Thread 33 Starmer - Gerst Monath

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But it doesn’t have to do that - how does the rest of Europe manage it?

Exactly. If it works elsewhere why would it not work here?

remember how special the UK is. If you read the story about Birmingham, they are the same. It would have been inconceivable that they use anything used by any other authority anywhere as then they wouldn't be the special "Birmingham" they felt they are.

You think I jest. Wait till you see that shite CMS. That I could have setup for a fraction the price.

This is the council that sends out letters to update the electoral roll with the userID and password on the same line. Although to be fair it does have a warning about no letting anyone else see them. So that's nice.

But it does go against those protesters who moan about immigrants etc because they claim we don't know who is in the country.

I wonder how all does who say the UK is a soft touch for immigrants because it does not have ID will react 🤔

Probably say it's going to fail as swans won't have IDs.

Can’t even get NHS systems integrated so I’m not holding out any hopes (or indeed fears) that this is anything but yet another attempt to out-Farage Farage.

I think the trouble is that the protesters only want ID for other people, much as they would like to leave the ECHR but not lose their own rights. They are mostly not rational.

It won't stop the boats, that's why it's a no

Makes you wonder what people would do if the boats were actually stopped

Universal Credit tells us all we need to know.

Bearing in mind this system has to contain everyone in the UK.

Also notice what DOGE did when they had access to the entire US social security database. That's a fucktonne of extremely valuable marketing data right there.

You can see it now.

2025: We will never allow anyone access to the UK ID database.
2027: We well never allow unauthorised access to the UK ID database
2029: The UK ID database is covered by the strongest protections
2031: Only selected UK government partners are allowed access to the UK ID database
2025: Email from Tescos saying "We noticed your children are now nearly 18.Have you thought about getting them a Tesco online account".

and so on.

I don't like or want ID that you have to produce on demand.
I don't trust the government with my data and certainly don't want it all in one place for them to lose to hackers or sell.
Carrying an ID card won't prevent any of the perceived issues.
The data protection act says i have the right to anonymity, not sure how they will marry that up.
I thought this nonsense died with Sunak and for me was one of the reasons (among many) the tories needed to go.

I'm all for giving Labour a chance, but they really aren't helping themselves.

I don't like or want ID that you have to produce on demand.

Indeed.

All the people gladhanding it now are probably thinking "But they can't mean me".

Late, but what happens when you have a hard drive of cat pics.

That's a great piece of writing, very powerful.

I carry my driver's license every day. Your mobile phone is a walking talking evidence of identity.

No one ever has demanded my identity on speculation whilst out and about.

😂

Well that'll all change when there's mandatory ID.

Posted in another thread (by me 😀)

Other countries somehow seem to manage with ID cards.

Are you male, black and 13 to 25?

🤣

Btw it seems to me that the Government has actually announced something in an intelligent way by getting the PM to trail a potentially controversial policy like ID before releasing the technical details. This lances their usual problems where they announce something and there is uproar, which has been the approach for the last year and a bit. Because all the potential uproar has been diluted in the previous few days.

Almost like they had some comms advice or something

Rosie Holt's latest video 😂

https://bsky.app/profile/rosieisaholt.bsky.social/post/3lzo4ooocic22
Reform MP backs up Nigel Farage claims that migrants are coming for your birds.

That's a totally different matter and regardless of how much I D they have, digital or otherwise, they'll be targeted.

Mostly targeted for wearing big coats during a heatwave. Shoot me.