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Whyandwhenandwho · 02/11/2025 09:36

Stabbing turns out to be terror related or in a similar vein to incident to recent incidents that were related to immigration ? We don't know the identities yet of the perpetrators. But the fact the Home Secretary is brought in to comment in tabloids and the discussion on LK on BBC today makes me worried its a possibility. The poor people on the train - I cannot even imagine .. ..Starmer needs to tackle knife crime as its rife. What is the answer ? When is there a tipping point ? I don't know but something must be done - I've never paid as much attention other than feeling so terribly sorry for any victims and families. Now I'm starting to get angry when I see anything like this

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jlooy · 02/11/2025 11:11

localnotail · 02/11/2025 11:10

Nutter who killed people in Nottingham? Another nutter who stabbed a lot of people in London few years back? Or the one who stabbed two sisters in a park in London? None terrorist related.

they were all lone nutters. This is different as it’s two people. Unusual.

luckylavender · 02/11/2025 11:12

GentleSheep · 02/11/2025 10:47

Police conference is denying it was terrorism and is pushing that the suspects were British nationals.

Your tone suggests doubt. Or even that you wanted a different outcome

TheRedOrca · 02/11/2025 11:12

Biscuitsneeded · 02/11/2025 11:10

If everyone on this thread who was so quick to apportion blame could just take a minute to go through the thread and replace the word 'Muslim' with 'Jew', and then reflect on what that reminds you of, I'd like to think that might give some of of you pause. Farage and his chums are manipulating you, and you are falling right into their hands. Don't let our once-tolerant country become like Nazi Germany, and have one race taking the blame for all of society's ills.
The knife attack is shocking, frightening and awful. We don't know yet who were the perpetrators or what was their agenda, but the latest report suggests they are British-born and not of Asian origin. So put your hate away, express your sorrow and compassion for the victims, and stop peddling lies.

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But Jews don't believe in the slaughter of other religions

hamstersarse · 02/11/2025 11:12

TruckDiver · 02/11/2025 11:10

According to the police it was two black British men and not terror related. That's all we know. We don't know their religion or anything else about their motive. I suppose it could have been gang/drugs related, or a million other possibilities. The police are absolutely right not to release information until they are certain it's correct, particularly given the knife-edge sensitivities of much of society at the moment (hence the widespread jumping to conclusions, by bigots so confident in their bigotry that it will hardly even register with them, let alone make any difference, that they were wrong).

So how about everybody calm the fuck down and let the police do their job. That's what we pay them for.

They actually said "one black British man" and "one man of Caribean descent" and did not say black

Make of that what you will.

EasternStandard · 02/11/2025 11:12

localnotail · 02/11/2025 11:10

Nutter who killed people in Nottingham? Another nutter who stabbed a lot of people in London few years back? Or the one who stabbed two sisters in a park in London? None terrorist related.

@HRTQueen said two men

PreMenstrualAwful · 02/11/2025 11:12

Dollymylove · 02/11/2025 11:10

So two British born blokes randomly decide to board a train and start slashing people with knives and its not a terror attack?
Sorry I don't buy it. Less than 24 hours is not enough time to delve into the reasons why this happened

must have been a hive mind MH episode confined to just 2 individuals then!

3peepsand4paws · 02/11/2025 11:12

TheRedOrca · 02/11/2025 11:10

3peepsand4paws

Please come back when they find out the religion of these perps

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I know you're hoping so hard for a nice bit of confirmation bias dopamine.
It's ok, I suppose we all need a hobby.

BackToLurk · 02/11/2025 11:12

winterbluess · 02/11/2025 11:09

Which part?

All of it.

TruckDiver · 02/11/2025 11:12

Dollymylove · 02/11/2025 11:10

So two British born blokes randomly decide to board a train and start slashing people with knives and its not a terror attack?
Sorry I don't buy it. Less than 24 hours is not enough time to delve into the reasons why this happened

Then how come you've just told us what you do and don't "buy" about the reasons why it's happened?

localnotail · 02/11/2025 11:12

jlooy · 02/11/2025 11:11

they were all lone nutters. This is different as it’s two people. Unusual.

Like I said, eye witnesses said only one of them had a "large knife". But yes, totally weird and unusual, I agree.

My heart goes out to the people still in hospital and their families.

Boohoo76 · 02/11/2025 11:13

PastaAllaNorma · 02/11/2025 11:00

What the heck do some Muslim men's misogyny have to do with a massive stabbing by two Black British men in their 30s?

