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What automatically makes you think people are idiots?

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FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 05/02/2026 16:00

For me it’s:

people who think that Michael Jackson isn’t a pedophile.

people who say things like “Londanistan” “Bradfordistan”

People who say “If the Holocaust is real, why do the tattoo numbers only go up to 5 digits”

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OneWittyGuide · 12/02/2026 09:49

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FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 12/02/2026 11:10

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What propoganda?

Anti-Zionism IS antisemitism. HTH.

troll hunting is against the rules BTW. I just see through your antisemitic bile and attempts to call Jews or their allies liars. Maybe, just maybe, people support Jews and Israel.

On that note - the many Jewish women who’ve come forward who said they were raped by Hamas - BECAUSE they’re Jewish BTW because Hamas hates Jews - are they liars?

If you’re Jewish, I’m sorry what happened to your ancestors

No you’re not

but it gives you no right to then turn around and do the same thing to the Palestinians!

Eh? I’m not Israeli. and what’s happening in Palestine is NOTHING like the Shoah. Why are you directing that comment at me??

Oh I see - you’re collectively blaming all Jews for what’s happening in Palestine (which BTW is a war, not a genocide). Do you do the same to British Muslims when you hear that Iraq has lowers the age of consent in girls to 9? Or for the fact that women have been eaten to death by Islamic regime in Iran for showing a few strands of hair? Or is it just Jews you collectively blame?

This is why I don’t believe anyone who says the pro-pal movement isn’t antisemitic. Doesn’t take long for people to show their true colours. Barely had to scratch the surface.

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FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 12/02/2026 11:14

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Why is it suspicious? Because I called Holocaust deniers idiots? They are.

No one any ANYTHING remotely antisemitic, or even mentioned the Jewish religion yet here you are, trying to say criticism of Israel is antisemitism!

You didn’t need to mention the word Jew. Your oats are completely littered with antisemitic tropes. In fact the exact same that was used in Nazi propoganda in the 1930’s. Do you want me to explain how? Are you interested in learning? Or will you just call me a bot (BTW Hitler did the whole “The Jews spread lies and infiltrate spaces with their propoganda”).

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FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 12/02/2026 11:14

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Also why do you people say Zionist when you mean Jew?
Ankther tactic employed by Hitler BTW

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BunfightBetty · 12/02/2026 11:19

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No one any ANYTHING remotely antisemitic, or even mentioned the Jewish religion yet here you are, trying to say criticism of Israel is antisemitism!

Utter claptrap. YOU have repeatedly spouted anti-semitic bile across numerous posts on this thread, which began as a funny and interesting thread but took a turn with your posts.

You've had one post deleted, and I was tempted to report your posts of this morning, but prefer actually to let them stand so other readers can see your hatred.

You have even accused FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods of committing atrocities - I hate that people like you have hijacked their religion and are committing atrocities in their name. -do enlighten us as to which atrocities you are sure she has committed and how you know this.

veryposhlol · 12/02/2026 11:20

People who think Starmer is not a buffoon
Labour/Green voters in general
People who say
HEY not hello
Kinda
Like
Reach out
Can I get - not please may I have
Conspiracy nutters

DuchessofStaffordshire · 12/02/2026 11:22

veryposhlol · 12/02/2026 11:20

People who think Starmer is not a buffoon
Labour/Green voters in general
People who say
HEY not hello
Kinda
Like
Reach out
Can I get - not please may I have
Conspiracy nutters

Thank god! A nice light hearted post.

FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 12/02/2026 11:22

@OneWittyGuide are these 15 women all liars then?
www.jns.org/15-hostages-break-silence-on-sexual-violence-on-oct-7/

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finbow · 12/02/2026 11:24

People (boys) who walk with their hands in their pants.

Saw a couple of them going to Nando’s in Stevenage and decided I wasn’t touching that door after themand turned back.
I’ve got a rage for everyone who enables that sort of scum culture - the parents, the restaurant that didn’t shoo them out, or any grown-up men walking beside them and not telling them that is not ok.

OneWittyGuide · 12/02/2026 11:29

FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 12/02/2026 11:14

Also why do you people say Zionist when you mean Jew?
Ankther tactic employed by Hitler BTW

I say Zionist because I mean Zionist, I know this, you know this, every body knows the difference but you’re trying to conflate the 2!

Anti Zionism isn’t the same as antisemitism and we all know that.

FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 12/02/2026 11:33

BunfightBetty · 12/02/2026 11:19

No one any ANYTHING remotely antisemitic, or even mentioned the Jewish religion yet here you are, trying to say criticism of Israel is antisemitism!

Utter claptrap. YOU have repeatedly spouted anti-semitic bile across numerous posts on this thread, which began as a funny and interesting thread but took a turn with your posts.

You've had one post deleted, and I was tempted to report your posts of this morning, but prefer actually to let them stand so other readers can see your hatred.

You have even accused FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods of committing atrocities - I hate that people like you have hijacked their religion and are committing atrocities in their name. -do enlighten us as to which atrocities you are sure she has committed and how you know this.

