upon grandparent who is already doing their DC a huge favour

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Morningtee · 05/09/2026 15:30

NeitherOfThemEither · 05/09/2026 11:17

I’d just be grateful if my children’s grandmother didn’t invite us over and then once we had left moan on social
media about how exhausting she finds our visits. Obviously shes allowed to feel tired out by young children (and they are very well behaved and loving towwrds her but it’s less peaceful than a child free house of course) but it makes me feel sad for my children that that’s what she puts out there publicly about her experience with them. She could just say nothing, or only moan to friends in person. And no, I’m not going to cut her off for this.

Maybe ask her if would be easier if met at the park, if you can bring dinner round when she’s hosting etc? Some people do just like to moan about anything but I do get its frustrating when the kids have been in their best behaviour and also not nice for you as makes it look like you just let your kids run ferrel at hers

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Morningtee · 05/09/2026 15:34

Mountainlover26 · 05/09/2026 12:02

We’ve always seen our parents for fun and zero childcare responsibilities (neither live close enough to have done childcare through the younger years). Im very happy with it that way. We do days out, meals out, walks, all the fun stuff and they get no stress, can holiday when they want and no additional responsibilities in their 70’s. Our kids adore them still in teenage years now, always love visiting. Both sets of grandparents raised us without help (again didnt live close enough). We used holiday clubs from 2, never had any issues going in school or holiday club because its what they have always known.

When my kids were at primary, I happened to bump into a friend on the school run with her parents (unusual as they shared the school runs between them anyway). She didn’t want to move her car from a good parking spot near her house so got the grandparents to drive her to school. Its just not within our thinking that you wouldn’t just walk abit further from your house if that spot had gone by the time you got home. She’s not wrong for asking and they are not wrong for helping, it just always stuck with me the big difference between those who never have help and those who do. It makes you wonder just how much some grandparents do for working parents that goes unseen, stuff that we have to fit around the work day/day off (housework, laundry, admin, shopping etc).

I think the most important thing is the grandparents should never be put under pressure. They’ve raised kids and health can change in a second (especially over 60). No grandparent should be doing anything they dont happily want to do. Even now (hopefully at least a decade before we have grandkids, perhaps two decades!), we know we dont want to be tied into childcare. We want it to be fun and make all the memories, but we also want freedom in our retirement. If our kids live close (and decide to have kids), we’ll have an honest conversation at that time.

Love this! ❤️ I think this is the sort of attitude my adult DD would have and it makes me want to help her out all the more if she ever does have children

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wizzywig · 05/09/2026 15:36

bababamama · 05/09/2026 10:43

I was 3, 1976, when we got a second hand twin tub, no proper washing machine until 1981 and I remember buying it with dad. Remember most mums were at home but money was so tight, no meals out, not even coffee, take squash and a picnic, perhaps a flask on day trips, jumble sales, hand me downs… different times

Slightly off topic but I can literally still taste picnic squash. Never tasted the same as at home in a glass.

Morningtee · 05/09/2026 15:36

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Yes one does but they live quite far away and we’re quite maxed out as it is at the moment but would be happy to do pick ups once or twice a week if they lived locally

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PinkFrogss · 05/09/2026 15:40

Morningtee · 05/09/2026 15:21

I don’t think we do demand both parents work full time, more the case both parents are needed to work full time to pay for all the things we’re told our kids need these days, holidays, £15 baby swim, us to pay for their driving lessons, contribute towards uni etc. We work and pay for our own childcare, the government 30 hours funding and TFC helps massively and we’re left over with enough for things like swimming lessons for our older children and one short UK holiday a year but we’re happy

Massively depends on where you live due to housing costs. Unless you live somewhere very cheap or had a massive deposit generally a lot of income is going towards living costs for most people. Part time jobs aren’t always easy to come by, and still require childcare.

You and your DH/P are older so potentially more established in your careers so possibly higher earners. You also possibly bought your house at a lower cost so have a small mortgage. Obviously presumptions but to have multiple children so far apart I am guessing you are relatively financially secure.

Morningtee · 05/09/2026 15:42

Strawberrycheesecake7 · 05/09/2026 11:20

My sister and I were at my grandparents house most days growing up because my parents both worked. On top of that they also took us for days out at the weekend sometimes and had us overnight just because they enjoyed spending time with us and wanted to give our parents a break. I have never asked for or expected regular childcare from my parents, but I did think they would want to look after my children occasionally (maybe once a month at the very most), to spend time with them and let my husband and I have a break and spend time together. I only thought this because of the relationship I had with my grandparents growing up and the expectations that my parents had of them. My parents have never looked after my children except for one night when I was giving birth to the second one. My husband and I haven’t spent any time just the two of us since our first child was born. My mum has watched me struggle with two very young children (one with additional needs) being at home all the time during the summer holidays and not offered to help at all. Yet she wants to be there for my son’s first day of school so she can post pictures of him on social media without my permission and appear involved in his life (she’s done this before). Maybe it is wrong of me to think my parents should help, and I would never “punish” them by stopping them from seeing the children. But it’s hard not to feel a bit resentful sometimes when my husband and I are struggling with two young children and we never get a break at all whereas I know my grandparents made sure my parents had plenty of support.

