Thread 35 Starmer: Old and smelling of roses

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If T.S. Eliot can quote himself, so can I

Dropping this in at this specific point (the whole clip is well worth a watch) as it makes exactly this point - these black actors are making a lot (at West End prices) of money.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgk8zz7r5lo

Interesting..what exactly are your suspicions?

Good news

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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/oct/27/nigel-farage-sarah-pochin-ugly-unpleasant

Succinct.

Thank you @MaybeNotBob. I love John Crace.

This is amazing. Every day the NHS is quietly saving and transforming lives. But all we hear is the bad stuff.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/oct/27/cyclist-fitted-with-printed-3d-face-after-drunk-driver-left-him-with-third-degree-burns

Btw MN is almost impossible to use at the moment, except via Duck Duck Go. What is happening?

I don’t. Have you ever heard him speak live.

Which has no relevance to his sublime writing.

I'm suspecting dodgy ads messing up the javascript again. I've had to move back across, too. I couldn't even type in chrome, yesterday.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgkpjdzv74o

The whiter the area the more likely it is to have a Reform problem. Immigration isn’t the problem, otherwise you’d get Reform in more diverse areas - it’s fear of change among older people.

Interesting article by Zoe Williams today, on free speech:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/oct/27/how-the-free-speech-debate-stops-us-from-stating-the-bleeding-obvious

I particularly liked this sentence:

Freedom of speech is an absolute liberty: it either trumps everything or it means nothing. And nobody ever needed freedom of speech to say something nice.

What’s your point @derxa?

Laest polling by YouGove has Labour, Cons, Greens and Lib Dems at around the same percentage of votes.

People are still flocking to Reform, racism doesn't put them off.

How depressing.

Westminster Voting Intention:

RFM: 27% (+1)
LAB: 17% (-3)
CON: 17% (=)
GRN: 16% (+1)
LDM: 15% (=)

Via
@YouGov
, 26-27 Oct.
Changes w/ 19-20 Oct.

Meanwhile in Kent

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c867g72nzq4o
Five Reform UK county councillors have been expelled from the party for bringing it into "disrepute" and displaying a "lack of integrity".

But on the other hand, well organised tactical voting should keep Farage out.

Renters' Rights Bill becomes law - here's what it means for you

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqjwqp72y7ro

I am finding it OK, but I use a VPN.

MN was slow to load over the weekend but working ok now, I use firefox.

It’s ok on Safari on my iPad if that helps.

I agree with this.

we aren’t a particularly diverse area - very heavily populated white persona suburbs.

Flags going up everywhere.

No hotels nearby let alone any being use for asylum seekers.

I think you’re absolutely right it’s fear of change.

However I think it sucks as I’ve loved that diversity is coming to our town and we have had our first Mosque recently.

I hope my neighbours who are from ethnic minorities don’t feel hated or unwelcome. They work, pay taxes and put into the economy as much as I do.

I’m on the app on my phone whisky batch cooking. App seems to be working ok!