Trump+Musk; the DOGE and Pony show continues -Trump thread #140

[Spandauer]

Trump, as out of control as a faulty Tesla, takes an ICE pick to the Constitution.

Thanks to @AcrossthePond55 and @Jaichangecentfoisdenom for the thread title and sub-title 😊

Photocollage: Cold War Steve
Map illustration: Barry Blitt

Previous thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5286872-the-orange-man-and-the-state-of-his-union-trump-thread-139

I suspect it would only take a private investigator a couple hours to track this down. If you can afford that, I think it's likely to be your most efficient solution.

I'm sorry. That sounds difficult. I hope you get some resolution.

What I don't understand is... why would Republicans think Musk is qualified to make the Government more efficient? He's never done public service, he doesn't know how anything works. Why haven't Repubs put forward qualified people within the Party to prune federal jobs if that's what they want? I know it's a stupid question.
Musk is just slash and burn which is obviously what they wanted.

@Lalgarh

Did you have trouble sleeping last night, too? Liberation Day Eve is such a special feeling.

I'm lighting the fires in case Elon tries to come down the chimney.

@placemats

State of New York Death Records:

https://www.health.ny.gov/vital_records/death.htm

City of New York Death Records

https://www.nyc.gov/site/doh/services/birth-death-records-death.page

State of New Jersey Vital Records (including death records)

https://www.nj.gov/health/vital/

These are the portals to order records. I don't know if they'll take a 'foreign' address for delivery and I'd assume you'd have to be able to pay in US dollars. It's been too long since I was involved in obtaining vital records so I don't know if they supply records via email. They didn't when I was still working.

Many US Records Offices have restrictions on who is entitled to receive copies of records, especially for 'recent' events. Laws from state to state may vary.

Most of them will also require identifying information for your sister, which I assume you'll know. But they also normally require a date of death, or at least an estimate.

IIRC they'll search a range of dates, but not a 'broad' range. CAVEAT: I worked for a US Govt agency and our searches were for official purposes. A date range search may be something not available to the general public.

Good luck

Nobody with any brains does.

But it's nothing to do with what he knows or doesn't know. It's all about the fact that Scrotus wanted him there. And for the GOP what Scrotus wants, Scrotus gets.

"Liberation Day". FML. All that means is liberating me from more money as the CoL skyrockets.

Gonna go stand on the back deck and visualize plowing up the pastures and wonder how many crops we'll be able to plant.

Gonna have to rehab the chicken coop and turn the dog run back into a pig pen.

I read an article somewhere about how many Republicans in power are just terrified of Trump turning on them. So they go along with what they don't agree with in fear.

They fear attacks on their family, their friends, it's not just about losing their jobs, it's about personal safety.

What a world we live in

I’m fairly certain lots of those who facilitated things like the Holocaust had similar concerns…..

I agree 100% @BustingBaoBun

I think the only thing that would affect that would be if somehow 'the worm turned' and the MAGAts started deserting him. And the only way that will happen is if their lives get absolutely destroyed by the hell he's raining down on Govt services. And I mean destroyed, not 'damaged' or 'a little pain at the till'. If the 'horde' starts turning against him, then possibly the GOP might start to cast him adrift.

But I think he also has 'HYUGE' files of career enders 'problematic situations' for a lot of politicians and public figures. Some of which he's probably engineered himself. So that may keep some 'loyal'.

And yes, he's made remarks before about people needing to be 'got rid of', although I don't think he'd directly engineer a 'hit' or whatever. He's a big fan of 'plausible deniability'. But he's already shown he's capable of making "Will no one rid me of this troublesome priest?" statements knowing there are MAGA crazy enough to take things into their own hands. So that fear is real.

I don't wish ill on anyone but yes, the MAGAts need to learn what they voted for. But if it is so cult like, would they somehow try to justify it? Because everything I've read are Senators saying a sort of 'no pain, no gain' type message. And it will all get better if you just accept you are not going to be so well off. Surely these seismic changes will take a short time to implode and a great many years to show positivity, if it ever were to happen.

Do Republican senators not talk together and worry which way the party is going I wonder. Or are they all just delighted. I saw Trump singled out three Senators who stood up to him, and told them to get on the train or whatever... I fear for them.

Forces of evil?

Trump hailed the outcomes, which he attributed to his personal endorsement. “THE TRUMP ENDORSEMENT, AS ALWAYS, PROVED FAR GREATER THAN THE DEMOCRATS FORCES OF EVIL. CONGRATULATIONS TO AMERICA!,” he posted on his Truth Social platform.

It's how Hitler worked.

Fear

Politico is usually a pretty reliable source, but I'm putting this in the 'I'll believe it when I see it' category. Could just be Scrotus 'testing the waters' of Musk's popularity.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/04/02/trump-musk-leaving-political-liability-00265784

I note that the dateline is today, but at 11.17 am EDT. It's only 11.09. But I have no idea if that's a common thing or not. It's only 8 minutes early

Stuff giving global attention to Trump. It's a different Red v Blue I'm watching on the 📺
⚽️🥅❤️💙

Cranks - I think I had a cookbook by them because I was a vegetarian as a teenager.

Anyway, sorry for digression, eagerly awaiting these announcements! I will go and cheer myself up with a Leonard Cohen song whilst I wait!

We all need to walk on with hope in our hearts 😉

Was reading this yesterday about Hungary. And we know how Putin deals with critics. And Trump's love & admiration for Putin and Orban.

Mmmmm now I'm daydreaming about Homity Pie 🤤

Didn't post link above (😬)

www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2025/05/viktor-orban-hungary-maga-corruption/682111/

"I will go and cheer myself up with a Leonard Cohen song whilst I wait!"
@Goldenbear A woman after my own heart!

Indeed @TomPinch

Do we have air horns and party poppers at the ready or am I early?

Taking 10 minutes out of the (slightly dull) derby to see what Don’s saying…

Fuckwit is running late of course.

Irritating, the second half is about to start!

Maybe wanted to make sure those stock markets were definitely closed!