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Expectations of an 'English breakfast' abroad

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mysparkleismissing · Yesterday 14:16

Hubbie had an English breakfast in France yesterday and was grumpy that the sausages and bacon weren't what you'd get at home

Would you expect what you'd get at home?

Or allow poetic licence given the frankfurter type sausages are what they see as a sausage

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Jaichangecentfoisdenom · Yesterday 19:48

Illegally18 · Yesterday 16:31

It's a haggis.

God no, a haggis is far nicer. My father was French and loved andouillette, but he didn’t force me to eat it after I’d tried it once. Same for tripes à la mode de Caen. (Both of which I spat out in disgust.)
ETA: I’m another who wouldn’t expect to find an English breakfast on offer in France. For a start, French sausages often contain a lot more meat (can be 100%) than your average English sausages. Bacon isn’t really a thing, in my experience. I used to like the ordinary breakfast in a Normandy cafe back in the day, a café Calva and a cigarette, with maybe a hard boiled egg to wash it down!

saveforthat · Yesterday 19:49

Elsvieta · Yesterday 19:44

That's just streaky bacon - freely available in the UK! I prefer it to back bacon (with the fat at one end and the dull dry disc at the other) as well - but seem to be in a minority among Brits.

I prefer streaky but streaky bacon abroad is not the same as UK streaky. At the very least it's not cooked the same. I like it very crispy and it's usually a bit flabby abroad.

tammie49 · Yesterday 19:49

My DH does this when he gets carried away at a breakfast buffet. He ALWAYS regrets it and he never learns. In France, eat the French stuff - it'll be far superior to any attempt at full English.

Katigee410 · Yesterday 19:53

Or maybe not have an English breakfast and actually embrace the fact you're in France and try something french instead

IsThistheMiddleofNowhere · Yesterday 19:57

I can't understand why anyone would order an English breakfast in France when you are surrounded by the most delicious, baguettes, croissants, French butter and cheeses

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · Yesterday 20:03

You just have to embrace the carbs with a French breakfast! Pain au chocolat, tartine au beurre et confiture, croissant au beurre.. So, so good!

Elsvieta · Yesterday 20:07

Ginmonkeyagain · Yesterday 16:35

andouillette is more ... bummy .... than haggis though.

The outer casing is made from the intestines rather than the stomach, as with haggis. Yep - the smell of what's been through them lingers.

EmmaB1309 · Yesterday 20:07

Urgh I hate people who go abroad and complain that the food isn’t ‘British’ enough. He wants a full English he should go to Blackpool.

Somersetbaker · Yesterday 20:14

EmmaB1309 · Yesterday 20:07

Urgh I hate people who go abroad and complain that the food isn’t ‘British’ enough. He wants a full English he should go to Blackpool.

I would suggest Clacton rather than Blackpool, though he won't be able to share a table with Nige.

Aintgointogoa · Yesterday 20:14

HRTFT

Poor "hubbie" Did he pack any baked beans ? as the French, rightly, have no truck with them. However they have some of the best charcuterie in the world, and that includes sausages and bacon (tho it is not like UK Danish import type with the white foam stuff) Boke. Definitely leave the andouillette to the locals though ! Ditto eggs - fantastic omelettes. And not bad fries either - as in FRENCH 😉
I lived in different parts of France for several years and was a meat eater at that time. A steak bavette with fries and a flacon of red for lunch.....I could almost eat it now (pescatarian for 40 years 🤭)

Elsvieta · Yesterday 20:16

TheChosenTwo · Yesterday 16:31

Well I’m going to be a lone voice in the wind and not insult your dh for ordering a full English in France because sometimes if I’m staying in a hotel in England I go for French pastries for breakfast!

I don’t like a full English so wouldn’t order one abroad but if I did, no, I wouldn’t expect the sausages and bacon to be ‘the same’ as the ones we have in this country.
One of my best things about being abroad is to try the new foods I’ve not had before but it sometimes bites me on the arse 😂
Also, andouilette is a crime to food, it both smells and tastes like sewage 🥴

"Politics is like andouilette - it should smell like shit, but not too much"

Edouard Herriot (un mayor Francais)

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · Yesterday 20:18

bitontheobtuse · Yesterday 16:58

That sounds more like a German breakfast to me.

Or Dutch.

Aintgointogoa · Yesterday 20:20

@Jaichangecentfoisdenom café Calva and a tab ! 😜 Standing at the zinc in the café......people still smoked gîtanes, and indoors then....happy days (I was young !)

HollyhocksandPeons · Yesterday 20:28

maxslice · Yesterday 19:47

If you travel, you shouldn’t expect everything to be like it is at home. Because you purposely chose to go somewhere that isn’t like home.

