Oh, peacemaker, peacemaker make me some peace - Trump Thread #167

[Spandauer]

Many, many more months of the Mango Mussolini's maniacal merde.

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Previous thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5545753-green-is-the-new-blue-trump-thread-166

He's full on loony tunes.
Re writing history to the current WH fairy tales of an America that never existed
Except in his head can imagine John Wayne riding around in his head showing them injuns what a real American is.

FACTCHECK NEEDED.

Having a look at a transcript of a speech he made about his "Trump Ratepayers Protection plan" He said this

"And I came up with the idea that, you know, build your own plant, this way nobody can complain."

He is talking about data centers and AI electricity supply. Can someone factcheck that please. That HE came up with the idea that these companies "grow their own" leccy ?

Ah no wait. Reading on in the transcript, the fella is a totally incoherent lunatic. So scrub that factcheck request.

"The last thing they're going to be able to do is supply electric at numbers nobody's ever explained to me why it's so much electricity, why you need so much, nor did I care that much, to be honest with you. All I know is you need more than double what we produce right now. Think of it so, we produce tremendous amounts of electricity for every business, and this industry needs more than double that amount."

Interesting. So you are President of the United States, and nobody has ever explained to you why loads of electric things need lots of electricity. But fair enough, you never cared. Hey, why should any POTUS care about such trivial things.

Oh look, picking any old article... Biden did:

Biden administration sets plan to triple US nuclear energy capacity by 2050 | Utility Dive

No need to click the link. But I wanna find out what this " Trump Ratepayers Protection plan" is. I had a search, cos no point listening to that madman. And this is taking a lot of hunting, to find out what it is. What do data centers have to do with ratepayers ? Is this a commie thing ? I found this on a Trump Regime site:

"Companies that sign the pledge are committing to build, bring, or buy all of the energy needed to power their facilities and to pay the full cost of that energy and its supporting infrastructure, no matter what."

Ah right. So it's not about ratepayers and it's not a commie thing. You are basically saying that these companies - "Amazon, Google, Meta, Microsoft, OpenAI, Oracle, and xAI ", have to pay for the electricity they use.

What a fucking groundbreaking concept. That corporations pay for the leccy they use. Fuck me, this guy is super smart. We should make him PRESIDENT OF THE WORLD.

Transcript here for any masochists out there -

Speech: Donald Trump Discusses the Ratepayer Protect Pledge at the EPA - July 23, 2026 — Trump Archive (trump-archive.com)

Windmill alert though - "They don't use too many windmills -- they make the windmills, but they don't use them. "

Edit format... the score through thing.

White washing. Literally.

In other non news.
Is Schrodingers Senator alive or dead today?

Morning laugh😂 + coffee ☕ Thank you!

It's not August 3rd yet so I think he's alive.

US and UK are set to hold a conference in London next week to discuss the Strait of Hormuz, the BBC understands. US Defence Secretary Pete Hegseth and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Dan Caine will attend the conference, which was first reported by Axios.

Will there be demonstrations? Will there be flags? Will news outlets say "US Secretary of War, warrior extraordinaire Kegsbreath?

Apparently Kegsbreath (and US) pushed for this conference to be arranged by the U.K. So they do want our help now, huh?
Or will it be yet another badly disguised attempt to belittle and blackmail the U.K. and Europe?

Last night was the rearranged and pared down rerun of the WH News Correspondents Dinner attended (again) by 🍊💩, who gave a supposedly 'lighthearted' speech.

Why did they bother? And why did any of those journalists think it was a good idea to turn up? Shaking his tiny hand and accepting awards - ugh!

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jul/24/white-house-correspondents-dinner-trump-washington?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Oh, ye of little faith! He's alive and chatting with his bois.

Thank you for the laugh, @Spandauer

So was it cheaper that Ka$h using FBI planes to visit his GF?

Secret Service agent ‘leaked details of Vance son’s flight to golf lesson’
An agent has been suspended after information about the planned helicopter journey to Joint Base Andrews was revealed by a news outlet

A member of the Secret Service has been suspended for allegedly leaking details of a military helicopter flight that was planned to take JD Vance’s son to a golf lesson.
The vice-president’s official military helicopter was set up to take Vance and his young son earlier this month to Joint Base Andrews in Maryland, which includes a golf centre, MS Now reported last week. The trip was ultimately cancelled due to severe weather.
Using the helicopter is estimated to cost up to $24,600 per hour, and the request came after several uses of it by the Vances to look for a new family home in Virginia.
MS Now reported that Secret Service agents “groused among themselves” about the plan for Vance’s son. On Thursday, the Secret Service confirmed that an agent had been suspended and was facing potential criminal action after being accused of leaking information for the news story.
(The Times)

Cool. And that golf facility just happens to be one of the courses that Trump is "Trumpifying". As in, he appears to have claimed it as his own and is using taxpayers' money to pay his mates to redesign it.

It's dictatorship 101.

Dictator has a facility, and only his best minions are invited to use it. And use it they must to show loyalty. Even if it means sending their kids there and forcing them to have golf lessons.