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I’m not reporting any of their posts as I want people to see them for who they are

But yes they are very antisemitic - the problem is people don’t know what antisemitism looks like, and some just don’t care

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FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 12/02/2026 11:35

finbow · 12/02/2026 11:24

People (boys) who walk with their hands in their pants.

Saw a couple of them going to Nando’s in Stevenage and decided I wasn’t touching that door after themand turned back.
I’ve got a rage for everyone who enables that sort of scum culture - the parents, the restaurant that didn’t shoo them out, or any grown-up men walking beside them and not telling them that is not ok.

I feel like everyone has reversed the good hand washing hygiene practices brought around by COVID. I’m starting to see people leave public toilets without washing their hands 🤮

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OneWittyGuide · 12/02/2026 11:37

BunfightBetty · 12/02/2026 11:19

No one any ANYTHING remotely antisemitic, or even mentioned the Jewish religion yet here you are, trying to say criticism of Israel is antisemitism!

Utter claptrap. YOU have repeatedly spouted anti-semitic bile across numerous posts on this thread, which began as a funny and interesting thread but took a turn with your posts.

You've had one post deleted, and I was tempted to report your posts of this morning, but prefer actually to let them stand so other readers can see your hatred.

You have even accused FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods of committing atrocities - I hate that people like you have hijacked their religion and are committing atrocities in their name. -do enlighten us as to which atrocities you are sure she has committed and how you know this.

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Show me exactly where I said anything against the Jewish faith? I criticised Israel, whose prime minister currently has an arrest warrant issued by the ICC or ICJ for committing genocide! I will continue to criticise Israel until it stops committing genocide! I will criticise any country that commits genocide, no matter the religion.

United Arab Emirates is currently committing one in Sudan for example, which I also mentioned on my very first post btw, but you’ve conveniently ignored that point.

FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 12/02/2026 11:37

OneWittyGuide · 12/02/2026 11:29

I say Zionist because I mean Zionist, I know this, you know this, every body knows the difference but you’re trying to conflate the 2!

Anti Zionism isn’t the same as antisemitism and we all know that.

You can’t separate Zionism and Jews.

Not least because YOU are trying to make non-Israeli Jews accountable for the actions of Israel

Zionism is the belief Jewish people should have a state of their own in their homeland
You know, like Christians do (20 states) and Muslims do (55 states). How come you only have a problem when Jewish people - who have ONE country (that’s actually only 76% Jewish, as opposed to the likes of Iraq which is 99% Muslim) do it?

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FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 12/02/2026 11:47

OneWittyGuide · 12/02/2026 11:37

Show me exactly where I said anything against the Jewish faith? I criticised Israel, whose prime minister currently has an arrest warrant issued by the ICC or ICJ for committing genocide! I will continue to criticise Israel until it stops committing genocide! I will criticise any country that commits genocide, no matter the religion.

United Arab Emirates is currently committing one in Sudan for example, which I also mentioned on my very first post btw, but you’ve conveniently ignored that point.

You literally said to me that Jewish descendants have “no right” to what they’re doing in Palestine - making Jews and non-Israelis accountable for the actions of Israel. Why did you do that?

you likened the war in Gaza and linked it to the Shoah - it’s NOTHING like the Shoah. Claiming it is antisemitism because it waters down and downplays the seriousness of the Shoah and equates it with war, which it wasn’t

You have accused me of being a bot - accusing Jewish people or their allies of being disingenuous, liars and fakes goes back millennia

You have implied Jewish people are not victims - of rape! Saying Jews play victims when they are not victims is an antisemitic trope that dates back centuries and was heavily used in Nazi Germany. And don’t say you never said Jews - you know Hamas targeted Jewish people, and that they hate them

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FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 12/02/2026 12:15

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What makes it a genocide and not a war?

And why did you liken it to the Shoah?

I’m not scared about being labelled antisemitism

You seem to think that you haven’t made antisemitic comments because you haven’t said the word “Jewish”, but I’m telling you you have. Are you willing to listen as to why?
People CAN criticise Israel without being antisemitic. But it so rarely happens - and that isn’t what you have done.

Would yoy hold all Christmas to account for the archons of pedophile priests? What you say to Armenians “Sorry you’re being persecuted and ethnically cleansed but what about Magdalene laundries?”

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FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 12/02/2026 12:16

FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 12/02/2026 11:22

@OneWittyGuide are these 15 women all liars then?
www.jns.org/15-hostages-break-silence-on-sexual-violence-on-oct-7/

Ill Ask again - do you think these women are liars?

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BunfightBetty · 12/02/2026 12:33

OneWittyGuide · 12/02/2026 11:37

Show me exactly where I said anything against the Jewish faith? I criticised Israel, whose prime minister currently has an arrest warrant issued by the ICC or ICJ for committing genocide! I will continue to criticise Israel until it stops committing genocide! I will criticise any country that commits genocide, no matter the religion.

United Arab Emirates is currently committing one in Sudan for example, which I also mentioned on my very first post btw, but you’ve conveniently ignored that point.