I do feel for you not getting a break, is there no commercial childcare you can use, we don’t have much money at all but paid for 4 hours childcare a week for me just to get on top of the housework over the holidays and when DH isn’t working we try and give each other a break. We may get the odd half hour in front of the tv together late in the evening if we’re very lucky!!

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Morningtee · 05/09/2026 15:44

PinkFrogss · 05/09/2026 15:40

Massively depends on where you live due to housing costs. Unless you live somewhere very cheap or had a massive deposit generally a lot of income is going towards living costs for most people. Part time jobs aren’t always easy to come by, and still require childcare.

You and your DH/P are older so potentially more established in your careers so possibly higher earners. You also possibly bought your house at a lower cost so have a small mortgage. Obviously presumptions but to have multiple children so far apart I am guessing you are relatively financially secure.

No, our mortgage is huge as we only bought a few years ago with a 5% deposit, I had my older DC quite young so was quite late establishing my career and a single parent for many years so wasn’t t in a position to buy a house and DH didn’t have a house either when we met

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NeitherOfThemEither · 05/09/2026 15:45

Morningtee · 05/09/2026 15:30

Maybe ask her if would be easier if met at the park, if you can bring dinner round when she’s hosting etc? Some people do just like to moan about anything but I do get its frustrating when the kids have been in their best behaviour and also not nice for you as makes it look like you just let your kids run ferrel at hers

We do bring food, and clear up etc. she doesn’t want to go to the park, those activities are even more tiring for her, she wants to be in her own home. This is what I mean about having access to expression of feelings that we wouldn’t have had in the past. I’m sure that grandparents have felt like this since time
immemorial

ByTipsyShark · 05/09/2026 15:45

PinkFrogss · 05/09/2026 15:40

Massively depends on where you live due to housing costs. Unless you live somewhere very cheap or had a massive deposit generally a lot of income is going towards living costs for most people. Part time jobs aren’t always easy to come by, and still require childcare.

You and your DH/P are older so potentially more established in your careers so possibly higher earners. You also possibly bought your house at a lower cost so have a small mortgage. Obviously presumptions but to have multiple children so far apart I am guessing you are relatively financially secure.

Agree, one of our salaries pretty much covers the mortgage only. We rented until mid-thirties, saving along the way for a deposit. A small 3 bed in our area means we have a mortgage until we’re 71.

I disagree with OP - society massively expects 2 parents to work currently.

Comeonbabylightmyaga · 05/09/2026 15:47

I’m as involved as I can be considering that I work full time but I love it. I would love to help more than I do.
They are here most weekends (not this one) as dd works.
I use annual leave to help when I can to cover holidays.
Dd is very grateful and lovely. She’s a great mum and works hard to provide for them.

We used to go to my dgp for a week in the summer. They lived a few hours away. I loved them. They meant stability and being safe which we didn’t have at home.

I feel lucky to have such close relationships with my dgc.

Morningtee · 05/09/2026 15:49

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Yes I was but not my DC, my parents helped a bit but to be honest there was quite a lot of stigma in those days to having a baby young and then expecting your parents to help so I didn’t really want to be that stereotype so didn’t ask for help. My adult DC had children with their partner so had each other so much easier for them plus all the other help parents receive now that wasn’t around when I had mine, however I would still be happy to help more if they were local

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PinkFrogss · 05/09/2026 15:51

Do you work?

NeitherOfThemEither · 05/09/2026 15:53

It is so curious to hear “parents these days are so entitled” from grandparents who are not actually being asked to do anything by their children (which is what we get from one of our parents). It’s like they will only pay attention to social media and clickbait journalism rather than the evidence of their own child’s behaviour. And of course, no one is going NC over this.

Morningtee · 05/09/2026 15:55

NeitherOfThemEither · 05/09/2026 15:45

We do bring food, and clear up etc. she doesn’t want to go to the park, those activities are even more tiring for her, she wants to be in her own home. This is what I mean about having access to expression of feelings that we wouldn’t have had in the past. I’m sure that grandparents have felt like this since time
immemorial

It does seem a bit unfair, that would annoy me too if GP was posting so negatively on social media, would she come and visit you instead?

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Morningtee · 05/09/2026 15:56

PinkFrogss · 05/09/2026 15:51

Do you work?

Yes 3 days a week, DH full time

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I was a grandparent before I hit 40. Yes I was a young teenage mother but there was a huge spike in teenage pregnancies back in the nineties so it’s very possible that it’s more common than you think.

Morningtee · 05/09/2026 16:01

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No I was in my late teens and they were in their early 20s, they didn’t really need help to be honest and live too far away for me to be practically able to offer much help anyway. However even my other DC who probably won’t have children until their 30s I can imagine, I’d definitely want to help if helped to maintain their careers as seen how incredibly hard they’ve worked towards them

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