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Terror attack on Berlin Pride

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HermioneWeasley · 26/07/2026 09:17

police are looking for a suspect with Islamist links.

yesterday I saw that islamic bookshops run by the Muslim brotherhood (who are banned in Egypt and I think the UAE) are bringing “workers” over on skilled worker visas. The UAE has stopped government scholarships to British universities because they are worried about their young people being radicalised here!

islamic terrorism is a problem. 75% of Mi5’s watch list are Muslim.

how do we remain a safe and tolerant place for the many peaceful Muslims while still retaining our values and safety?

Berlin Pride attack: suspect named after one killed and 16 injured

www.thetimes.com/article/470b9315-80aa-4c5f-92e5-2bc2ef91b02b?shareToken=2f519edb5016673a387a427079f51e9d

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DosPerros · Yesterday 10:02

I think respecting cultural traditions should come second to safeguarding children. When children do PE it gives school staff an opportunity to see any possible bruising or marks on a child’s limbs that are otherwise covered by trousers tights or jumpers. Parents asking for their child always to be kept out of PE is a huge safeguarding red flag in cases where there’s no medical need eg broken leg or disability or severe asthma or long term condition.

5MinuteArgument · Yesterday 10:09

Cynergy · Yesterday 09:09

I've gone direct to the MI5 website. They identify the 4 main terrorist ideologies as (in this order) Islamic Terrorism, Northern Ireland related terrorism, Extreme right wing terrorism and Left wing, anarchist and single-issue terrorism.

Islamist terrorism is the most significant terrorist threat to the UK by volume.

Islamist terrorists are generally driven by an extreme interpretation of Islam or perceived grievances against ‘the West’, particularly those propagated by terrorist groups such as Daesh (also referred to as ISIL, ISIS or the Islamic State) or al-Qaeda. Much of the volume of the threat is from individuals who have self-radicalised, seeking to carry out attacks using unsophisticated or low-sophistication methodologies. Generally, individuals will decide themselves to conduct an attack, rather than the attack being directed or controlled by a terrorist group. This can make it harder to identify terrorist activity.

There also remains an enduring threat from overseas terrorist groups which seek to inspire, support or enable attacks and which retain an intent to conduct sophisticated attacks.

https://www.mi5.gov.uk/what-we-do/countering-terrorism

Yes, Islamist terrorism is clearly the main threat to our national security. It's likely to be a growing threat as the Muslim community grows in number and influence. Also terrorist groups are well connected across borders throughout Europe and the ME, so the threats to Britain may come from groups based abroad with links to cells or individuals living in Britain.

MI5 is working on all this. I hope they know what they're doing.

CertifiedClown · Yesterday 10:20

AllaFieraDellEst · 26/07/2026 22:29

Argh, that is grim. Poor girl. That's not culture, it's subjugation. Both of my grandfathers fought in WWII to free Europe from fascism, we now have fascism via the back door in Britain. It's sickening.

I'm very worried about the future of the UK and Europe in general. It's an open secret that there are weapons stored at mosques and religious areas that are literally no go areas.

Dark days ahead. I fear what happened in Israel on October 7th could happen here too. We just literally just avoided a Bondi Beach style massacre that was going to be carried out in Manchester. Those animals have just been sentenced. They were targeting Jews, but said they'd be very happy to take out as many Christians as possible in the attempt too.

Pray that MI5 do everything they can to protect us.

Do you have any info on the Manchester attack pls?

1dayatatime · Yesterday 10:29

CertifiedClown · Yesterday 10:20

Do you have any info on the Manchester attack pls?

A simple google search shows:

https://www.gmp.police.uk/news/greater-manchester/news/news/2026/february/three-men-jailed-for-69-years-after-foiled-terrorist-plot-intended-to-target-the-jewish-community-in-gm/

1dayatatime · Yesterday 10:34

5MinuteArgument · Yesterday 09:24

Yes, it was criminally naive of Merkel and the Welcome Culture to invite over a million muslims from the ME in 2015. Anyone who objected at the time was shouted down.

Since then it's been a drip drip drip of rapes, murders and a terrorist attack on a Christmas market, all carried out by refugees.

As a result they've had the rise of the anti-immigation Pegida movement and now 152 far right AFD sitting in the German parliament. This pattern is repeating across Europe as people are fed up and disillusioned with the elites.

Was it naivety? This was pointed out at the time.