In your deleted post you denied the Holocaust.

In your post of 09.49 today, you said this: If you’re Jewish, I’m sorry what happened to your ancestors but it gives you no right to then turn around and do the same thing to the Palestinians!

What you do here is you treat Jewish people as a collective entity, and blame all Jews for the actions of the Israeli government. You also use the trauma of Jewish people from the Holocaust as a means to shame Jewish people, treat their suffering as conditional, and smear them as having less moral standing now. This is classic, core anti-semitism.

This is just ONE of the absolutely repugnant things you have said. I'm not even going to dignify the rest of your bile with any analysis, and I only respond to you now for this to stand in the thread as a whole.

And of course you're 'not scared to be labelled' as anti-semitic - you seem very proud of it. As you know well, criticism of the Israeli state does not, in and of itself, equate to anti-semitism, but it often does tip into it, and it's a well-worn tactic for anti-semites to squawk about 'it's ok to criticise Israel' as a cover for what they're really all about.

FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 12/02/2026 12:40

BunfightBetty · 12/02/2026 12:33

In your deleted post you denied the Holocaust.

In your post of 09.49 today, you said this: If you’re Jewish, I’m sorry what happened to your ancestors but it gives you no right to then turn around and do the same thing to the Palestinians!

What you do here is you treat Jewish people as a collective entity, and blame all Jews for the actions of the Israeli government. You also use the trauma of Jewish people from the Holocaust as a means to shame Jewish people, treat their suffering as conditional, and smear them as having less moral standing now. This is classic, core anti-semitism.

This is just ONE of the absolutely repugnant things you have said. I'm not even going to dignify the rest of your bile with any analysis, and I only respond to you now for this to stand in the thread as a whole.

And of course you're 'not scared to be labelled' as anti-semitic - you seem very proud of it. As you know well, criticism of the Israeli state does not, in and of itself, equate to anti-semitism, but it often does tip into it, and it's a well-worn tactic for anti-semites to squawk about 'it's ok to criticise Israel' as a cover for what they're really all about.

I have to say I think I’ve seen maybe 2 or 3 examples of critical of Israeli government without it being also antisemitic. The rest ALWAYS comes with antisemitism in some from. This actually harms British Jews but no one seems to care.

One denied the Holocaust! Really! FFS. Yeah sure not antisemitism here.

Inam going to do a post for @OneWittyGuide on what antisemtism looks like and the nuances of what it is and how antisemitism today is nothing new but just the same as it was centuries ago (but with added technology) so they can hopefully avoid those kind of comments in the future. But I’m having my lunch first.

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DuchessofStaffordshire · 12/02/2026 12:41

BunfightBetty · 12/02/2026 12:33

In your deleted post you denied the Holocaust.

In your post of 09.49 today, you said this: If you’re Jewish, I’m sorry what happened to your ancestors but it gives you no right to then turn around and do the same thing to the Palestinians!

What you do here is you treat Jewish people as a collective entity, and blame all Jews for the actions of the Israeli government. You also use the trauma of Jewish people from the Holocaust as a means to shame Jewish people, treat their suffering as conditional, and smear them as having less moral standing now. This is classic, core anti-semitism.

This is just ONE of the absolutely repugnant things you have said. I'm not even going to dignify the rest of your bile with any analysis, and I only respond to you now for this to stand in the thread as a whole.

And of course you're 'not scared to be labelled' as anti-semitic - you seem very proud of it. As you know well, criticism of the Israeli state does not, in and of itself, equate to anti-semitism, but it often does tip into it, and it's a well-worn tactic for anti-semites to squawk about 'it's ok to criticise Israel' as a cover for what they're really all about.

I was really enjoying this thread until it turned into a ranty, mudslinging bunfight. Anyone else reading this will clearly see how unproductive it is and that none of you seem to be able to argue constructively or see things from another perspective. It's hardly surprising that groups of people can decide that they hate one another. I despair.

BunfightBetty · 12/02/2026 12:50

DuchessofStaffordshire · 12/02/2026 12:41

I was really enjoying this thread until it turned into a ranty, mudslinging bunfight. Anyone else reading this will clearly see how unproductive it is and that none of you seem to be able to argue constructively or see things from another perspective. It's hardly surprising that groups of people can decide that they hate one another. I despair.

I was really enjoying the thread too, untill I came across numerous posts of anti-Semitic hate. I share your despair that enjoyable threads can be tainted in this way. But you do you, and follow your own values, but I can’t let that stand without comment.

I’m not sure why you singled me out for your comment, rather than the racist poster?

FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 12/02/2026 12:52

DuchessofStaffordshire · 12/02/2026 12:41

I was really enjoying this thread until it turned into a ranty, mudslinging bunfight. Anyone else reading this will clearly see how unproductive it is and that none of you seem to be able to argue constructively or see things from another perspective. It's hardly surprising that groups of people can decide that they hate one another. I despair.

Talk to the person who came on making an antisemitic rant then.

Im afraid im the type of person who calls racism out, no exceptions

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