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Whyandwhenandwho · 02/11/2025 09:36

Stabbing turns out to be terror related or in a similar vein to incident to recent incidents that were related to immigration ? We don't know the identities yet of the perpetrators. But the fact the Home Secretary is brought in to comment in tabloids and the discussion on LK on BBC today makes me worried its a possibility. The poor people on the train - I cannot even imagine .. ..Starmer needs to tackle knife crime as its rife. What is the answer ? When is there a tipping point ? I don't know but something must be done - I've never paid as much attention other than feeling so terribly sorry for any victims and families. Now I'm starting to get angry when I see anything like this

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Catterbat · 02/11/2025 11:17

What needs to be ‘done’ is addressing why every time something bad happens, an increasing number of people assume it’s down to immigrants. The direction that’s leading us in is far more dangerous than catching a train to work.

Biscuitsneeded · 02/11/2025 11:17

TheRedOrca · 02/11/2025 11:12

But Jews don't believe in the slaughter of other religions

No decent-thinking person does, and no religion promotes this.

There are extremists who nominally belong to all religions and wrongly hide behind that religion to commit atrocities, but it's dangerous and honestly quite stupid and ill-informed to claim that Islam supports slaughter of other religions. What sort of social media rubbish have you been reading?

Doris86 · 02/11/2025 11:19

PrincessOfPreschool · 02/11/2025 09:59

There was a stabbing down the road from me a couple of days ago, I think resulting in death. It's received no media attention probably because it wasn't an immigrant or under 18 year old. It happens all the time, it's just a few cases which get all the attention and wind everyone up.

Can you really not see why a random
mass stabbing of 10 people on a train, gets more media attention than a single one off stabbing?

I never understand why the Police come out and say it’s not terror related. They did the same with Southport. Whatever their motivation , if a deliberate mass stabbing of people isn’t ‘terror’ then what is?

dapsnotplimsolls · 02/11/2025 11:20

The flag-shaggers must be gutted.

Lalgarh · 02/11/2025 11:20

cottonwoolie · 02/11/2025 11:14

If everyone on this thread who was so quick to apportion blame could just take a minute to go through the thread and replace the word 'Muslim' with 'Jew', and then reflect on what that reminds you of, I'd like to think that might give some of of you pause

This doesn't make sense. Recent UK terror threats have been committed by islamic terrorists. If buddhists were responsible for attacks people would assume it was a buddhist.

There's Muslim as a member of a faith group, and there is Islamism which is a political movement isn't there?

And judging by progressive discourse online, if instead of demonizing Jewish people you'd used the word "Zionist"...

WeCouldBeNiceToEachOther · 02/11/2025 11:20

Remember after the incident at the Liverpool parade everyone was saying this, and then the pictures of him came out and he was actually a white guy? All of a sudden everyone was trying to find excuses for why he’d do that, as opposed to being disgusted.

EasternStandard · 02/11/2025 11:20

Doris86 · 02/11/2025 11:19

Can you really not see why a random
mass stabbing of 10 people on a train, gets more media attention than a single one off stabbing?

I never understand why the Police come out and say it’s not terror related. They did the same with Southport. Whatever their motivation , if a deliberate mass stabbing of people isn’t ‘terror’ then what is?

Yes it certainly feels like it and stokes terror.

WeCouldBeNiceToEachOther · 02/11/2025 11:21

dapsnotplimsolls · 02/11/2025 11:20

The flag-shaggers must be gutted.

My parents watch GB news (sadly) and you can actually hear the deflation in their tone

Shudacudawuda · 02/11/2025 11:21

Catterbat · 02/11/2025 11:17

What needs to be ‘done’ is addressing why every time something bad happens, an increasing number of people assume it’s down to immigrants. The direction that’s leading us in is far more dangerous than catching a train to work.

Well I think things like the mass cover up of the rape gangs operating throughout the country hasn't helped.
Perhaps if there was more honesty around these things people wouldn't be so quick to believe the worst when something else happens. As it stands, the lies have created an environment where some now pin everything on one section of society and won't believe it if told its not true. With good reason.

Lalgarh · 02/11/2025 11:21

EasternStandard · 02/11/2025 11:20

Yes it certainly feels like it and stokes terror.

The point of terrorism is to terrorise

BufferingAgain · 02/11/2025 11:22

They all do belong to one group: blokes. If only we could put more funding and resources into research on what makes men commit these crimes and not women, put boys into some kind of extra programs after school or something. I know it’s not as easy as all that but there’s very clearly one group that has issues

childofthe607080s · 02/11/2025 11:22

Boohoo76 · 02/11/2025 11:17

I’ve never been told that I am not entitled to be educated by a rich white man, I have never been made fearful for my safety by a rich white taxi driver.

Bully for you
although I have so ….

rich white men are abusing women daily in case you hadn’t read the news

no one should face abuse and no one should be protected from prosecution but to stereotype is wrong as is turning a blind eye to the prevalence of abuse all round

AnareticDegree · 02/11/2025 11:22

If you get on a busy train waving a large knife, you are a terrorist.

