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Link to previous thread.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5541352-thread-51-starmer-pedo-mellon-a-minno?page=10&reply=153095543

Oh it’s VAT on school fees is it. I was waiting to find out what the nasty policy that has caused so much harm to parents and children was. That was in the manifesto.

With all due respect, you are the one that brought up that the opinion doesn't count.

Careful now!

Raven, it might be an idea to edit. If you keep using that name for Badenoch you will keep being reported by our lurkers and MN might end up pulling the whole thread.

Ah.
I see.
Naughty space in there.
Apologies. 😃

You do need to edit the post. @Raven08

Otherwise this thread will be deleted.

It still stands. Always edit before replying or ask that your post be withdrawn.

It won't let me I'm afraid. Ill report it

Yeah report is the best. You have to be quick with the edits and not post after.

I believe that no other European country charges VAT on education. The upshot is that private education will be even more exclusive. Schools will let in less able pupils with richer parents. Fewer scholarships etc

Righto

Buying private education is a choice, not a necessity or a legal requirement. Therefore it's entirely legitimate to charge VAT on it.

@placemats
I blame proof reading dds university dissertation so many times...it was on EP and the Rivers of blood speech (she got a first 🙂)

Does anyone know who the woman in white on Badenoch’s right is? She looked absolutely disgusted and very uncomfortable throughout today’s performance.

This is a reductive view and counterintuitive.

^ this
Many European countries don't have private education which, of course, makes education a far more even playing field for all (e.g. Finland)

Private school was always meant to be exclusive.

Whatabout Europe doesn't really work as they have different cultures wrt private schools.

So you are angry on behalf of PS users, what about state schools, what damage has been caused?

She did. I wonder if KB is getting too vile for even the Tories 🤔
I've said it before...
You incite the mob, you may end up being targeted by that mob.

Thanks @mnhq👍

Regardless of the rights and wrong of the VAT policy, it is not on to represent the views of a small subset of all teachers, a group with vested interests, as the view of all teachers in the UK. I don't understand how @derxa thought we wouldn't pick up on this. It's a low blow an a deeply silly tactic to use in a group with a better than average understanding of stats and data.

To me, it felt as just another attack on a female Labour politician.

And derxa has been around long enough to know what our reaction would be

Badenoch's questions during this PMQs was vitriol after vitriol. Given that she's had accusations of bullying, which she denies, nevertheless it comes as no surprise.

0/10 there's little room for doing better.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/30/kemi-badenoch-accused-of-bullying-and-traumatising-staff

Exactly. She targeted Reeves and Phillipson. She had a bit of a go at Miliband but it seemed less vitriolic (oart from the - admittedly funny - joke about him not being a stranger to betraying people he was close to).

Mims Davies?