Christmas market attack in Germany tonight😥 article linked

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/dec/20/germany-christmas-market-madgeburg
I have attended many Christmas markets over the years. They are so crowded especially at the moment as German children finished school for the Christmas holidays. Frightening, my prayers are with all the victim's 🙏

The link says 7 attacks and 20 foiled attacks.

Lbc radio had some terrorist expert on and said UK has foiled too many attacks that got close to attack.
They said its harder and harder to track and stop people.

Our threat level is very high.

Yes that's right & directly underneath that article I posted an article regarding the Swedish prime minister who admits that immigration has not worked out in Sweden! Why does it matter if the article is what you call right or left wing if it is reporting the truth? Much of our media is very left wing with a clear agenda & tries to gloss over the truth.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/swedish-pm-says-integration-immigrants-has-failed-fueled-gang-crime-2022-04-28/

There you go. This is the article which states that immigration has failed in Sweden .

The amounts of immigration into Sweden has been a fucking disaster, now there may be many reasons for this but the end result is it has not worked, it also hasn't worked in Germany or the UK etc.

I really do not understand people who think its a great idea to allow in people from totally different cultures and beliefs to come to a country in their millions over just few years and expect everything to be fine.

BUT the biggest issue for Europe and its stability is that more and more citizens of these countries will vote for parties like AfD, RN and in the UK Reform & that will be even worse for all.

Anyone who questions this is of course a racist.

You can infer what you want from that. I honestly couldn’t give a shiny shit about %

If you want to deny that even the government are saying we are at extremely high risk then so be it - but it does make me wonder if you have skin in the game - as your denial is strange.

Is it the new refuges coming over? Is it people radicalised in the mosques by disgusting hate preachers? Who knows but I think we are in a bit of a trouble with it.

Here are just some of the lives lost - it’s a very easy google search

https://thecritic.co.uk/issues/december-january-2024/swedens-failed-liberal-project/

This is also an excellent article describing what happened in Sweden. The new government have made many changes to turn the country around but it looks to be too little too late & the damage is done.

I could have wrote this post myself. I agree with every single point. I don’t believe any of the party’s have our best interests at heart.

I have had the racist card thrown at me in this post for stating the fact that many of these attacks are caused by men seeking asylum who then turn on the country & citizens who welcom them in. It is not racist. It's the truth but some posters on here can't handle the truth!

https://www.mi5.gov.uk/threats-and-advice/terrorism-threat-levels

Our threat from a terrorist attack right now is substantial according to MI5 , this means a terrorist attack is likely to happen in the UK.

They are foiling many attacks evert month. It truely is shocking

The person lbc said a number I can't remember but they have stopped many significant events recently.

Andersson blamed criminals and said both Islamism and right-wing extremism had been allowed to fester in Sweden, in unusually frank and self-critical comments.

Integration has been too poor at the same time as we have had a large immigration. Society has been too weak, resources for the police and social services have been too weak," she said

This isn't about immigration per se but a lack of resources.

So what do you want to see happen then?

Yes but immigration & integration has failed in Sweden. They don't lack resources, they are a wealthy country.

https://thecritic.co.uk/issues/december-january-2024/swedens-failed-liberal-project/

This is an excellent article.

People to face facts . It is not racist to point out the obvious. People should be allowed frank & open discussions about immigration & whatever your stance truths should be accepted not defended.
One lost life or injury inflicted on a citizen is one too many.

And then what?

How would you reduce the number of terrorist attacks that have taken place from people who have claimed refugee status here?

I am german so yeah I do have skin.
I was also in Berlin when the attack happened.
I also have friends who emigrated to germany.
The same friends who have been victims of racial hatred and who would be part of the million of immigrants who would probably have to leave the country if the AFD ever got into power.
Contrary to you I don't use the victims to sow further discontent and to push a political agenda.

I think much more awareness needs to be made in communities who can flag people of interest to social services & MI5 who need to take all concerns very seriously.

People who cover for individuals or who have any but of information about a plot & failed to inform authorities also need to be charged.

Children are becoming radicalised online. Children are parents responsibility until the age of 18, if a child becomes radicalised
under parents watch parents should also be charged.

Anyone with a criminal record should not be allowed enter the UK

Deport any individuals who commit crimes.

What would you do cake?

Right, so you post an article supposed to be saying one thing. I point out that it doesn't say anything of the sort and actually somehow I'm supposed to know that you posted a different article in a whole different post which really said what the previous article didn't? You're not very good at this debate thing, are you?

Why does it matter if the article is what you call right or left wing if it is reporting the truth?
My issue is that a right wing journal will be banging a right wing drum so is bound to be saying certain things. It doesn't mean it's the truth, or in this specific case it doesn't mean it's even relevant.

I've wasted enough time on your non sequiturs and misplaced articles.

This.

Is this what you mean. 'It's more about the mismatch of culture that numbers. Cultures where women are shrouded and less than men, with strong opinions on various issues that differ and come wanting or demanding change. Some disrespect our laws. Don't allow free speech or the right to make fun of a religious figurehead. Some get pretty violent about these things eg send a poor teacher into hiding and fearing for his life for showing a mere picture of a religious figure! Some demand changes when they arrive. These changes and accommodation cost money. Its natural for the population to have concerns especially when the numbers are large abd they bring trouble with them.'

People are scared to say it out loud
Why not suggest people come out and then try to sort these mismatches

And left, liberal newspapers will be pushing a different agenda which is why common sense & critical thinking is key. People make their own minds up.

Of course. That's the nature of journalism. But when all you have is an irrelevant RW article not saying what you think to back you up then there's really no point continuing. I'll leave you to your racist hate.

The suspect has been charged with 5 murders and over 200 attempted murders and remanded in custody. No terrorism charges - would this be usual @katter to make them separately or at a later date?

The little boy has been named Andre GleiBner

Story no longer seems to be on the front pages in the UK - probably different in Germany

It’s not political agenda - it’s genuine concern. As for you it’s CLEAR it IS political which makes you blind to the reality what’s happening.

You can’t keep calling people racist forever when the evidence that it’s a massive failure continues to mount up along with dead bodies.

If you had a thousand skittles and one was laced with rat poison would you still offer the bowl to a child to take one on the off chance they wouldn’t pick the poisoned sweet?

When you hear people on here talking about immigration, do you think that's relevant to this conversation - as most of this already exists in law.

It also applies to people who live here and were born here.

I can remember the Hungerford massacre, Dunblane, the bombings in the gay bars in London - all tragedies that men perpetrated and were perpetrated by people born in the UK.

I can remember all the IRA bombings - the IRA did have a political cause which is the definition of terrorism. To further political aims through violence and intimidation.

ISIS have / had their reasons for committing terrorism.

But there are plenty of cases where men have killed others for no obvious reason. You can only look at the school shootings and other mass shootings in the USA to see that.

I agree that radicalisation is so easy - and if we had more access to guns in the UK, we would see more male violence carried out in the UK.

Racist hate 🤣 you sound like a true lefty liberal who pulls the racist card when they know they are wrong & have lost the argument. How predictable of you! Just what an op was literally saying . You cannot silence people by name calling!