The Reaper Should Have Gone To SpecSavers - Trump Thread #168

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Surely it's time.

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Previous thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5551862-oh-peacemaker-peacemaker-make-me-some-peace-trump-thread-167

Backwards and backwards they go.

And, guess what? Splitting the vaccine into separate shots means more visits to the doctor which means more $$$ for insurance companies. Funny that.

https://apnews.com/article/vaccine-research-autism-trump-kennedy-rfk-d10f81f221c4ae9f5b2f83dd0ee98b29

Idiot.
Trump: "At one year, you should have 5 separate visits for vaccines rather than getting them all in the same day. I've seen proof of where they have a vaccination thing that looks like the size of a bottle of soda and pour it into a little child's body."

Yeah. I just done a post on that here -

Trump and vaccines. Do people like hearing this idiocy? | Mumsnet

I won't cut and paste. I just done the basic "Trump fact check".

Get the EO.

The EO says "Based on consultation with my advisors and review of available scientific evidence,"

I ask myself, what scientific evidence. I seek and find it. It is on about what other countries do. So what countries. Find that in the report. See a claim made re the table of countries. I check footnotes and find the evidence made for that claim.... and the evidence cited does not directly match the claim made.

My gut feeling, and I am not a medic, it is a report ordered to match a political agenda rather than a medical led report to address a deficiency. Or maybe I am just biased.

I also checked US prices for the MMR. And yeah, seems to be all about the money. Because in the report, there is this on page 25.

"3. Ensures that all the diseases covered by the prior immunization schedule would still be available to anyone who wants them through their private health insurance, Medicaid, the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP), and/or the Vaccine for Children (VFC) Program. Among peer nations, the U.S. would continue to offer the greatest number of childhood vaccines for free to those who want them"

Yeah right,

Report is here :

Assessment of the U.S. Childhood and Adolescent Immunization Schedule Compared to Other Countries (hhs.gov)

Long standing speculation in the press that Barron is autistic - could this be driving Trump's MMR vaccine=autism, plus the money angle too, of course.

You know what ? Why bother ?

That is what I am thinking after going through that "scientific study" Trumps vax EO refers to.

Why bother putting forward structured arguments supported by verifiable data ? Just do what Trump and his acolytes do. Pull it all out of some rancid fat arse and state it to be true without a shred of direct evidence.

Trump is a top down system at it's worst. He has what he wants to be true. "Go forth scientists, make me a document that makes what I say to be true. "

The man is a fucking disgrace to humanity.

This. There's no arguing with them. They work on a different plane. It's absolutely insane and murderous.

Amazed he's been able to keep his mouth shut about this.

Trump hid in catering cart to board secret flight in Turkey amid Iran threat – reports.
Elaborate ruse was used to transport president to military flight from Air Force One to return from Nato meet.

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/aug/10/trump-secret-flight-nato-return?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

...The president reportedly boarded the old Air Force One jumbo jet in view of television cameras, and then was secretly shuttled minutes later to a smaller plane via an airport catering truck typically used to load meals and other supplies preflight, a US official told the Post...

...Trump’s actual location was concealed from journalists and some White House staff members. A US official told the Post that a credible threat to Trump involving Iran set the “deception operation” in motion.
The administration had previously claimed that Trump left Turkey on 8 July on the former Air Force One. The president had also announced on Truth Social that he would use the “former Air Force One” rather than the plane that flew him there, a new Boeing 747-8 gifted by Qatar...
...

The film "Snakes on a plane" comes to mind for some reason.

I guess the transfer took place via a catering truck - you see planes getting loaded via a hydraulic platform. But the reference to a "catering cart" made me think of those narrow carts pushed along the aisle as they ask "chicken or beef?" and I thought "Trump would never fit inside one of those"

Oh ha! Don't even suggest it... airline meals are bad enough already!

And his enormous lard arse would definitely 'snag' the seats 😂

@RedTagAlan I found that through covid. Somewhere in the heart of all the bull shit is an undeniable nugget of truth.

They latch on to this distort it, misrepresent it, invent stuff about it that seems plausible. They will direct you to other unverified papers, often from the likes of the heritage foundation, the Hoover institution. I can't remember which university was involved, but the professor had been fired from other universities for theft and their degree had fuck all to do with any research around the field of study.

