What will Starmer do if Huntingdon...

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Stabbing turns out to be terror related or in a similar vein to incident to recent incidents that were related to immigration ? We don't know the identities yet of the perpetrators. But the fact the Home Secretary is brought in to comment in tabloids and the discussion on LK on BBC today makes me worried its a possibility. The poor people on the train - I cannot even imagine .. ..Starmer needs to tackle knife crime as its rife. What is the answer ? When is there a tipping point ? I don't know but something must be done - I've never paid as much attention other than feeling so terribly sorry for any victims and families. Now I'm starting to get angry when I see anything like this

Police said the 32-year-old man is a black British national and the 35-year-old is a British national of Caribbean descent.

Per the BBC

Yes, but a Reform government will lower taxes and improve public services by introducing Doge UK, which will save billions of pounds. Apparently.

Psychosis is by far the most common. I have never heard of two suspects timing their psychosis and for them both to feel the urge to kill innocent people, it sounds incredibly unlikely and not especially plausible.

It’s just as possible the British nationals have been radicalised.

Do we know the two people were working together? No. We know there were two people. One could have been having a psychotic episode and the other could have been a friend trying to stop him. Just because they’ve both been arrested it doesn’t mean they both did it.

Stop and search who? Anyone with brown skin?

For crying out loud the police have said it’s not terror related!!!!

We don't even know what the charges will be.

Two people were arrested for the Soham murders but only one was actually charged with murder.

I guess that's another crime that "didn't happen" in the past. Like Dunblane. Or Whitehaven. What was different about the perpetrators I wonder?

This doesn’t fit their narrative so they’re not interested

And both born in Britain. I listened to the Press Conference.

And if you sell off the NHS then we can easily afford more police. Silly me.

You have a strong narrative based on pretty much nothing, why?

I was replying to the OP who was suggesting that British born is all we knew about their backgrounds

It’s just as possible the British nationals have been radicalised.

Do people think the police would lie? If they say it's not terror related then surely we should be able to accept that? People who don't want to believe that will believe what they want anyway.

You can have a mental health condition which isn’t psychosis which could lead to violence. Paranoia, for example.
Not speculating that’s what it is, we have no idea. But violence from MH conditions doesn’t necessarily mean psychosis.

My apologies too if I came across badly. Which it seems I did.

I was responding to all the posts claiming 'nothing to do with immigration, they're British' when its much more complex than that when we've already been told the men arrested aren't White-British.

When we know that race and immigration increases the risk of radicalisation and disparities in virtually everything we can think of in regards to socio-economic status and lived experiences.

They won’t know that yet. They will have days if not weeks of investigations to do first. They will have to trawl through mountains of digital evidence alone, house searches and work places ( if they have jobs) and a long long list of other avenues to build a case, and establish a motive.

In fairness I think they said there’s nothing to indicate it’s terror related.
I agree with your point though.

They said “at this stage”.

Still could be anything, really, and we won’t know until the police themselves say more.

It can be drug induced.

So two men with paranoia? A mass stabbing due to this.

Why do people say nonsense like this? Name any recent Prime Minister who would have responded differently. What do you do to try to make the world a better place, by the way?

Yes it’s all one great conspiracy and all the brown people are nasty rotten terrorists and we should shut our borders immediately

(sarcasm, for those who can’t tell)

We have no idea of the perpetrators' heritage other than that they were both black. For all we know, their parents were of the Windrush generation. Your statement sounds a bit 'you're not from around here, are you?'.

And obviously stabbing people isn't compatible with any kind of civilisation, but beyond that we don't know that these two people were into any kind sof 'practices'.

Nowhere has it been said both men did the attacking. By all accounts only one had a knife

Yes nothing to suggest is the line.