Thread 31 Starmer - September Rain

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Jesus indeed 😱

But no cash is exchanged.

There is a lot of concern about the suspension of the family reunion scheme. I think that concern is very well founded.

Labour is making a mistake IMHO. The people who will suffer are women and children who genuinely need our help.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/sep/01/yvette-cooper-accused-of-pushing-children-towards-people-smugglers-by-halting-refugee-scheme

I see what they’re trying for, but that is not the wording I’d use (or maybe I just have a filthy mind):

In other news: my shitty right wing little town has got its first painted roundabout. Someone was cheering about it on the FB group, so I added a cheery post how great it was that we were supporting the women's rugby team.

Pretty much 90% of my job role is making sure our clients remain compliant with RTW. In the time I've been doing this I have had 1 person send along a "friend". The friend was off sited pretty much on arrival and the original worker marked as a do not use.

Id cards would make no difference to this in my opinion.
Things that would help is home office being faster to join up information for checks, term time dates on evisas, actually imprisoning unscrupulous bad actors that abuse people and try to circumvent the system.

In your example, imprisonment for those holding the deliveroo account would be the ideal, but the shop managers should be checking their deliveroo id before they hand over the delivery to make sure the collector matches the deliveroo profile.
Id cards won't help there.

I replied on a paddington flag meme that it was nice to see him taking them down.
I was called a rainbow flag shagger.

I pointed out that it wasn't a very protective thing to say towards a woman, given they want to protect us.

Labour haven’t exactly covered themselves in glory today, have they?

What a pickle.

The responses to the flag shagger gloating are surprisingly encouraging. There's some decent people left here.

Excellent. But of course, you may not be the right kind of woman to protect…. And so it goes

I drove to a few towns last week including a couple that were Brexit central. Zero flags Sunday to Sunday.

I see Yaxley-Lennon is trying to stir up worry about the emergency alert test. I think he is trying to connect it to the stupid rumours on school attacks. He really is poison.

Apparently quite a few in SYL'S 'home' town but I haven't looked yet,

With the greatest respect, the existence of flags here or there is a fucking sideshow at the moment.

There are far more significant issues in play, including Cooper’s asylum ‘reforms’, and Rayner’s tax affairs, all of which segue into Starmer’s ‘Phase 2’ - read ‘please give me more time…’

He’s got 4 more years @menonprohibebis - why would he need to ask?

With the greatest respect

Really really?

We only have dodgy red lines on roundabouts that I've seen in my town. The police did post pictures of them arresting someone in a white overall though the other morning to much excitement.

Well, you have the entire 'Labour's not Working' thread series to talk about that... You surely are not telling us what we can and cannot post about?

I was trying to remember the guy who had to resign from the last government over his tax affairs to make a joke that maybe he had advised Angela Rayner.

I couldn't remember the name, so I went looking

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_departures_from_the_second_Johnson_ministry

Henceforth known as the Tragic Roundabout

With the greatest respect, may I suggest we don't allow another massive derail?

You’ve got the POWAH!

Pressure, in a word.

Mounting pressure, in two.

Well said.

How is it a derail?

A valid explanation, and I will follow the flow.