Personally I think those who invited these dangerous men into Germany and equally those who vocally supported this are also to blame for these tragedies. After all just as tigers do what tigers do, Islamist extremists do what Islamic extremists do - you can't feign surprise afterwards.

CertifiedClown · Yesterday 10:45

Sickening :(

I live in Manchester and this just made me throw up (granted I am unwell today anyways but reading that literally turned my stomach so much it set me off)

I am so scared for my children.

I don't understand what the fuck is wrong with our government to keep allowing this to happen.

What benefit are 95% of these people to our society and economy??

I'm sorry but I've had enough.

I live in an area of Manchester that is highly muslim concentrated.
My local park is full of rubbis and yes it is just these families that dump it! I lived 10 mins down the road in a british council estate for 10 years and our park was never like that.

The men stand outside the mosque and muslim owned shops all day spitting on the floor. Leaving rubbish and just being intimidating. They don't like the English that come in the shops. DH and I get ignored every single time we go in there. They don't smile/chat to us like they do to other muslims.

All my local councillors are muslim.

And this is something that is so upsetting to me.

A building in our road used to be a college. It was bought privately and is now the British Muslim Heritage Centre.

I live in Whalley Range. Manchester

It is a Conservation area.

That building is a GRADE 2 LISTED building and this is what is being built there!!

They are are completely DESTROYING a green area, in a Conservation area. Around a grade 2 listed building.

In a residential area that already has MASSIVE problems with parking, congestion and noise.

And the best part?? Nobody is saying anything. Nobody is opposed to it!!

Why?? Because its a muslim project/mosque.

I can guarantee if they were trying to build a Morrisons a vue cinema or a McDonalds the whole area would be up in arms!

But because its a mosque development nobody says shit!!! Because they are brainwashed!!

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Vinvertebrate · Yesterday 11:01

@CertifiedClown I don’t know Whaley Range, but I was in Cheetham Hill yesterday and recognise a lot of your description. Last time I was in the area, it was a (lovely) Jewish enclave with specialist shops, synagogue and was really tidy and well looked after. Now it looks post-apocalyptic - what have we allowed to happen? 😢

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · Yesterday 11:09

MellowZebra · Yesterday 06:00

There are not 40K men in the UK on the "terror watchlist". That is disinformation spread by Reform a while back.

Edited

You are right.There isn’t 40 000 men on the terror watch list, it’s over 43 000 men.
Nothing at all to do with Reform, that’s just your bias showing.

5MinuteArgument · Yesterday 11:09

Import the third world = become the third world.

Very sad. But because its mainly happening to the less well off, not in the leafy suburbs and quaint villages where the politicians, journalists, professionals and lawyers live, it's allowed to carry on. And anyone who's says it's a problem is ignored, shouted down or called racist or Islamophobic.

5MinuteArgument · Yesterday 11:15

1dayatatime · Yesterday 10:34

Was it naivety? This was pointed out at the time.

Personally I think those who invited these dangerous men into Germany and equally those who vocally supported this are also to blame for these tragedies. After all just as tigers do what tigers do, Islamist extremists do what Islamic extremists do - you can't feign surprise afterwards.

I agree that they are also to blame. If I was German I'd feel furious with Merkel. I feel furious with her even without being German as she willfully destabilised what had been a safe and well-ordered country.

So yes they are to blame.

CertifiedClown · Yesterday 11:16

Vinvertebrate · Yesterday 11:01

@CertifiedClown I don’t know Whaley Range, but I was in Cheetham Hill yesterday and recognise a lot of your description. Last time I was in the area, it was a (lovely) Jewish enclave with specialist shops, synagogue and was really tidy and well looked after. Now it looks post-apocalyptic - what have we allowed to happen? 😢

There are so many areas of Manchester that are like this now and there is one common denominator but say it outloud and you're racist! Why? For pointing out the truth? For not wanting to live in a complete shit hole?

The problem with my area is this : There are 2 main demographics of people who live here, muslims and far left voters. The perfect storm and the idiots that are supporting it cannot see they are literally turkeys voting for Christmas.

The other day I have about 6 Muslim women with their children Canvassing for the Mayoral candidate Bev Craig, who is by her own words 'the most visable lesbian in politics '.

I so wanted to ask them how that fits in with Islam? Do they support gay rights now? Or is Bev just a useful idiot they side with to keep Labour in power because Labour do things like lifting the 2 child cap and keep encouraging more and more immigration?

Why does nobody talk about what happen in the Iranian revolution when liberals helped the Islamists to come to power and then were slaughtered by them?!