Totally agree, you should only expect to buy Coke in cans and salty crisps, especially in dodgy countries - Coke and salty crisps were all I had for 1.5 weeks after I stupidly consumed a salad in a 4-star Egyptian hotel. Coke and salty crisps saved my life!

Illegally18 · Yesterday 20:49

Ginmonkeyagain · Yesterday 16:35

andouillette is more ... bummy .... than haggis though.

True.... When you slice into one, the smell certainly hits you. I like an andouillette in autumn.

SchnitzelAgain · Yesterday 21:06

DriveMeCrazy1974 · Yesterday 15:17

Blimey, there's a lot of snobbery on this thread, isn't there? I understand that most of us would want to order local food, but I can also understand that if somebody saw an 'English breakfast' on the menu, they'd expect it to be similar to one that would be cooked in this country, otherwise you'd just expect it to labelled as just a cooked breakfast, surely?
Most people seeing an English breakfast on the menu would probably have expectations of a pork sausage (possibly Cumberland or Lincolnshire), bacon, fried eggs etc.
I also get that somebody just might fancy that instead of food from the country they're staying in - some people just love a good old fashioned English breakfast! Personally, I would have been interested in ordering it, just to see what the French version of an English breakfast actually was!

None of your excuses make others snobbish.

mysparkleismissing · Yesterday 21:07

tarheelbaby · Yesterday 15:21

But how were the baked beans?

Cold apparently

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mysparkleismissing · Yesterday 21:18

Some brilliant replies here glad to see Im not alone thinking his complaint wasn't warranted
He didnt complain to the restaurant
We were in Dunkirk.

He is very much a creature of habit when it comes to food, will prefer a chain restaurant iver somewhere independent and I can generally look at the menu and guess his choices correctly- takes all sorts. He is a LOT better than he used to be with what he eats - generally cos Im the one doing the cooking at home

Tbf he doesn't like croissants or pain ai chocolat that much hence his choice of a cooked breakfast.

You should've seen his reaction to the breakfast in a riad in Marrakesh! Least we knew that wouldn't pose the same problem!

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PyongyangKipperbang · Yesterday 21:22

mysparkleismissing · Yesterday 21:18

Some brilliant replies here glad to see Im not alone thinking his complaint wasn't warranted
He didnt complain to the restaurant
We were in Dunkirk.

He is very much a creature of habit when it comes to food, will prefer a chain restaurant iver somewhere independent and I can generally look at the menu and guess his choices correctly- takes all sorts. He is a LOT better than he used to be with what he eats - generally cos Im the one doing the cooking at home

Tbf he doesn't like croissants or pain ai chocolat that much hence his choice of a cooked breakfast.

You should've seen his reaction to the breakfast in a riad in Marrakesh! Least we knew that wouldn't pose the same problem!

Oh I think we need to know more about Marrakesh!

Agapornis · Yesterday 21:41

Did he realise that Dunkirk is actually in France? When Churchill said "we shall fight on beaches" where does your husband think those beaches were? 😅

Agapornis · Yesterday 21:41

Did he realise that Dunkirk is actually in France? When Churchill said "we shall fight on beaches" where does your husband think those beaches were? 😅

Mummamap · Yesterday 21:45

Why would you go to France and get an English breakfast?? That is wrong on so many levels!

LejlaKapovic · Yesterday 23:36

mysparkleismissing · Yesterday 14:16

Hubbie had an English breakfast in France yesterday and was grumpy that the sausages and bacon weren't what you'd get at home

Would you expect what you'd get at home?

Or allow poetic licence given the frankfurter type sausages are what they see as a sausage

Is this a serious thread?

Why do people like you and your husband bother with travelling if you travel to seek and experience the comforts of home? Just stay at home then if you want your breakfast to be quintessentially English - because you're OBVIOUSLY not going to get that in FRANCE. So to answer your question, no, I wouldn't expect an English breakfast to be particularly authentic in France. Just like I don't go to Russia to have authentic Mexican food.

Clarinet1 · Today 00:44

I can’t remember who it was but let’s contrast this with the Frenchman who said “To eat well in England all you have to do have breakfast three times a day”.

GarlicAnywhere · Today 03:59

Weeellokthen · Yesterday 14:50

Going against the grain here but if something is advertised as "English breakfast" , then you would have a certain expectation, would you not?

The cuts, cures and sausage recipes are very different from country to country.

You'd only get an actual English breakfast if your hosts butchered their own pigs and cured their bacon the English way, or had the pork products imported from the UK.

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