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Spandauer · 08/03/2026 19:18

m.youtube.com/watch?v=3W7-ngmO_p8

Beware the Ides of March - Trump Thread #156
OP posts:
Spandauer · 08/03/2026 19:18

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Beware the Ides of March - Trump Thread #156
OP posts:
Evenstar · 08/03/2026 19:21

This isn’t going to end well is it?

Beware the Ides of March - Trump Thread #156
flapjackfairy · 08/03/2026 19:27

RedTagAlan · 08/03/2026 17:34

Yup. It's complicated aint it.

Civilian to military, a nod is enough, but even then, too much. Trump has a problem with the US "hand over the heart" thing. That button mushroom organ is rather transient over his person.

Probably resident on his head just now, hence the massive white cap ?

he doesnt have a heart to put his hand over

TheABC · 08/03/2026 20:46

Evenstar · 08/03/2026 19:21

This isn’t going to end well is it?

No, it will not. In the same way you have to be insane or stupid to conquer Russia by marching, you have be deluded to think you can conquer Iran with boots on the ground.

Mountains matter. If they didn't, someone else would've tried it before now. I'm sure they thought has occurred to Iran's neighbours.

I don't know how it will end, but I can predict:

  • everyone wants a short war. The longer it drags out, the higher oil prices will stay for the West (and conversely) the higher inflation will be for the Gulf States who ship food through the Straits of Hourmez. All the Iranian leadership has to do is hang on.
  • Trump will extract every squeeze he can from the conflict. He will extort millions. He will try to postpone the mid terms. If he does, there will be a legal war, followed by a civil split by the blue states. I suspect his staffers are calculating his healthy time left in months instead of years.
  • Europe needs to take advantage of the distraction to pump more weapons into Ukraine. The war is not going in Russians favour and it's a chance to get ahead before the next mobilisation. Will they do so? Probably not.
  • Stsrmer needs to pin the current underfunded navy shambles back onto the Conservatives. It takes 4-6 years to build ships, so 6+ for funding, force planning and manufacturing hubs. Weirdly enough Labour were not in power then. I think they could have done more now in the last budget, but it's unreasonable to blame them for the current lack of readiness.
AcrossthePond55 · 08/03/2026 20:59

Spandauer · 08/03/2026 19:18

😢
Voice of a movement. RIP Country Joe.

TooBigForMyBoots · 08/03/2026 21:18

RedTagAlan · 08/03/2026 14:56

Wow. I did see the white baseball cap and did think "dignified ? ". It should be no hat. That complicates a salute of course, but in that case an Army cap could be worn ? Or even a flat cap I suppose.

My 75yo mother was aghast at this!

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Justsaynonow · 08/03/2026 21:33

Spandauer · 08/03/2026 21:26

WH press secretary Karoline Leavitt tells Fox News that a military draft is on the table.
https://bsky.app/profile/amysiskind.com/post/3mglbgnciic2j

After Congress, House Rep's and Executives' children, they should start with the recent ICE recruits. They're big tough guys that want to fight...

AcrossthePond55 · 08/03/2026 21:33

Spandauer · 08/03/2026 21:26

WH press secretary Karoline Leavitt tells Fox News that a military draft is on the table.
https://bsky.app/profile/amysiskind.com/post/3mglbgnciic2j

The draft reinstated?

"And it's 1, 2, 3 what are we fighting for?"

RafaistheKingofClay · 08/03/2026 21:58

BBC are reporting Iranian state media as announcing Mojtaba Khamenei as the new supreme leader of Iran.

Just so I am clear on this:
The US ousted the regime in Venezuela and replaced it with the same regime and now has replaced Ayatollah Khamenei with Ayatollah Khamenei, is that right?

That very stable genius seems to be hiding very deep.

persephonia · 08/03/2026 22:02

TheABC · 08/03/2026 20:46

No, it will not. In the same way you have to be insane or stupid to conquer Russia by marching, you have be deluded to think you can conquer Iran with boots on the ground.

Mountains matter. If they didn't, someone else would've tried it before now. I'm sure they thought has occurred to Iran's neighbours.

I don't know how it will end, but I can predict:

  • everyone wants a short war. The longer it drags out, the higher oil prices will stay for the West (and conversely) the higher inflation will be for the Gulf States who ship food through the Straits of Hourmez. All the Iranian leadership has to do is hang on.
  • Trump will extract every squeeze he can from the conflict. He will extort millions. He will try to postpone the mid terms. If he does, there will be a legal war, followed by a civil split by the blue states. I suspect his staffers are calculating his healthy time left in months instead of years.
  • Europe needs to take advantage of the distraction to pump more weapons into Ukraine. The war is not going in Russians favour and it's a chance to get ahead before the next mobilisation. Will they do so? Probably not.
  • Stsrmer needs to pin the current underfunded navy shambles back onto the Conservatives. It takes 4-6 years to build ships, so 6+ for funding, force planning and manufacturing hubs. Weirdly enough Labour were not in power then. I think they could have done more now in the last budget, but it's unreasonable to blame them for the current lack of readiness.