They were a professor though which added credibility on the surface.

It's no surprise they are still using the same play book.

Rumack: What was it we had for dinner tonight?
Elaine Dickinson: Well, we had a choice of steak or fish.
Rumack: Yes, yes, I remember, I had lasagna.

Always a quote to be found in the classics :-)

Yup. The thing that should piss people off though is that Trump now has the folk who are supposed to be the goalkeepers doing his bidding.

Not a fucking ounce of integrity in any of them.

I am unable to find anything funny that is Trump-related at the moment, so am moving to Britain’s would-be Trump just for today:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/count-binface-v-farage-pilot-flight-path-clacton-by-election-b3030156.html

I can't find it now, but someone mocked up a "response" flight path to promote Farage.
In the shape of a cock and balls

Thank you for that image!

Blue Peter mode on....

Over here we have one we made earlier...

Lets see if the thumbnail works :-)

Giant penis protest greets Donald Trump arrival at Stansted Airport for UK state visit. (thelondoneconomic.com)

They're sure it was a catering cart, and not a fridge?

It's somewhere you keep chickens.

Cluck cluck.

I thought McConnell is in the fridge ?

It was The Man Johnson in this country who hid in a fridge to escape awkward questions .

Trump: "At one year, you should have 5 separate visits for vaccines rather than getting them all in the same day. I've seen proof of where they have a vaccination thing that looks like the size of a bottle of soda and pour it into a little child's body."

Absolute insanity. 'Vaccination thing'? Do you perhaps mean a hypodermic needle'? '"The size of a soda bottle they pour into the body'"? How does that work exactly? Sounds more like one of your enema fantasies to me, Scrotus.

I can't decide which is worse, that he says it or that MAGAts believe it? I have a feeling that the vax rates for MAGAt children will drop dramatically when they have to visit (and pay for) 5 trips to the doctor. And the little ones have to be dragged kicking and screaming into the doctor's office for yet another shot.

Common wisdom is that this is going to end up in the courts as an overreach of his authority.

Every injection is a medical risk.

Why multiply needlessly ?

(Remember that a 1 in a million chance plus a 1 in a million chance is 2 in a million, Not one in a billion).

This ignorant EO could affect supply outside of the US as well.

This will result in 5x the pain for the child, 5x the time off from work for the parents, & 5x the coinsurance. For the pharmacist, it’s also 5x the storage space, 5x the shipping. So similar to voter suppression tactics, this is immunizations suppression pure and simple.
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And for manufacturers, this will mean 5x the production run, driving up cost and capacity constraints. Their response is likely to either build a production line or hire more staff, which they will not do, or to pick and choose which vaccine to prioritize and which to stop making.
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And I have not gotten into the cost to medical practitioners or insurance companies...
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This one presidential edict will have a cascading effect that will cost billions and potentially kill millions around the world.
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The new EO doesn't apply outside the US, but it'll affect people abroad. As vaccines are a worldwide market, it will increase costs for all countries that buy vaccines. We will also see shortages in certain vaccines as companies make business decisions about what to produce, when, and if at all.
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Most pharmacies have a mini fridge to store vaccines. They are only so big and can only carry so many vials. That's why the new vaccine EO is so devilishly insidious. It is designed to gum up the vaccine production and distribution system and also to kill demand.
bsky.app/profile/socialmedialab.ca/post/3mssjqft4jk2y

Not having satisfied themselves with casting doubt on measles vaccinations, resulting in a massive resurgence of measles, they're now aiming for other practically eradicated diseases. They've done away with medical insurance for many, so cost issues will reduce vaccinations, plus casting more doubt on the safety will reduce vaccinations, plus increasing the number of required visits will likely reduce vaccinations... Next step (after multiple mass epidemics) is secure compounds to keep the rich separated from the infected riffraff.

And thank you to those who wished us a safe journey. We passed at least 6 active fires and through multiple areas of hazardous air. So glad we had portable hepafilters and N95's. We returned to clean air, piles more canning to do, and roadworks commencing at 7am on our street. And spare a thought for our once beautiful burning province 😭