What will Starmer do if Huntingdon...

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Stabbing turns out to be terror related or in a similar vein to incident to recent incidents that were related to immigration ? We don't know the identities yet of the perpetrators. But the fact the Home Secretary is brought in to comment in tabloids and the discussion on LK on BBC today makes me worried its a possibility. The poor people on the train - I cannot even imagine .. ..Starmer needs to tackle knife crime as its rife. What is the answer ? When is there a tipping point ? I don't know but something must be done - I've never paid as much attention other than feeling so terribly sorry for any victims and families. Now I'm starting to get angry when I see anything like this

But they’re not patriotic are they?

Because none of what police says is to be trusted ? They also said the same on previous terrorist attacks . Religion is a must in this case band cause Islamic crimes are the norm in the U.K. when it comes to terrorist art aks in the uk . This is not racist or xenophobic it’s a fact

That was different to two individuals storming a train and randomly trying to stab as many people as possible though.

Why not he deserves it.

Both British. One of Caribbean descent, the other a Black British national. It implies the one of Caribbean descent is of mixed heritage.

The police are saying it's not terror-related.

Maybe we should wait for more information before speculating about motives.

“Nothing to suggest it was terror related" is a bad choice of words by the police. The act caused terror.

They need to qualify that with "nothing to suggest it was extremism-related terror".

I don’t think they need to qualify - as others have said, terrorism isn’t simply an act that causes terror. It needs to have a political, religious or ideological motive to be classed as terrorism.

Yes but he needs to act. We need accountability and action. If the government and police genuinely don’t know of a motive yet then they need to be honest. Starmer needs to get police out on the streets immediately. Today. A visible presence and armed with tasers. Knife crime is out of hand anyway and it will take a long time to tackle. Any potential terrorist threats too will be something you cant deal with overnight but what he can do is get police out there.

I've never known a PM be so BLAMED for everything!

Certainly didn't happen with that useless Twat Boris.

I'm not saying Starmer is doing a stellar job but FFS, some of you would blame him when you stubbed your feckin toe 🙄

Why? Who has he stabbed ?

who isn’t?

Jesus Christ. I actually can’t cope with some people

They need to qualify that with "nothing to suggest it was extremism-related terror".

They don't because in this context they mean the same thing.

Virtually every accident/crime invokes terror because it is terrifying to have your life threatened.

The idiots running through the streets with flags draped across them, vandalising their local areas and shouting for everyone to go home.

Yes we are, or the famous old phrases "isolated incident" and "no threat to the wider population" need to be trundled out.

If they don't know whether there are other gang members/supporters/enablers/sympathisers, they must say so.

Yes, I agree and unnerving to think about how those poor people got on a train for a normal every day journey and had to face this extreme violence!

There was essentially zero ‘immigration’ to Britain from the Norman Conquest in 1066, until the arrival of the French Huguenots - and there were fewer French Huguenots in total than people who now emigrate to the UK in a single month.

This idea that everyone in Britain is an immigrant is utterly ridiculous - it’s an imported Americanism that makes no sense whatsoever in our country, which was renowned throughout Europe for centuries for its settled population.

I am white British and I am not an immigrant, nor am I the child of an immigrant.

I said nothing about deporting anyone.

We know from the research and statistics that being an immigrant, or a 2nd or 3rd generation increases the risk of radicalisation, serious mental illness, physical illness, poverty, poor educational achievements, experiences of racism and discrimination just to pluck out a few poorer outcomes.

THE. TORIES. FUCKED. US.

Nobody on Earth, ESPECIALLY Farage, could sort this shitshow out in a decade, never mind 4 years!

Any potential terrorist threats too will be something you cant deal with overnight but what he can do is get police out there.

Are there enough police to get them out there?

No, we’re not.

If this was premeditated, it was pretty poor planning. Peterborough and Huntingdon are really close together. A large police presence was there within minutes. The station is less than a mile from a hospital and a fire and rescue centre. There are so many other places on that train line that are much more isolated and that the police would have taken much longer to get to. If you wanted to do maximum damage, that is not the best location.

I think I have seen reports that the attackers got on at Peterborough, and the attack started very soon after. At first I thought it was unlikely to be gang/drug related, given the scale of casualties, but I am not convinced now.

I will be interested in after reading several of the eye witness statements on x. They only state one black man boarding at Peterborough station on his own. It’s hard to trust the media after they told us about the non terrorist attacker who was a Welsh born lad, we know now there was far more to this story of the young lad who committed a dreadful act in Southport. I wonder where the second man came into it? I don’t feel complete trust in what we are being told, may that’s wrong but let’s see. If they have done similar misleading like they did with the Southport case I will be disgusted but not at all surprised.

Why so wedded to Labour and Starmer at this point? Most can see they’re doing badly.

Well I never see any unless it’s ’cuppa with a copper’ at the local cafe so anything would be an improvement.

That is what the police investigations and subsequent court cases will establish. You expect the police to give you the full outcome of their investigations in under 24 hours?