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Thread 54 Starmer: Grev Søppelbøttefjes Sommergalskap

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DuncinToffee · 10/07/2026 17:13

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LizzieW1969 · 17/07/2026 13:05

I’m feeling very encouraged following Burnham’s speech today.

PickAChew · 17/07/2026 13:05

Great choice of music. I just played the end again as ITV had it up in full, without commentary, but couldn't really hear it.

pointythings · 17/07/2026 13:35

Well, folk loved to attack Starmer over his lack of charisma and dull delivery.... They will be scrambling to find something to attack Burnham on, because they can't use that line.

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 17/07/2026 13:42

pointythings · 17/07/2026 13:35

Well, folk loved to attack Starmer over his lack of charisma and dull delivery.... They will be scrambling to find something to attack Burnham on, because they can't use that line.

There's already a thread about women and children being unsafe under Burnham...

placemats · 17/07/2026 13:46

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 17/07/2026 13:42

There's already a thread about women and children being unsafe under Burnham...

People who start those threads are those that let their poor suffering dog bark all day in a concreted small back yard, put them off lead in a small park and let them shit on the pavement without cleaning it up. Is my opinion.

TemperanceWest · 17/07/2026 13:50

I think the best thing to do now on MN is to not engage with the more stupid discussions and attempts to tear him down. Genuine discussions about policies etc. fine. Conspiracy theories, unfounded accusations of anti-Semitism, talk of communism and spreading of scare stories etc. ignore.

See if I can stick to it.😬

You'd better deliver after all this, Andy!

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 17/07/2026 13:55

TemperanceWest · 17/07/2026 13:50

I think the best thing to do now on MN is to not engage with the more stupid discussions and attempts to tear him down. Genuine discussions about policies etc. fine. Conspiracy theories, unfounded accusations of anti-Semitism, talk of communism and spreading of scare stories etc. ignore.

See if I can stick to it.😬

You'd better deliver after all this, Andy!

I generally try to avoid it - but sometimes can't help myself and go straight into 'fools rush in' mode. 😆

And yes - I really hope Burnham can pull this off too.

placemats · 17/07/2026 14:05

How long do you give a person to 'pull it off". Narf narf!

Change means long term investments and not pandering to quick sound bites on podcasts and 24 hours headlines from the MSM.

DuncinToffee · 17/07/2026 14:10

He has had about 1 hour now, calamity, call the IMF

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TemperanceWest · 17/07/2026 14:19

DuncinToffee · 17/07/2026 14:10

He has had about 1 hour now, calamity, call the IMF

Oh I have seen that the IMF is apparently imminent once again!

Efacsen · 17/07/2026 14:23

TemperanceWest · 17/07/2026 14:19

Oh I have seen that the IMF is apparently imminent once again!

And he's not even PM yet until the king agrees it on Monday!

Persephonia1966 · 17/07/2026 14:45

Piggywaspushed · 17/07/2026 14:25

But Andy is The King!

Sorry to bring down the mood but this is depressing:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp3x3487zl9o

Also
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly7y3qeg37o

How bad spirited/brain rotted do you have to be to immediately assume someone rescuing a seagull must be up to bad things (I don't know what exactly, presumably eating it???)

A woman wearing a black hijab and black face mask stands in front of a grassy area of a residential street.

Muslim woman suffers racial abuse over viral seagull rescue video

The video has been widely shared online, including by council leader Oliver Freeston.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly7y3qeg37o

Cheguevarahamster · 17/07/2026 14:49

Will need to catch up thread and Andy's speech later.
Survation latest polling has Reform and Labour neck and neck.

Tick tock Nigel.

Thread 54 Starmer: Grev Søppelbøttefjes Sommergalskap
SerendipityJane · 17/07/2026 14:56

Cheguevarahamster · 17/07/2026 14:49

Will need to catch up thread and Andy's speech later.
Survation latest polling has Reform and Labour neck and neck.

Tick tock Nigel.

Snapshots are all very well, but the direction of travel is more informative.

SerendipityJane · 17/07/2026 15:02

Interesting look over some aspects of Mahmood as Chancellor.

"Blue Labour" - does sound quite nice.

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music that you love, upload original content and share it all with friends, family and the world on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/4AP_NixgG6A

placemats · 17/07/2026 15:08

We will know on Monday afternoon what the cabinet will be. Meanwhile it'll be a gloriously less hot weekend and already the cooler breezes from the North Atlantic are making their very welcome presence felt. Bliss.

Piggywaspushed · 17/07/2026 15:12

Persephonia1966 · 17/07/2026 14:45

Also
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly7y3qeg37o

How bad spirited/brain rotted do you have to be to immediately assume someone rescuing a seagull must be up to bad things (I don't know what exactly, presumably eating it???)

There's an online (and presumably RL) trope that Muslims are violent to animals and hate them especially dogs , for whatever reason.

Sadiq Khan (soon to be Lord Khan!) posted a picture of himself and his dog ready to watch the England match. There was a slew of immediate racist responses, many of which focused on 'disbelief' that he owned a dog.

Piggywaspushed · 17/07/2026 15:14

Tommeh did actually apologise for the video he circulated of the Glaswegian man in a park after the man bit back.

I have never ever heard of him owning his own mistakes.

Told you before, Tommy - don't mess with an angry Glaswegian.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy060e1r468o

A headshot of Tommy Robinson - a white man with short hair and a light coloured beard.

Tommy Robinson says he 'got it wrong' over Glasgow man falsely accused of filming children

UK-born Quoroum Beg was actually filming an anti-immigration demonstration which had earlier forced him and his children to leave a Glasgow park.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy060e1r468o

dontcallmelen · 17/07/2026 17:23

SerendipityJane · 17/07/2026 15:02

Interesting look over some aspects of Mahmood as Chancellor.

"Blue Labour" - does sound quite nice.

Thanks Jane makes it slightly less mystifying, I missed his speech will catch it later.
So the leader of East Lincolnshire council a disciple of Farage more than ready to inflame hatred it appears, I presume no reprimand or bringing the council into disrepute I feel like I’m reliving the days of BNP/Nick Griffiths the genie is well & truly out of the bottle spewing bile.

Saucery · 17/07/2026 17:37

School’s out for summer! <does a little dance> <hums One More Step>
I liked Andy Burnham’s speech, hope he has some concrete ideas to push that vision through.

Evenstar · 17/07/2026 18:27

🤣 probably not unless she’s advising him 🙄

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