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MO0N · 23/11/2025 12:48

I see that trump has started to dress like Mamdani, I wonder if he's going to dye his hair black and then black facial hair 😄

CaveMum · 23/11/2025 14:35

Trumps now whining about lack of gratitude from Ukraine again.

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TokyoSushi · 23/11/2025 16:51

The whole thing is just mad, as we know.

There’s a burglar (Russia) in your house (Ukraine) a third party (US) says you need to ‘make a deal’ with the burglar, and the deal is that you give them everything that they’ve already taken, and a little bit more, and your minerals, and you need to put a cap (determined by the burglar) on how many of your family can defend you if the burglar comes back (they will) and you can never ever ask your neighbours for help. Furthermore, you should be very grateful for this amazing deal, it’s crazy that you haven’t accepted it already, and if you don’t accept it, by Thursday, then the main person who was helping you, won’t help you any more. Also, wear a suit please whilst accepting this deal. Bonkers.

All that really should happen is that the burglar should get TF out, and give back everything that they’ve taken, but no, this is on you, and you’re being very difficult if you don’t accept it.

logicisall · 23/11/2025 17:21

Perfectly summarised @TokyoSushi !

SerendipityJane · 23/11/2025 17:43

TokyoSushi · 23/11/2025 16:51

The whole thing is just mad, as we know.

There’s a burglar (Russia) in your house (Ukraine) a third party (US) says you need to ‘make a deal’ with the burglar, and the deal is that you give them everything that they’ve already taken, and a little bit more, and your minerals, and you need to put a cap (determined by the burglar) on how many of your family can defend you if the burglar comes back (they will) and you can never ever ask your neighbours for help. Furthermore, you should be very grateful for this amazing deal, it’s crazy that you haven’t accepted it already, and if you don’t accept it, by Thursday, then the main person who was helping you, won’t help you any more. Also, wear a suit please whilst accepting this deal. Bonkers.

All that really should happen is that the burglar should get TF out, and give back everything that they’ve taken, but no, this is on you, and you’re being very difficult if you don’t accept it.

You would have thought that Europe - of all continents - would remember how paying the Dane geld ends.

placemats · 23/11/2025 18:20

logicisall · 23/11/2025 17:21

Perfectly summarised @TokyoSushi !

Agree. It's not a peace agreement.

Spandauer · 23/11/2025 18:30

Trump and his expert amateur negotiators are a sick joke. It's a never-ending Groundhog Day nightmare for the Ukrainians - the US constantly giving with one hand and then taking away with the other. (Kafka would be proud)

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TokyoSushi · 23/11/2025 18:33

Of course it’s not, it’s a stitch up. Why should there be a peace ‘agreement’ anyway? The attacker is in the wrong and just needs to stop.

placemats · 23/11/2025 19:06

If a country invades twice and annexes a part of it, then that country should not be at the forefront of the peace deal. Them's the rules - WW1 and WW2.

SerendipityJane · 24/11/2025 11:13

logicisall · 23/11/2025 22:22

Latest news on the Trump peace plan for Ukraine

https://www.thetimes.com/world/russia-ukraine-war/article/ukraine-russia-war-peace-plan-latest-news-kbkwhh07n

I hate how the US is always seeking to humiliate Zelensky and therefore Ukraine, by making him say thanks and positive things about Trump.

I wonder how far down the list "assassinating Trump and making it look like the Russians did it" is on the Ukraine brainstorming map ?

DuncinToffee · 24/11/2025 11:43

Doge has been abandoned ahead of schedule....

SerendipityJane · 24/11/2025 11:57

DuncinToffee · 24/11/2025 11:43

Doge has been abandoned ahead of schedule....

Presumably they reached the event horizon of greed.

Also aren't tariffs being rolled back as a "tremendous success" ?

