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Thread 54 Starmer: Grev Søppelbøttefjes Sommergalskap

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DuncinToffee · 10/07/2026 17:13

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placemats · 19/07/2026 13:28

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2026/jul/19/restoring-britains-health-to-2014-levels-could-add-2-to-gdp-thinktank-says

Health matters for economic growth and wellbeing. Will also add that despite returning to work and huge nursery fees after the birth of my eldest child, I had great support throughout my pregnancy, birth and post partum all post ovarian cancer -- thankfully low malignancy which after fertility sparing surgery still required close follow ups. Had a great nursery in Soho, London which gave me peace of mind and the ability to continue to work. This was 1993/1994. How times have changed.

Restoring Britain’s health to 2014 levels could add 2% to GDP, thinktank says

Health Foundation paper argues health is an economic asset and improving it could generate £72bn for public finances

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2026/jul/19/restoring-britains-health-to-2014-levels-could-add-2-to-gdp-thinktank-says

Notonthestairs · 19/07/2026 13:29

DuncinToffee · 19/07/2026 13:18

^https://bsky.app/profile/dangrey.bsky.social/post/3mqyllxvtw22b^

Badenoch just said, on national TV, that UK's carbon emissions have gone up "in total" because of the 2008 Climate Change Act.

They have, in fact, declined by more than half.

Did #Kuenssberg break in to point this basic fact out? Of course not

At best that is sloppy work from Kuenssberg.
At worst it turns an interview in to a party political broadcast.

TemperanceWest · 19/07/2026 14:12

Oh dear. Farage tripping over his own lies again.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jul/19/nigel-farage-admits-george-cottrell-paid-for-filming-and-let-him-use-his-home

SerendipityJane · 19/07/2026 14:34

TemperanceWest · 19/07/2026 14:12

Edited

It's interesting he seems happy to make a statement that will (hopefully) mean that he Reform should have paid tax on this "donation"

I can't help but think of a criminal who will admit to being a thief to avoid admitting being a murderer ....

DuncinToffee · 19/07/2026 15:26

“totally undeclarable in every single way”

😂

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placemats · 19/07/2026 15:28

"claimed he had sought advice from a “top international lawyer” who told him the £5m did not need to be declared because it was unconditional."

😂

SerendipityJane · 19/07/2026 15:30

placemats · 19/07/2026 15:28

"claimed he had sought advice from a “top international lawyer” who told him the £5m did not need to be declared because it was unconditional."

😂

Angela Rayner

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placemats · 19/07/2026 15:32

But you know Louise Haigh and Angela Rayner.

placemats · 19/07/2026 15:33

Ha! 😂 @SerendipityJane

TemperanceWest · 19/07/2026 15:37

placemats · 19/07/2026 15:28

"claimed he had sought advice from a “top international lawyer” who told him the £5m did not need to be declared because it was unconditional."

😂

Make the advice public, then. That's what Rayner did in the end.

placemats · 19/07/2026 15:49

Rayner did. But worked as a care worker so, low life to the dizzy high life of "owning" two properties, one of which was the property of her son who has complex needs.

SerendipityJane · 19/07/2026 15:51

TemperanceWest · 19/07/2026 15:37

Make the advice public, then. That's what Rayner did in the end.

"What's the point ?"
he would say.
"The press are only out to get me."
Then, no pause for anyone to comment;
"Did I tell you I was the most attacked person in British history ? No ? Must have slipped ,my mind."

placemats · 19/07/2026 15:53

It's entirely fair to photograph the home of a person who has complex needs but whose mum is in Parliament.

But not my family you cretinous beasts of media.

SerendipityJane · 19/07/2026 15:54

placemats · 19/07/2026 15:49

Rayner did. But worked as a care worker so, low life to the dizzy high life of "owning" two properties, one of which was the property of her son who has complex needs.

Has Farage said that families are off limits ?

Or is it just family members who aren't a front for money laundering ?

Piggywaspushed · 19/07/2026 16:14

I literally saw Keir's beer in the wild in MN today.

DuncinToffee · 19/07/2026 16:21

It's such a shame England didn't make the final with Starmer there to watch it.

MN is going to be insane tomorrow.

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SerendipityJane · 19/07/2026 16:22

Piggywaspushed · 19/07/2026 16:14

I literally saw Keir's beer in the wild in MN today.

I think (despite pretending to call for it for 2 years) the whole right wing have been blindsided by the speed of the change. (Something constitutional scholars will make pointed reference to when the Trump dynasty are established).

And the worst of it is they are faced with someone who they rather ignored (I mean "Manchester ? Who cares who lives there ?") and are now paying the price with a hatful of hollow. He's also well clear of Mandelson.

