He's a (Very Good) Friend Of Epstein (Oh, Yes He Is) - Trump Thread #149

[Spandauer]

Taking paracetamol doesn’t give you autistic babies but voting for Trump definitely gives you a festering carcass of American rot shoved into an ill-fitting suit: the sleaze of a conman, the cowardice of a draft dodger, the gluttony of a parasite, the racism of a Klansman, the sexism of a back-alley creep, the ignorance of a bar-stool drunk, and the greed of a hedge-fund ghoul— all spray-painted orange and paraded like a prize hog at a county fair.
(Description of Trump courtesy of Oliver Kornetzke 18/8/25)

Previous thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5408426-on-and-on-and-on-it-goes-trump-thread-148

Eh? Is he bitching about women in the military full stop or just in active combat roles?

And what's that about people of colour? Are they out too?

I’m working and only catching snippets but from what I can gather the military should be made up exclusively of strong white “dudes”. No women, people of colour or “dudes in dresses.

Archaic views? Just views you don’t agree with.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyr2xvn4dpo

Remember this

And another woman, Navy Vice Adm. Shoshana Chatfield was fired in April

You're fine with women not having active roles in the military, is that correct?

Don has just been on Sky news leaving to meet the military leaders. He says he will "fire anybody on the spot who he doesn't like..."

Re New York
The Orange one forgets that states collect the taxes that the Federal Government needs
and guess what color (sp) the big payers are
https://usafacts.org/articles/which-states-contribute-the-most-and-least-to-federal-revenue/

I'm fine with that. The sooner they put him under it the better.

I am reminded of that Timothy Snyder post that someone copy/pasted above

I think it's time for states to fight back. Trump and his band of fascists have changed the rules. If the federal government is openly waging war against blue states, they need to use the power of the purse.

I looked up the US military fitness requirements. They have the army fitness test which has to be taken yearly. It’s adjusted for women. I highly doubt they’ll change it. It’s all tub thumping rhetoric.

Well I don't agree with them and they are archaic. The two things aren't mutually exclusive.

Can I ask you, genuinely, why you're on this thread? There are so many threads on MN where people are looking for both sides arguments. This one was created many moons ago as a respite from that in the spirit of like minded people coming together in broad agreement although we obviously don't agree on every specific.

Obviously it's your right to be on any thread you want, but I just don't understand what you get from coming here.

If you listen to Hegseths speech, he has actually said it will be changed. 'Gender neutral' is the clue

Hegseth: "When it comes to any job that requires physical power to perform in combat, those standards must be high and gender neutral. If women can make it, excellent. If not, it is what it is. If that means no women for some combat jobs, so be it."

@oneoneone

It's a tee hee hee moment. Be deliberately controversial to wind people up

You’re right. I won’t be going anywhere. I’ve been on MN for donkeys years and never name change. So I seem more like a thorn in your side. I’m allowed to make comments on any thread I like.

Well he's already done this
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/23/pete-hegseth-ends-womens-military-committee

And he's done this to trans service members who served honourably for many years
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/08/07/politics/air-force-to-deny-retirement-pay-transgender-service-members

He's a disgusting, alcoholic, morning tv host who has had to pay off the woman he sexually assaulted, while still married to his second wife and while his pregnant girlfriend (now third wife) was in the same hotel. Quality guy. But please do defend him.

Of course you are. I just wonder what's wrong with you that it brings you some kind of pleasure, but only you know the answer to that.

I just ignore trolls. This is what everyone should have done with Trump, imo. And probably should still do.

Never change !

Hegseth is a disgusting POS and a lot of his speech was really worrying. He is stopping any rules of engagement and that means when on active duty any member of the military can shoot anyone they like, even innocent bystanders, with no repercussions

Trolls? 🤣

That was my exact thought.

“You kill people and break things for a living," - I’m not sure that all servicemen would agree with this statement, to my mind they protect their country and people and sometimes that unfortunately means utilising violence.

As suspected - MAGA not going anywhere, anytime soon.

After Volatile Summer, Trump’s Approval Remains Low but Stable, Poll Finds
A new Times/Siena survey shows the president retaining the support of nine out of 10 G.O.P. voters, even as the government races toward a shutdown on Wednesday.
President Trump’s efforts to send National Guard troops to big cities, punish media organizations and pressure universities and private businesses are all unpopular with voters.
But the continued torrent of policies and tactics has not further weakened Mr. Trump’s overall standing, according to a new poll from The New York Times and Siena University. Instead, Mr. Trump continues to retain the support of roughly nine out of 10 Republican voters.
The net result: an unpopular president with an unchanged approval rating of 43 percent.
At the start of his term, Mr. Trump’s approval rating fell from its post-election highs, and it remains weak compared with his predecessors at this point in their presidencies. But over the last several months, his rating has been resilient and stable, reflecting that most voters’ opinions on him have hardened.
(NYT)

Now listening to him live, WTF is he on about? He doesn’t like the ships they’re building because they’re ugly 😵‍💫

If anyone knows how to cheat at golf, it's Trump. On that point, I would agree he is an expert.