CaveMum · 24/11/2025 14:26

Interesting from BBC Verify: X have made it possible to view the locations of accounts. They’ve looked at a number of vocal pro-Trump accounts and found one with more than 1 million followers, and claiming to have voted Trump in 2024, is based in Nigeria and another with 500,000 followers, and which Trump himself has retweeted, is based in India.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cd6xyjj0gnjt

BBC Verify Live: X is now showing where accounts are based - will that help tackle disinformation?

Latest updates from the BBC's specialists in fact-checking, verifying video and tackling disinformation.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cd6xyjj0gnjt

walllaw · 24/11/2025 14:39

DuncinToffee · 24/11/2025 11:43

Doge has been abandoned ahead of schedule....

Well yes, now that they've initiated the deaths of at least hundreds of thousands, and Musk et al have stolen all the data they need, time to move on.

walllaw · 24/11/2025 14:40

CaveMum · 24/11/2025 14:26

Interesting from BBC Verify: X have made it possible to view the locations of accounts. They’ve looked at a number of vocal pro-Trump accounts and found one with more than 1 million followers, and claiming to have voted Trump in 2024, is based in Nigeria and another with 500,000 followers, and which Trump himself has retweeted, is based in India.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cd6xyjj0gnjt

Yup. I wonder how long they'll keep that feature?

SerendipityJane · 24/11/2025 14:47

CaveMum · 24/11/2025 14:26

Interesting from BBC Verify: X have made it possible to view the locations of accounts. They’ve looked at a number of vocal pro-Trump accounts and found one with more than 1 million followers, and claiming to have voted Trump in 2024, is based in Nigeria and another with 500,000 followers, and which Trump himself has retweeted, is based in India.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cd6xyjj0gnjt

Why in the name of all that is holy would I start to trust X now ?

The open criticism of Trump by some GOP is interesting. It wouldn't have happened 3 months ago.

CaveMum · 24/11/2025 14:52

SerendipityJane · 24/11/2025 14:47

Why in the name of all that is holy would I start to trust X now ?

The open criticism of Trump by some GOP is interesting. It wouldn't have happened 3 months ago.

I have to agree with Mooch in that Trump has holed his own canoe. He blinked over the Epstein Files and people have now seen/realised that he’s not as all-powerful as he likes to think.

Edited to add - I wouldn’t go so far as to say he’s a lame duck yet, but there’s definitely a slight limp.

SerendipityJane · 24/11/2025 14:54

CaveMum · 24/11/2025 14:52

I have to agree with Mooch in that Trump has holed his own canoe. He blinked over the Epstein Files and people have now seen/realised that he’s not as all-powerful as he likes to think.

Edited to add - I wouldn’t go so far as to say he’s a lame duck yet, but there’s definitely a slight limp.

Edited

Also the recent electoral bloodbath.

SerendipityJane · 24/11/2025 16:59

Grimly amused that Trump was connected to (yet)) another abuser John Casablancas whose name is literally "White Houses".

AcrossthePond55 · 24/11/2025 17:39

CNN reporting that 'The Pentagon' (meaning Hegseth aka 'Kegsbreath' at SCROTUS' demand) is threatening to court martial Sen Mark Kelly over the PSA reminding military personnel that they don't have to obey illegal orders. Another act of revenge by SCROTUS.

Apparently a military retiree can be recalled to active duty and then court martialled. I had no idea!

"Senator Mark Kelly's military awards include two Defense Superior Service Medals, a Legion of Merit, two Distinguished Flying Crosses, and multiple Air Medals. He also received two Navy Commendation Medals, a Navy Achievement Medal, two Southwest Asia Service Medals, a Navy Expeditionary Medal, and a NASA Distinguished Service Medal. These decorations recognize his 25-year career as a U.S. Navy Captain, including 39 combat missions during the Gulf War, and his subsequent role as a NASA astronaut." (Wiki)

Go head on Kegsbreath, try and court martial this decorated combat veteran.

ETA link

https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/24/politics/kelly-recall-service-pentagon

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