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Expectations of an 'English breakfast' abroad

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mysparkleismissing · 18/08/2026 14:16

Hubbie had an English breakfast in France yesterday and was grumpy that the sausages and bacon weren't what you'd get at home

Would you expect what you'd get at home?

Or allow poetic licence given the frankfurter type sausages are what they see as a sausage

OP posts:
IAmNotMyJobTitle · 20/08/2026 09:56

Why not have the breakfast of the country you’re in?

AlicePottery · 20/08/2026 09:58

Bulbsbulbsbulbs · 18/08/2026 15:15

Well they don't eat a full English that's for sure. Are all the boulangeries just for tourists then?

I've stayed in very non touristy France and people - French people- queue up for croissants and baguettes in the morning.

It was in response to this

Weeellokthen · 20/08/2026 09:58

GarlicAnywhere · 19/08/2026 03:59

The cuts, cures and sausage recipes are very different from country to country.

You'd only get an actual English breakfast if your hosts butchered their own pigs and cured their bacon the English way, or had the pork products imported from the UK.

They should not be advertising it as an English breakfast then
False advertising 😂

DannyOD · 20/08/2026 10:03

topcat2014 · 18/08/2026 14:23

Did he spill ketchup on his football top

Ugh 🙄

GarlicAnywhere · 20/08/2026 10:08

Weeellokthen · 20/08/2026 09:58

They should not be advertising it as an English breakfast then
False advertising 😂

Fair point! They should advertise petit déjeuner à l'anglais, like we have 'continental' breakfast and French toast 😂

KindlySurfiingPlatypus · 20/08/2026 10:10

In any country other than the UK, I would expect that if it contains an egg and some bacon then it's basically "english style" no matter what else they may or may not include or whether the cooking style is similar to what it is at home. But what a weird thing to do to order an "english style" breakfast when abroad, unless as a one-off to see what it is like and be interested in the differences. When in France, I breakfast like the French. When in Germany, I breakfast like the Germans. I did have a little trouble in Italy as my research showed that really the typical Italian breakfast is a cigarette and a black coffee, but found some breakfasty sort of pastries anyway

Ginmonkeyagain · 20/08/2026 10:15

In my experience Italians love a bit of breakfast cake.

Elbowpatch · 20/08/2026 11:09

IAmNotMyJobTitle · 20/08/2026 09:56

Why not have the breakfast of the country you’re in?

Would you want to eat a full cooked breakfast every day if you were spending a fortnight in England?

bitontheobtuse · 20/08/2026 12:09

I've had some truly mediocre fry-ups in England.

Aluna · 20/08/2026 12:15

Elbowpatch · 20/08/2026 11:09

Would you want to eat a full cooked breakfast every day if you were spending a fortnight in England?

There’s more to English breakfast than a “full English”.

But if a full English was important to me I’d go to Torquay not Nice.

usernamealreadytaken · 20/08/2026 12:56

SausageRoll2020 · 18/08/2026 14:21

Seriously, you're in the country with literally the world's best breakfast pastries and your husband is whinging about a full English???

In general a food will be at its best in its home country, eg a croissant in france will be superior to an English one. I'd also expect the type of person who orders a full English when in France not to be the kind of person who is particularly fussy about high quality ingredients.

I want to add "no offense to your husband" but I am kind of judging him here 🫣

I love a croissant, but sometimes I really don't want sweet stuff for breakfast.

GasPanic · 20/08/2026 13:09

Offerings in other countries can vary compared with what we get here. AFAIK there is no worldwide standard for "English Breakfast". Maybe something that the French would in no way consider ordering or eating would qualify ?

I remember asking for scrambled egg on toast in China. There often "toast" is a piece of bread that has been waved over a flame for 2 seconds, rather than an actual piece of bread that has been browned through burning.

In fact one of the funniest things about travelling to weird places was always what offerings we were served up with and comparing them to what was "standard british" and mildly taking the piss (with each other of course not the locals who were doing their best/prepping things according to local customs).

I think the important thing is to have low expectations, understand that what you order isn't going to necessarily correspond to what you get at home, and that our efforts to replicate their food are probably just as bad, if not worse. I've had whole groups of guests from foreign countries refuse to eat our UK efforts at their food because it was so bad. UK-Chinese food for example is not much like Chinese-Chinese food.

olivepicanto · 20/08/2026 13:51

IcePrincesss · 18/08/2026 15:59

“Hubbie” - ick.
Grumpy - ick.
Expecting a Richmond sausage in France - ick.