Now, am I spinning that, or am I close to the truth :-)

Great work guys. Telling the whole world that the Secret Service aren't happy with V-POTUS to the extent they are openly discussing it.

Quite sure that wont interest any bad actors in the world. No sirree.

If anyone has been scrabbling around for "they couldn't be that stupid" examples - you can take the weekend off now.

I really don't think the average American has realised how much of the world has given up on them. They seem to be slowly morphing into a grotesque parody of (what little I know off) pre-opium wars China. And it's hard to see it stopping there. In the distance it's quite possible to make out a vague shape of what a US cosplaying North Korea would look like.

I mean NK sent out goons to tell a London shopkeeper to stop insulting Kim Jong Un. And I can totally see this happening with Trump ...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/15/north-koreans-complain-london-hairdresser-kim-jong-un

UK Navy involved in something in the Gulf now.

That's all I have sorry.

That's interesting about the Vance thing.

Apparently he did an interview on Joe Rogan's podcast, distancing himself from the Trump administration's hawkish members on Iran and criticising the lobbying by Israel directed at Trump and the US public. (I haven't listened so am going by the reporting.)

'He's Campaigning Against Trump': JD Vance Accused of Bitter Joe Rogan Betrayal Over Iran War
https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/jd-vance-criticises-trump-iran-strategy-2028-speculation-1809358

Vance says Israeli campaign tried to sway US opinion against Iran diplomacy
The US vice president also said he faced ‘vicious’ personal attacks over his diplomatic outreach to end war.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/7/16/vance-says-israeli-campaign-tried-to-sway-us-opinion-against-iran-diplomacy

This fits with that big newspaper article a few months ago on what happened in the room when Bibi persuaded Trump to get involved in Bibi's intended war on Iran. It was widely believed Vance was a major source for that article.

Then yesterday this story I saw this story in the WaPo newsletter. (I can't read the article as I no longer subscribe to the paper, but I allow them to spam me the newsletter as I like seeing the headlines.)

Knives are out for Vance in the GOP. His allies say it’s a coordinated ‘op.’
The vice president has faced a barrage of attacks recently that are unusual for their intensity and how early in the political calendar they are taking place.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2026/07/24/knives-are-out-vance-gop-his-allies-say-its-coordinated-op/

PRC diplomats were complaining to the Australian labour party last week because there were Taiwan officials at their party conference.

Kim is far from the only one so petty. But Trump is determined to catch up. Dictators gotta be strong.

Thank you @Spandauer - I needed that smile. I've just read that Orangina said at the WH Correspondents' Dinner last night that he will be running (!) for another term in 2028.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd7le4ylev2o

Gulf of Aden, not Persin Gulf?

www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news/2026/june/04/20260604-dragon-and-french-task-group

Recent official Royal Navy updates confirm that HMS Dragon, a Type 45 destroyer, has been operating in the Gulf of Aden alongside the French aircraft carrier FS Charles de Gaulle and its carrier strike group. The deployment is focused on regional maritime security, air defence, and protecting freedom of navigation

But not even LLM could find any info re now.

This. CNN feed -

2 HR 18 MIN AGO

UK Navy reports incident involving tanker and military forces
By Tim Lister and Ibrahim Dahman
The UK Navy has reported an incident Friday in the Gulf of Oman involving a commercial vessel and “military forces.”
In a bulletin issued Saturday, the UK Maritime Trade Operations (UKMTO) said it had “received a report of an incident involving a tanker and military forces in the Gulf of Oman. Vessels are advised to consider the latest maritime security information and maintain awareness of the evolving operational environment.”

ok
At this stage, the agency has not identified the tanker, the military forces involved, or the nature of the encounter. It has advised ships in the area to remain vigilant and follow the latest maritime security guidance.

So unlikely that UK Navy is involved.

CNN typo then ?

In a bulletin issued Saturday, the UK Maritime Trade Operations (UKMTO) said it had “received a report of an incident involving a tanker and military forces in the Gulf of Oman. Vessels are advised to consider the latest maritime security information and maintain awareness of the evolving operational environment.”
Last week, a similar notice was issued after the United States Navy intercepted and boarded a ship in the Gulf of Oman.
US Central Command has not commented on any interceptions Friday.

CNN

You really can't make this shit up. Trump is like that mad uncle posting shit on Facebook.

"Saturday, July 25, 2026 3:21 AM Truth Social

^Alaska removes thousands from state's active voter list, erroneously flagging some citizens: https://alaskabeacon.com/2026/07/23/alaska-removes-thousands-from-states-active-voter-list-erroneously-flagging-some-citizens/"^

The article opens, and it says :

"The state of Alaska has removed 3,048 Alaskans from the state’s active voter list, claiming they may be noncitizens."

It goes on to say how they basically fucked up. Because of the convoluted way the Trump gang were using DMV data. The article is about how the Trump regime fucked up and it is right there in the title of the article he linked - "erroneously flagging some citizens"