We should!
The problem is the "more weapons" should include anti drone/anti missile ammunition and weapons. But there was already a concern that supplying too much to Ukraine could deplete Europe's own stores. Now those stores will be wanted to defend against Iranian strikes. The irony is Trump criticising Europe for spending on priorities other than defence but the whole reason this is a problem is because of Americas stupid wars leaving Europe worrying about multiple fronts at once.

PerkingFaintly · 08/03/2026 22:03

I've followed up this thing about Leavitt and a US military draft.

I could only find her saying she couldn't take it off the table but it wasn't part of the current plan.

Of course this administration lie as they breathe, so accord that what value you will. But although the reporting is strictly true, it doesn't convey quite the same impression as Leavitt.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/leavitt-says-ground-troops-iran-not-currently-being-considered-doesnt-rule-out

Leavitt says ground troops in Iran not currently being considered, doesn't rule it out

White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt won't rule out sending ground troops to Iran as part of Operation Epic Fury but says they are "not part of the plan" yet.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/leavitt-says-ground-troops-iran-not-currently-being-considered-doesnt-rule-out

Eyesopenwideawake · 08/03/2026 22:13

Just seen that oil has topped $100 a barrel. Maga are going to be pissed.

TokyoSushi · 08/03/2026 22:44

RafaistheKingofClay · 08/03/2026 21:58

BBC are reporting Iranian state media as announcing Mojtaba Khamenei as the new supreme leader of Iran.

Just so I am clear on this:
The US ousted the regime in Venezuela and replaced it with the same regime and now has replaced Ayatollah Khamenei with Ayatollah Khamenei, is that right?

That very stable genius seems to be hiding very deep.

Yep, another ‘Same for Same’ bigly regime change manoeuvre there.

TokyoSushi · 08/03/2026 22:45

Eyesopenwideawake · 08/03/2026 22:13

Just seen that oil has topped $100 a barrel. Maga are going to be pissed.

$110 now and rising so they were just saying on the BBC, brilliant.

DuncinToffee · 08/03/2026 23:26

Trump: “Short term oil prices, which will drop rapidly when the destruction of the Iran nuclear threat is over, is a very small price to pay for U.S.A., and World, Safety and Peace. ONLY FOOLS WOULD THINK DIFFERENTLY!President DJT”

TooBigForMyBoots · 09/03/2026 01:35

AcrossthePond55 · 08/03/2026 21:33

The draft reinstated?

"And it's 1, 2, 3 what are we fighting for?"

Don't ask me, I don't give a damn.🤷‍♀️

RedTagAlan · 09/03/2026 02:00

TooBigForMyBoots · 09/03/2026 01:35

Don't ask me, I don't give a damn.🤷‍♀️

I hate to do this, and I admit I can't find the exact words she used, but I think Goebbels Barbie is correct about the US draft. She is showing an understanding of the law here.

The USA already has the draft. All US males of a certain age have to register with the draft already. It takes congress to convert the registration to actual service, but the draft cannot be taken off the table because it is superglued there by law.

Our American poster friends can maybe confirm this ? It's something I read about a while back. I just had a web search and found this:

Military Draft Explained: Rules, Registration & Law For 2026 (operationmilitarykids.org)

Military Draft Explained: Rules, Registration & Law For 2026

Learn how the U.S. military draft works, who must register, and legal consequences explained clearly and accurately for 2026.

https://www.operationmilitarykids.org/military-draft-explained/

TooBigForMyBoots · 09/03/2026 02:09

DuncinToffee · 08/03/2026 23:26

Trump: “Short term oil prices, which will drop rapidly when the destruction of the Iran nuclear threat is over, is a very small price to pay for U.S.A., and World, Safety and Peace. ONLY FOOLS WOULD THINK DIFFERENTLY!President DJT”

Team America.🇺🇲
Fuck yeah!👊👊🇺🇲

RedTagAlan · 09/03/2026 02:18

TooBigForMyBoots · 09/03/2026 02:09

Team America.🇺🇲
Fuck yeah!👊👊🇺🇲

I suppose there is that thing that Dear Orange Leader has millions of barrels of stolen VZ oil he is trying to flog.