History repeats its self

Parsley4321 · Yesterday 11:18

All parts of the uk I’m near Bristol you’ve got Manchester talked about in this thread I’ve seen Bradford and areas in Birmingham it’s a total disgrace and I’m sick of it. I was in Hounslow last year at my in laws house that was predominantly Hindu nice houses well looked after now Pakistan has creeped from Southall it’s a bloody mess. My sons father said the same he’s first generation British he’s voting reform

MellowZebra · Yesterday 11:20

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · Yesterday 11:09

You are right.There isn’t 40 000 men on the terror watch list, it’s over 43 000 men.
Nothing at all to do with Reform, that’s just your bias showing.

No it isn't. Pp said there were 40k+ Muslim men in the UK on a terror watchlist. This was a misrepresentation that was circulating amongst the Reform posse last year. It is a misrepresentation. I will repeat again:

The 40K+ is the number of subjects of interest MI5 has investigated and subsequently moved to the Closed Subject of Interest list as they are judged not to be a current threat. A very large number of those 40k individuals on the CSOI list have never even set foot in the UK.

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CertifiedClown · Yesterday 11:25

MellowZebra · Yesterday 11:20

No it isn't. Pp said there were 40k+ Muslim men in the UK on a terror watchlist. This was a misrepresentation that was circulating amongst the Reform posse last year. It is a misrepresentation. I will repeat again:

The 40K+ is the number of subjects of interest MI5 has investigated and subsequently moved to the Closed Subject of Interest list as they are judged not to be a current threat. A very large number of those 40k individuals on the CSOI list have never even set foot in the UK.

Right and these men that are coming over in 160 seat mega dinghys and throw all forms of ID into the sea... how do we know these are not men on this list?

The fact that most of the people on terrorist watch lists come from the same places we are allowing people ibto our countrybfrom just shows it is not safe.

How many British people arenon watch lists and are banned from the middle east for terrorist behaviour against Muslims?? This is a ONE WAY problem.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · Yesterday 11:26

MellowZebra · Yesterday 11:20

No it isn't. Pp said there were 40k+ Muslim men in the UK on a terror watchlist. This was a misrepresentation that was circulating amongst the Reform posse last year. It is a misrepresentation. I will repeat again:

The 40K+ is the number of subjects of interest MI5 has investigated and subsequently moved to the Closed Subject of Interest list as they are judged not to be a current threat. A very large number of those 40k individuals on the CSOI list have never even set foot in the UK.

You are just trying to misdirect the situation and somehow blame Reform.
I bet the next attack carried out by someone on the terror watch list or not, you will blame Reform. They made them do it.

5MinuteArgument · Yesterday 11:29

CertifiedClown · Yesterday 11:16

There are so many areas of Manchester that are like this now and there is one common denominator but say it outloud and you're racist! Why? For pointing out the truth? For not wanting to live in a complete shit hole?

The problem with my area is this : There are 2 main demographics of people who live here, muslims and far left voters. The perfect storm and the idiots that are supporting it cannot see they are literally turkeys voting for Christmas.

The other day I have about 6 Muslim women with their children Canvassing for the Mayoral candidate Bev Craig, who is by her own words 'the most visable lesbian in politics '.

I so wanted to ask them how that fits in with Islam? Do they support gay rights now? Or is Bev just a useful idiot they side with to keep Labour in power because Labour do things like lifting the 2 child cap and keep encouraging more and more immigration?

Why does nobody talk about what happen in the Iranian revolution when liberals helped the Islamists to come to power and then were slaughtered by them?!

History repeats its self

Yes, the progressive left are the useful idiots who see Muslims as natural allies, in that they all support multiculturalism and open borders. These people are completely blind to the reality. One day they will wake up to their stupidity. But by then it will be too late.

MellowZebra · Yesterday 11:31

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · Yesterday 11:26

You are just trying to misdirect the situation and somehow blame Reform.
I bet the next attack carried out by someone on the terror watch list or not, you will blame Reform. They made them do it.

Absolutely not. The only people responsible for Islamic terrorist attacks are Islamic terrorists. Don't put words in my mouth. Thank you.

Eta: I am blaming Reform for spreading disinformation and hate, though.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · Yesterday 11:32

5MinuteArgument · Yesterday 11:29

Yes, the progressive left are the useful idiots who see Muslims as natural allies, in that they all support multiculturalism and open borders. These people are completely blind to the reality. One day they will wake up to their stupidity. But by then it will be too late.