Just totally embarrassing. No wonder we get a dire reputation across Europe.

👏👏

tartyflette · 20/08/2026 16:54

Have to say I’ve eaten a ‘full Irish’ and even a ‘full Ulster’ breakfast before now which were lovely and included both black and white puddings. And fried potatoes…

AlwaysExtraHot · 20/08/2026 17:54

I wouldn't order a full English breakfast overseas.
But people saying basically 'have some pastries instead' – that doesn't work for me either. There's not enough ballast/nutrition in pastries. They're nice as 'pudding' but I need some fat and protein first.
I've had riad breakfasts in Morocco where I've desperately eaten huge chunks of butter in an attempt to get some protein or fat; IME the breakfasts there are about five different kinds of bread/doughnut type things and some jam!

riceuten · 20/08/2026 18:38

GarlicAnywhere · 20/08/2026 10:08

Fair point! They should advertise petit déjeuner à l'anglais, like we have 'continental' breakfast and French toast 😂

In French an ‘English departure’ is when you leave a party without saying goodbye to anyone. And ‘the English illness/affliction’ is to be fond of masochism

riceuten · 20/08/2026 18:41

GasPanic · 20/08/2026 13:09

Offerings in other countries can vary compared with what we get here. AFAIK there is no worldwide standard for "English Breakfast". Maybe something that the French would in no way consider ordering or eating would qualify ?

I remember asking for scrambled egg on toast in China. There often "toast" is a piece of bread that has been waved over a flame for 2 seconds, rather than an actual piece of bread that has been browned through burning.

In fact one of the funniest things about travelling to weird places was always what offerings we were served up with and comparing them to what was "standard british" and mildly taking the piss (with each other of course not the locals who were doing their best/prepping things according to local customs).

I think the important thing is to have low expectations, understand that what you order isn't going to necessarily correspond to what you get at home, and that our efforts to replicate their food are probably just as bad, if not worse. I've had whole groups of guests from foreign countries refuse to eat our UK efforts at their food because it was so bad. UK-Chinese food for example is not much like Chinese-Chinese food.

Depends where you go - Chinatown in most cities is pretty close. GERMAN Chinese food bears no real resemblance to Chinese at all - too much MSG, and what they do cook inevitably has a strong Vietnamese influence. Like and Indian food from Bangladesh.

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 20/08/2026 19:04

riceuten · 20/08/2026 18:38

In French an ‘English departure’ is when you leave a party without saying goodbye to anyone. And ‘the English illness/affliction’ is to be fond of masochism

I knew “filer à l’anglaise”, but thought "la maladie anglaise" was syphilis Grin

nevernotmaybe · 20/08/2026 19:06

riceuten · 20/08/2026 18:38

In French an ‘English departure’ is when you leave a party without saying goodbye to anyone. And ‘the English illness/affliction’ is to be fond of masochism

Yes, but that just shows who the French truly are, not a reflection of anything real about the English.

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 20/08/2026 19:09

nevernotmaybe · 20/08/2026 19:06

Yes, but that just shows who the French truly are, not a reflection of anything real about the English.

To be fair, "to take French leave" is the same as "filer à l’anglaise". Just like “the French disease” is syphilis. So there’s that.

Aluna · 20/08/2026 23:11

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 20/08/2026 19:04

I knew “filer à l’anglaise”, but thought "la maladie anglaise" was syphilis Grin

Edited

S&M = “Le vice anglais”

Aluna · 20/08/2026 23:14

You see the same pattern in English with “Dutch courage”, “going Dutch” “double Dutch” which date back to the wars with the Dutch in 17th & 18th c.

Illegally18 · 21/08/2026 00:05

riceuten · 20/08/2026 18:38

In French an ‘English departure’ is when you leave a party without saying goodbye to anyone. And ‘the English illness/affliction’ is to be fond of masochism

' to take French leave' as the English say, when you leave without saying goodbye.

Illegally18 · 21/08/2026 00:06

Aluna · 20/08/2026 23:11

S&M = “Le vice anglais”

I thought it was whipping

Mumsntfan1 · 21/08/2026 05:51

Aluna · 20/08/2026 23:11

S&M = “Le vice anglais”

In German too. English sex is S&M. French sex means oral.

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