What will Starmer do if Huntingdon...

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Stabbing turns out to be terror related or in a similar vein to incident to recent incidents that were related to immigration ? We don't know the identities yet of the perpetrators. But the fact the Home Secretary is brought in to comment in tabloids and the discussion on LK on BBC today makes me worried its a possibility. The poor people on the train - I cannot even imagine .. ..Starmer needs to tackle knife crime as its rife. What is the answer ? When is there a tipping point ? I don't know but something must be done - I've never paid as much attention other than feeling so terribly sorry for any victims and families. Now I'm starting to get angry when I see anything like this

My neighbours are Afghan refugees. They are lovely, hardworking respectful people. I couldn’t ask for better neighbours. I image they were very upset by people painting flags on roundabouts and hanging them from lampposts.

Since when are we allowed to speculate about things like that on Mumsnet? Isn’t that risking contempt of court?

Reported.

Never heard of it it didn't even make the news. I think we can say yes it was unpleasant, yes those who did it need arresting but no not an atrocity as no one was harmed.

Don't let history and facts get in the way of poster's prejudice.

The flags that appeared on lampposts on our daughter’s estate were pretty frightening. She hadn’t known she was living among racists. (They weren’t just flags, bugger all to do with rugby or whatever: they had Stop the boats printed over the flags in capitals).
Thankfully, majority of residents were appalled and took them down.

I'm sure they are more thick skinned to be upset by flags on lampposts. I imagine they've experienced actual horrors in Afghanistan.

I’m not comparing anything. I was replying to this comment. Or, scared 'little people' sick and tired of these frequent atrocities that are usuallycaused by people with fucked up ideologies. We aren't allowed to say that though because the government tells us to be quiet.

I was saying that I don’t like the fucked up ideologies that results in people vandalising public property.

It’s not relevant to the events on the train in the same way that ‘these frequent atrocities caused by people with fucked up ideologies’ isn’t. We don’t know what the reason for this was all we know is it was committed by two British nationals.

What will Starmer do? Probably go off to Isreal or to visit the USA or the Ukraine because they are not calling him 'Never here Kier' for nothing.

What has Starmer done about the Cost of Living crisis? Nothing.

Maybe everyone wouldn't be going crazy if they had better lives. I am beginning to think for some a lifetime in prison seems like an attractive alternative (three hot meals a day, accommodation, etc).

Wow.

Someone decided they wanted to burn a few dozen people alive and you don't consider that an atrocity. Just. Wow.

You have no idea of their mental state after those horrors. A clear sign that they are not welcome here would obviously be distressing, to anyone with decency and a conscience, anyway.

So you would be perfectly happy bringing up your children knowing that some people in your neighbourhood hate you and would have you deported given half a chance?

Our two were born in the UK, they live in Sweden, they have Swedish passports as they’re Swedish citizens, why would they not be Swedish?

Who are you, the thought police?

How exactly is it risking contempt of court? Please explain.

Do you apply this to arrests in every criminal case which is in the news and therefore discussed.

Pathetic attempt to shut down discussion.

😂no one is ashamed on here. What about you though

It’s pretty clear from this and other threads that the residents of those hotels aren’t considered even as people by some posters.

Just the opposite, these are important facts, just as any other facts related to the crime

What has this poster to be ashamed of?

When one of our dc was at uni, they were in the minority in one session where students talked openly with disdain about westerners. It works both ways.

I used to work in the ME, the nationals could be quite snooty about westerners. What you do is engage with people you do not get full of hatred and go round attacking folk. Local flags were often flying, so what! I coped.

For several hundred years Britain and other rich European nations made their way round the world conquering other lands, taking their assets and forcing their residents to buy European products. In the earlier centuries the inhabitants were enslaved and forcibly deported to other territories. They were treated like second-class citizens and their own languages, religons and culture were often suppressed. Now we see their descendants attempting to move to richer countries in search of better lives, and suddenly national sovereignty is all important and they have no right to come here because they don't share the same heritage as the majority population. Incredible double standards at work.

Who is this who is trying to stop the discussion posting every so often to tell others how horrible it is to be curious about the nationality and ethnicity of the criminal perpetrator? If you don't like logic and facts but all you are interested that you never anything ever related to your particular favourite skin colour, just stay off line

Not actually true. My husband was born in Africa to two British parents, therefore he's British. He's been joking recently that if Farage gets in he'll probably be deported!!!!

Stay offline, put some romantic movie involving all skin colours and live in some off line utopia. Some people here try to be informed as to deal with real life

The astonishing levels of racism on this thread.

I'm going to put my money where my mouth is and log out of Mumsnet.

It was fun, but not sure I'm very interested in the views of the sort of twisted up ideologues who clearly frequent these boards. Logic and decency elude them.

They haven’t charged them yet. They won’t release names until they have charged someone.

It would be absolutely the same for a white suspect.

The only time names are released before charges are made is when they haven’t got the suspect in custody and they name people of interest to help catch them.

The police have got a short window to question the suspects, the witnesses, gather and examine evidence. Be absolutely sure they have the right person/ people. Try to get a confession. Try to find out if it’s a one off event or part of something bigger.

They make any mistakes in these early days they risk not getting a successful prosecution or even worse missing more attacks.

It’s been less than 24 hours. I can’t believe people really believe the suspects are being protected because of their race.

as a Balkan, having the same nationality as many others but historically having dealt with various ethnicities within the country, this conversation is interesting to me, given another country and another , though very similar context. We still have free speech left. Wether someone dislikes that