I view the progression left as useful idiots and evil.
Not all both, but certainly guilty of the problems this country faces.

AllaFieraDellEst · Yesterday 11:34

CertifiedClown · Yesterday 10:45

Sickening :(

I live in Manchester and this just made me throw up (granted I am unwell today anyways but reading that literally turned my stomach so much it set me off)

I am so scared for my children.

I don't understand what the fuck is wrong with our government to keep allowing this to happen.

What benefit are 95% of these people to our society and economy??

I'm sorry but I've had enough.

I live in an area of Manchester that is highly muslim concentrated.
My local park is full of rubbis and yes it is just these families that dump it! I lived 10 mins down the road in a british council estate for 10 years and our park was never like that.

The men stand outside the mosque and muslim owned shops all day spitting on the floor. Leaving rubbish and just being intimidating. They don't like the English that come in the shops. DH and I get ignored every single time we go in there. They don't smile/chat to us like they do to other muslims.

All my local councillors are muslim.

And this is something that is so upsetting to me.

A building in our road used to be a college. It was bought privately and is now the British Muslim Heritage Centre.

I live in Whalley Range. Manchester

It is a Conservation area.

That building is a GRADE 2 LISTED building and this is what is being built there!!

They are are completely DESTROYING a green area, in a Conservation area. Around a grade 2 listed building.

In a residential area that already has MASSIVE problems with parking, congestion and noise.

And the best part?? Nobody is saying anything. Nobody is opposed to it!!

Why?? Because its a muslim project/mosque.

I can guarantee if they were trying to build a Morrisons a vue cinema or a McDonalds the whole area would be up in arms!

But because its a mosque development nobody says shit!!! Because they are brainwashed!!

I'm so sorry this is happening to your area and I'm fucking furious about it too. My mum was born in Plaistow, East End, in the early 1950s into a working class family and even though people weren't affluent or particularly well off (for the most part) the community took such pride in their environment and their surroundings. It looked nice. Green Street today looks like the worst areas of Islamabad. Cockneys were a real culture, now that's been decimated. Cultural vabdalism is what it is!

And I agree with @Vinvertebrate too.

As you say, it's the Red-Green alliance that's going to be our ruin. They're leading us all to our deathbeds if we don't change course immediately, I'm certain of it.

Don't know what the answer is. I'm not a natural Reform voter (I've never voted for them, I've always been Labour - so obviously I feel I'm feeling like an utter fool now), so not sure if I can vote for them. The conservatives got us into this bloody mess too. Its impossible.

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Desperatelyseekinglazysusan · Yesterday 11:35

5MinuteArgument · Yesterday 11:29

Yes, the progressive left are the useful idiots who see Muslims as natural allies, in that they all support multiculturalism and open borders. These people are completely blind to the reality. One day they will wake up to their stupidity. But by then it will be too late.

They've done it before, when they cheerleaded the Ayatollahs into power in Iran, then were all brutally murdered. The same will happen if there is ever a Palestinian state.

5MinuteArgument · Yesterday 11:37

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · Yesterday 11:26

You are just trying to misdirect the situation and somehow blame Reform.
I bet the next attack carried out by someone on the terror watch list or not, you will blame Reform. They made them do it.

Yes, I think we can all agree that 75% of MI5's caseload is Islamist terrorism. Also, as they have said, terror groups are well connected across borders. So threats to Britain may come from people based abroad with links to cells or individuals here.

38thparallel · Yesterday 11:44

The other day I have about 6 Muslim women with their children Canvassing for the Mayoral candidate Bev Craig, who is by her own words 'the most visable lesbian in politics '.
I so wanted to ask them how that fits in with Islam

@CertifiedClown I would be interested to hear their reply.

Alternativelyviewed · Yesterday 11:52

5MinuteArgument · Yesterday 10:09

Yes, Islamist terrorism is clearly the main threat to our national security. It's likely to be a growing threat as the Muslim community grows in number and influence. Also terrorist groups are well connected across borders throughout Europe and the ME, so the threats to Britain may come from groups based abroad with links to cells or individuals living in Britain.

MI5 is working on all this. I hope they know what they're doing.

Indeed after some of the training for police has some to light after dear Henry Novak etc it is worrying.

Alternativelyviewed · Yesterday 11:55

@5MinuteArgument it's been a free for all hasn't it for a very long time. If anyone wantes to get dangeous people in there are very little checks to stop them