I was responding to a post about prejudice against Muslims as you well know.

luckylavender · 02/11/2025 11:13

TheRedOrca · 02/11/2025 11:10

3peepsand4paws

Please come back when they find out the religion of these perps

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You probably mean perps

WeCouldBeNiceToEachOther · 02/11/2025 11:13

hamstersarse · 02/11/2025 11:12

They actually said "one black British man" and "one man of Caribean descent" and did not say black

Make of that what you will.

The way I read that is he was mixed race.

they’re both British citizens.

cottonwoolie · 02/11/2025 11:14

If everyone on this thread who was so quick to apportion blame could just take a minute to go through the thread and replace the word 'Muslim' with 'Jew', and then reflect on what that reminds you of, I'd like to think that might give some of of you pause

This doesn't make sense. Recent UK terror threats have been committed by islamic terrorists. If buddhists were responsible for attacks people would assume it was a buddhist.

LavenderBlue19 · 02/11/2025 11:14

attichoarder · 02/11/2025 11:09

I think we should like some other countries have greater security at train stations. I think ID cards should be inace so that people need to produce this when buying tickets. I have thought this for a long time and this incident makes me believe this even more.

And how would tourists buy train tickets? Just think for two seconds before posting such xenophobic rubbish, please.

Anyway, the men arrested are British nationals, so how would that help?

HRTQueen · 02/11/2025 11:15

SlothMama14 · 02/11/2025 11:09

How do you know they were random strangers and not known to the attackers?

Because of what was reported on the BBC and listening to accounts of witnesses

TheRedOrca · 02/11/2025 11:16

luckylavender · 02/11/2025 11:13

You probably mean perps

😂corrected

freakingscared · 02/11/2025 11:16

Biscuitsneeded · 02/11/2025 11:10

If everyone on this thread who was so quick to apportion blame could just take a minute to go through the thread and replace the word 'Muslim' with 'Jew', and then reflect on what that reminds you of, I'd like to think that might give some of of you pause. Farage and his chums are manipulating you, and you are falling right into their hands. Don't let our once-tolerant country become like Nazi Germany, and have one race taking the blame for all of society's ills.
The knife attack is shocking, frightening and awful. We don't know yet who were the perpetrators or what was their agenda, but the latest report suggests they are British-born and not of Asian origin. So put your hate away, express your sorrow and compassion for the victims, and stop peddling lies.

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I agree with you but this sort of mentality also doesn’t help . Certain groups are more prone to certain crimes , it’s the case with knife crimes being more common among black men ( before you start screaming racism , I’m married and have children with a mixed race black man ) . I think openly discuss these issues and similar as Pakistani men abusing women and young girls in large number compared to others etc needs to be done . Refusing to discuss things and hiding under the racism and xenophobic umbrella is what’s fuelling people voting for reform and other scum like them

SlothMama14 · 02/11/2025 11:16

If it does turn out to be county lines related, I wonder how many middle class white people who love to shove coke up their noses at weekends will admit their guilt in the part they play in fuelling the gang culture around drugs?

MyNimbleBrickCritic · 02/11/2025 11:16

localnotail · 02/11/2025 11:12

Like I said, eye witnesses said only one of them had a "large knife". But yes, totally weird and unusual, I agree.

My heart goes out to the people still in hospital and their families.

2 people charged with attempted murder.

The Police and the CPS have enough information to charge both.

TheCurious0range · 02/11/2025 11:16

Greenwitchart · 02/11/2025 11:04

I don't get the gang members angle.

They usually attack fellow gang members and they would have to be very daft to do it in a packed train where they know full well they will be filmed and inevitably caught.

Makes zero sense.

That isn't the full picture though, not too far from where I live there were two groups of lads swinging machetes at each other on the seafront in daylight mid summer, no serious injuries because police intervened in time but it was horrific. I can easily see how one gang attacks another on a train, passers by try to intervene to stop people being stabbed and get stabbed themselves.

Itv news link below.

https://youtube.com/shorts/cuihugNmRRg?si=-f5j1P0pGM5pvk6B

TheRedOrca · 02/11/2025 11:16

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PreMenstrualAwful · 02/11/2025 11:16

SlothMama14 · 02/11/2025 11:16

If it does turn out to be county lines related, I wonder how many middle class white people who love to shove coke up their noses at weekends will admit their guilt in the part they play in fuelling the gang culture around drugs?

I really doubt it is county lines. Or even just regular gang related.

WeCouldBeNiceToEachOther · 02/11/2025 11:17

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Do you hear yourself?

Boohoo76 · 02/11/2025 11:17

childofthe607080s · 02/11/2025 11:00

There are problems amongst some groups of rich white men also

I’ve never been told that I am not entitled to be educated by a rich white man, I have never been made fearful for my safety by a rich white taxi driver.

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