TemperanceWest · 19/07/2026 16:35

SerendipityJane · 19/07/2026 16:22

I think (despite pretending to call for it for 2 years) the whole right wing have been blindsided by the speed of the change. (Something constitutional scholars will make pointed reference to when the Trump dynasty are established).

And the worst of it is they are faced with someone who they rather ignored (I mean "Manchester ? Who cares who lives there ?") and are now paying the price with a hatful of hollow. He's also well clear of Mandelson.

Yep. And all the vile smears about Starmer and Savile, Starmr and the Southport killer's father, rent boys, rumours about Starmer's sexuality and the rumours about his children and beergate etc. etc. will all now, thankfully, be redundant.

Right wing MN will be going bananas tomorrow as @DuncinToffee says. Could be a laugh.

5128gap · 19/07/2026 16:38

SerendipityJane · 19/07/2026 16:22

I think (despite pretending to call for it for 2 years) the whole right wing have been blindsided by the speed of the change. (Something constitutional scholars will make pointed reference to when the Trump dynasty are established).

And the worst of it is they are faced with someone who they rather ignored (I mean "Manchester ? Who cares who lives there ?") and are now paying the price with a hatful of hollow. He's also well clear of Mandelson.

They're very angry, aren't they? I think its the sheer powerlessness they're feeling. Because not even a GE would get rid of Labour now, as neither of their parties are polling high enough for a majority. So it's Labour or a GE and a Labour led coalition stretching on....(no emoji that quite captures the smugness of the smug face I need here.)

SerendipityJane · 19/07/2026 16:47

5128gap · 19/07/2026 16:38

They're very angry, aren't they? I think its the sheer powerlessness they're feeling. Because not even a GE would get rid of Labour now, as neither of their parties are polling high enough for a majority. So it's Labour or a GE and a Labour led coalition stretching on....(no emoji that quite captures the smugness of the smug face I need here.)

It would be worth living forever to see how this is recorded for 2226.

I have yet to read any series commentary on the seismic events of the past (let us remind ourselves) two months

Just to remind ourselves:

Nigel Farage the self-styled bad boy of British politics and the man who was set to replace Keir Stamer[1] Has gone from being elected an MP in 2024 at the head of 3 (turned out to be 4) fellow party MPs, now standing at exactly the same number plus some rejected Tories in 2026.

Meantime someone who wasn't even an MP or party leader has gone from private subject to MP to PM in (let's repeat it) two months

"Unprecedented" seems inadequate for that degree of shift. This isn't swapping one useless Tory for another. And therefore there is no playbook. We are seeing it being (badly) written.

TemperanceWest · 19/07/2026 16:48

5128gap · 19/07/2026 16:38

They're very angry, aren't they? I think its the sheer powerlessness they're feeling. Because not even a GE would get rid of Labour now, as neither of their parties are polling high enough for a majority. So it's Labour or a GE and a Labour led coalition stretching on....(no emoji that quite captures the smugness of the smug face I need here.)

That reminds me, I saw this earlier. Even a Reform/Con coalition wouldn't be enough. And Reform hasn't even finished imploding yet.

Thread 54 Starmer: Grev Søppelbøttefjes Sommergalskap
SerendipityJane · 19/07/2026 16:56

TemperanceWest · 19/07/2026 16:48

That reminds me, I saw this earlier. Even a Reform/Con coalition wouldn't be enough. And Reform hasn't even finished imploding yet.

Our Mate Phil has been prophesying a hung parliament next election (regardless).

A progressive coalition - emasculating the right wing - could be a real thing. And if all those parties have electoral reform as a manifesto pledge ....

5128gap · 19/07/2026 17:03

TemperanceWest · 19/07/2026 16:48

That reminds me, I saw this earlier. Even a Reform/Con coalition wouldn't be enough. And Reform hasn't even finished imploding yet.

Yes. And I don't know why I didn't know this before, but was delighted to discover that in a hung parliament the encumbent PM gets first crack at forming a coalition government anyway. So the progressive coalition it would be. If they're fuming at Labour, try Labour plus Green plus the nationalists and see how they like them onions.

SerendipityJane · 19/07/2026 17:18

5128gap · 19/07/2026 17:03

Yes. And I don't know why I didn't know this before, but was delighted to discover that in a hung parliament the encumbent PM gets first crack at forming a coalition government anyway. So the progressive coalition it would be. If they're fuming at Labour, try Labour plus Green plus the nationalists and see how they like them onions.

The "British System" is quite agnostic about parties. The key - indeed the only - criteria is that a PM can deliver a majority to the Monarch.. All else is ephemeral (and therefore malleable) convention.

I mean it would be nice for a single party to have a majority. But it's not requried.

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