If you get on a full train and have no legal right to be on that train you must be returned to where you do have a legal right to be.

It's not about race or immigration so why do people want another 997 posts about it?

Surely OP, the question should be what will Starmer do about rampant knife crime full stop.

WeCouldBeNiceToEachOther · 02/11/2025 11:22

Doris86 · 02/11/2025 11:19

Can you really not see why a random
mass stabbing of 10 people on a train, gets more media attention than a single one off stabbing?

I never understand why the Police come out and say it’s not terror related. They did the same with Southport. Whatever their motivation , if a deliberate mass stabbing of people isn’t ‘terror’ then what is?

Your fundamental misunderstanding of what terrorism is, isn’t the fault of the police.

Imdunfer · 02/11/2025 11:22

Biscuitsneeded · 02/11/2025 11:17

No decent-thinking person does, and no religion promotes this.

There are extremists who nominally belong to all religions and wrongly hide behind that religion to commit atrocities, but it's dangerous and honestly quite stupid and ill-informed to claim that Islam supports slaughter of other religions. What sort of social media rubbish have you been reading?

I'm not sure you know enough facts about Islam.

WeCouldBeNiceToEachOther · 02/11/2025 11:22

AnareticDegree · 02/11/2025 11:22

If you get on a busy train waving a large knife, you are a terrorist.

If you get on a full train and have no legal right to be on that train you must be returned to where you do have a legal right to be.

It's not about race or immigration so why do people want another 997 posts about it?

Surely OP, the question should be what will Starmer do about rampant knife crime full stop.

No, you’re not.

attichoarder · 02/11/2025 11:23

LavenderBlue19 · 02/11/2025 11:14

And how would tourists buy train tickets? Just think for two seconds before posting such xenophobic rubbish, please.

Anyway, the men arrested are British nationals, so how would that help?

Tourists have passports and that what happens in other countries - it's not xenophobic rubbish as you put it.

Boohoo76 · 02/11/2025 11:24

childofthe607080s · 02/11/2025 11:22

Bully for you
although I have so ….

rich white men are abusing women daily in case you hadn’t read the news

no one should face abuse and no one should be protected from prosecution but to stereotype is wrong as is turning a blind eye to the prevalence of abuse all round

No one said that rich white men don’t abuse women, but there is a problem amongst some groups of Muslims. People like you are part of the problem.

lifeturnsonadime · 02/11/2025 11:24

If two people have co-ordinated a mass stabbing on a train why is that NOT defined as an act of terrorism?

cottonwoolie · 02/11/2025 11:24

If you get on a busy train waving a large knife, you are a terrorist

No only if your motive is terrorism. You might be a robber, a psychopath, off your head on your drugs.

Sparklesandspandexgallore · 02/11/2025 11:25

Whatever the race or religion of these men- and lo and behold it’s men- not women, it is a disgusting and hideous crime they have committed.
I could have been on that train minding my own business. I do not for one second believe that those who were stabbed were targeted individuals.
Such an appalling thing to do.
Well done to the police and other emergency services for their swift action.
Well done to the staff and fellow passengers too.
Lord knows how the passengers must feel after witnessing this.
Also hoping all those involved recover well.

EasternStandard · 02/11/2025 11:25

WeCouldBeNiceToEachOther · 02/11/2025 11:22

Your fundamental misunderstanding of what terrorism is, isn’t the fault of the police.

Why post like this, is it to feel better. It’s rational to question whether something that terrorises should be known as such.

MyNimbleBrickCritic · 02/11/2025 11:25

Biscuitsneeded · 02/11/2025 11:17

No decent-thinking person does, and no religion promotes this.

There are extremists who nominally belong to all religions and wrongly hide behind that religion to commit atrocities, but it's dangerous and honestly quite stupid and ill-informed to claim that Islam supports slaughter of other religions. What sort of social media rubbish have you been reading?

That's a daft post.

If Islam doesn't believe in it then why are so many Muslim men committing atrocities on the daily world-wide based on their Religious teachings?

If it's not based in their Religion and specifically approved in the Koran you should let them all know since you seem to know better than them 🙄

I don't believe most Muslims are terrorists or support terrorism but it's baseless and patronising to say it isn't supported by Religious doctrine when it 100% is.

KateBAnd3 · 02/11/2025 11:25

Catterbat · 02/11/2025 11:17

What needs to be ‘done’ is addressing why every time something bad happens, an increasing number of people assume it’s down to immigrants. The direction that’s leading us in is far more dangerous than catching a train to work.

1000 times this. There were numerous people on the original thread calling for migrant boats to be bombed out of the water in response to a knife attack on a train. It’s horrifying how normalised this level of racism and toxicity has become.

DBSFstupid · 02/11/2025 11:25

snughugs · 02/11/2025 10:19

Unfortunately you can’t say anything or have an opinion. It’s been going like that for a while. I suppose when stabbing and terrorist occur on a weekly/daily basis enough people on the left may feel this is enough. It probably be too late already. I wonder what history will say about this? I don’t think they’ll be calling the people wanting a protected border racist . May be these things happen so we can learn from history.

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