RedTagAlan · 09/03/2026 03:03

persephonia · 08/03/2026 22:02

We should!
The problem is the "more weapons" should include anti drone/anti missile ammunition and weapons. But there was already a concern that supplying too much to Ukraine could deplete Europe's own stores. Now those stores will be wanted to defend against Iranian strikes. The irony is Trump criticising Europe for spending on priorities other than defence but the whole reason this is a problem is because of Americas stupid wars leaving Europe worrying about multiple fronts at once.

Me being pro Ukraine, I can spin this a bit.

Biden was careful with anti missile stocks. He was supplying older versions of Patriot and THADD to Ukraine, and the factories were working to update what the US had.

The Biden admin were doing all sorts of jiggery pokery to make sure the US had what it needed in reserve. I recall, for example, that Biden persuaded Japan and South Korea to spend on upgrading their systems, with discount, and it was their older systems that went to Ukraine.

Of course, the downside to Bidens method was that stocks were not increasing. And there is the bit about he had to do it this way because he was going through congress, so to get the votes he had to show them that the US still had defence.

I recall at the time there was also the book fiddling talked about. Not illegal. But when Biden announced a $2 billion package for Ukraine, that was book price. Not the actual value. And it was going to US companies anyway.

But Trump ? He is spaffing it all against a wall, as a PP said.

Isreal needs more bombs ? No problem. We have 12k in a Warehouse in Turkey. I can flog them, and do it by emergency powers so can bypass congress.

And Trump has no budget to replace any of this. He is literally blowing up US stockpiles that have taken decades to build up.

RedTagAlan · 09/03/2026 06:35

On Ukraine, from CNN:

"Ukraine’s drone experts will be “on site” in the Middle East next week, President Volodymyr Zelensky said Sunday, as he suggested that resource-sharing with the US can be a “two-way street.”
The Ukrainian leader made the comments after he was asked whether Ukraine would be able to help the US and its allies in the Gulf to repel Iranian drones.
“Next week, when the experts are on site, they will look at the situation and help, because they are coming with their capabilities,” Zelensky told reporters, Ukrainian news agency Unian reported.
Zelensky said on Wednesday that Gulf leaders and the US had asked for Ukraine’s help in repelling Iranian-made Shahed drones, which have become a signature weapon of Russia’s war on Ukraine.
And officials in Kyiv have signaled that they can share their know-how on combating drones with states in the Middle East amid the current conflict.
“If we are talking about increasing certain resources, we would very much like this to be a two-way street,” Zelensky said, in an apparent reference to receiving US air defense missiles.
“You know what resources we are lacking, and we understand what resources the Gulf countries are lacking.”"

Something I was not aware of was that Ukraine are using anti-drone drones, that they have developed. Article here:

Ukraine offers low-cost interceptor drones to aid US in Middle East war | AP News

From that :

"Lockheed Martin in a statement said it produced a record 600 PAC-3 MSE interceptors for Patriot batteries in all of 2025. Zelenskyy claimed Thursday that Middle Eastern nations expended over 800 such missiles in just three days — more than Ukraine has held in reserve throughout the entire four-year war.

"To counter the Shaheds, Kyiv developed low-cost interceptor drones priced at roughly $1,000 to $2,000, moving the systems from prototype to mass production within months in 2025.

But Ukraine never developed a defense against ballistic missiles. That’s why securing Patriot missiles remains a life-or-death challenge for Kyiv.
Against this backdrop, Zelenskyy is pitching a “swap” to partners. “Our message is very simple,” he said. “We’d like to quietly ... receive the Patriot missiles we have a deficit of, and give them a corresponding number of interceptors.”""

It appears everyone is doing ammo counting, apart from Trump.

Zelenskyy and his team are playing this well. It looks like his team will be arriving in the Gulf just as the Patriots are all gone.

I reckon they will turn up in full car mechanic mode:

" Oh dear oh dear. What have you done here ? This won't be a cheap fix", they will mutter, as they chew the end of a cheap ballpoint and roll a super slim cigarette from the tobacco dust at the bottom on an empty pack of Golden Virginia.

A serviceman controls an FPV drone of "General Cherry" company at the polygon in Ukraine, on Dec. 4, 2025. (AP Photo/Evgeniy Maloletka, File)

Ukraine’s low-cost Shahed killers draw US and Gulf interest, but a wartime ban blocks sales

Ukraine is offering its battle-tested drone defenses to U.S. and Gulf partners, hoping to trade that know-how for scarce Patriot missiles.

https://apnews.com/article/iran-ukraine-shahed-russia-drone-defenses-war-76c91cad24bb98dd201f8f37a93c3464

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