Why hasn’t Brad Pitt been cancelled?

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Why hasn’t Brad Pitt been cancelled? I don’t even really pay attention to celebrity news but I see occasional things that he’s divorced, alcoholic, was abusive to his wife and children, children don’t want his last name, etc. Especially because his ex (Angelina Jolie) seems to be idolised for her beauty and humanitarian work. It’s not like people don’t like her!

Is Brad Pitt just too handsome? What’s the deal?

I don’t follow celebrity stuff. But having read about the plane incident here, if my husband behaved like this, even just once, I would never be able to look at him again in the same way. It’s unforgivable in my view. even if he was a model husband the rest of the time; the behaviour on the plane is appalling, and I could not move on from it.

Indeed.

It is the usual misogynist trope.

The media and the industry have decided that Angelina is the mad, bad woman who stole him from his dutiful wife and turned his kids against him in revenge while good old handsome, publicly charming Brad is blameless.

When in fact that:

• He happily cheated on his previous wife. No woman forces a man to cheat unless he wants to
• He has a history of alcohol abuse and is a weed user. Both can have a big impact on moods and behaviour
• There is evidence that the incident on the plane that caused the divorce involved him assaulting one of his kids and his wife. He never denied it
• Several of his kids have decided to drop his name. They have a mind of their own and for them to do that there must have been some serious issues.

Ultimately for all is money and fame he is the one losing out on a good relationship with his kids.

Loads of famous people have done shitty things and are still famous 🤷‍♀️

Absolutely.

As the statement is AJ's, I imagine it's not the objective truth, but given the broader situation it seems clear that BP was verbally aggressive, and (as they both had minor injuries) there was a physical altercation. Along with the way the older children have chosen to be estranged from their father, I'd say the truth is closer to her story than to his.

With Nicole, she declined to press charges. It was actually the bent cop, Mark Fuhrman, who was called to her residence the night he beat her up, chased her out the house, and smashed her car up. She decided not to press charges, with which he disagreed, and told her, "Well, it's your funeral." He may have been a bent cop, but he was right about her decision not to press charges being the wrong decision.

In late 1989, OJ actually was arrested for spousal abuse. He pleaded no contest to a charge of spousal battery, was given two years' probation and had to do 120 hours of community service. The police had bene called, after an incident at their house, and he fled from the scene in his car, but the police went after him.

I don't think any of this was harsh enough, I'm just saying that it's not quite accurate that the police did nothing.

and the funniest ! 🙄

It’s probably unfair, but when I think of Angelina Julie, I think of her leg and that photo.

Eh? He did deny that the plane incident became physical. And I believe that the kids dropped his name after years of her pouring poison in their ears.

If everyone divorced, alcoholic or absuive was cancelled there would be very few celebraties left- so it would be meaningless.
I don't think AJ would be winning any awards for reasonable behaviour either TBH.

I read it was all but one of his kids

The trouble is that this is how women have been silenced about abuse in all its forms for years. The perpetrator or the system cry ‘she’s unhinged’ ‘she’s mad’ to invalidate what she says and to protect the abuser. It’s a well work path.

Her behaviour as a young woman suggests she had some vulnerability and was psychologically not so healthy. That would actually make her more likely to end up in an abusive relationship.

So, her personality, psychology and behaviour over the years don’t prove what did or didn’t happen. He’s said he had a problem with drugs and alcohol - that would mean emotion regulation would be harder.

In short, we can never know for sure exactly what happened, but his sons post on Father’s Day is perhaps the most compelling.

That report is really vague and totally inadequate for a witness statement. It's full of phrases like 'verbally abusive' but fails to give any sort of detail as to what that abuse consisted of. I doubt it's a genuine court report and if it is, the lack of detail renders it pretty useless for most purposes.

Same reason that Johnny Depp hasn’t been cancelled. They are men. And a lot of women are the most sexist out there, and back it/them.

It was an anonymous tip off to family services, no one know who made the call.

Oh look CrazyMidget once lived with Brad and knows everything.

But we can't let what's happened to women over the years cloud the facts about an individual case. It still seems amazing to me that there was no pilot intervention in this massive brawl, and that three government agencies decided not to charge him. Neither did the pilot contact air traffic control about an unhinged, drunken, physically abusive passenger. I don't think AJ is a reliable witness.

Agree with what you say about women not being believed over the years. But that's really got nothing to do with this case. And we should not just blindly believe all women, because then they could just say anything and ruin a man. I'm sure you wouldn't like it if a son or husband or brother of yours was accused and convicted because we have to automatically believe all allegations of abuse.

Most of the time, the allegations are true, of course. But there are women who will exploit the fact that many automatically believe any and all accusations of abuse. Not sure if you remember the Rolling Stone magazine debacle over the article A Rape on Campus. The woman, pseudonym Jackie, admitted she had made the whole thing up.

While false accusations don't happen very often, they do happen, and I think AJ is messed-up enough to have embellished report so she could leak it later, knowing it would be in the files. And she did leak it.

Of course, I could be completely wrong. But AJ is a difficult person to trust as a reporter, especially as so many agencies decided not to charge him and the pilot didn't intervene.

ETA: Maddox's Father's Day post does give me pause.

Some very overly invested people on this thread.

Eh? Everything I mentioned in that post is public record.

And yet here you are, on p.8.

He's hot.

And Jolie has always been considered a wack job.

Ouila.

There are some nuts people when it comes to celebrities they find attractive. If you’re going to make up a ‘pack of lies’ why do it on a private plane? Surely it’s much easier to make up your domestic abuse story at home with no/ fewer witnesses than a locked box flying over the Atlantic? But she’s crazy because of things she did thirty years ago right?

The Ian Lightfoot account is great because he demonstrates how much awful shit some men in the public eye can get away with whereas a woman wears some blood in a vial in the 90s which proves she is unstable and weird and unlikeable for ever more. And this stuff rarely seems to be publicised but then I see Johnny Depp peering out at me from ads all the time so perhaps no one gives a shit whether they know or not. I don’t think people should be cancelled but I don’t get putting them on a pedestal either

Yes, in order for me to make my above post, I needed to read the thread. Kind of how forums work.

Re. your first para, because there was an argument anyway and Pitt probably lost his temper and yelled. It seems AJ might have embellished on that. I don't think she would have just made up an incident that had zero truth in it.

But this is a he-said, she-said, really. I find it very, very hard to like her after she keeps swiping people's men (Johnny Miler, her first husband, was also in a relationship when he and AJ got together.) So perhaps I'm biased.

I know we shouldn't blame the woman, and usually I don't. But AJ has extraordinary beauty, not to mention fame and millions...can all of us truly say that our husbands would resist a younger AJ if she batted her eyelashes and promised him a life with her?

To be clear, I still mostly blame the men who left their partners for her. But AJ should not have turned the high-beam of her exceptional beauty on those men either. She had a natural weapon there, and she used it against her fellow women....three times. (Johnny Lee Miller's partner, Laura Dern, and Jennifer Aniston.)

Pitt was incredibly stupid to dump JA for someone he didn't really know. I can't believe he did the dirty on her. He let his head be turned by a pretty face. More fool him.

It's eight pages long. Invested much? 🤣

Three and a half pages on my phone, read while enjoying my morning coffee.