Christmas market attack in Germany tonight😥 article linked

[Treetops11]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/dec/20/germany-christmas-market-madgeburg
I have attended many Christmas markets over the years. They are so crowded especially at the moment as German children finished school for the Christmas holidays. Frightening, my prayers are with all the victim's 🙏

It's in relation to how exactly & why that man got granted asylum in Germany & is referred to as a refugee.. whereas the thousands of British in Saudi are called expats..
It's not crass at all female rights are being completely eroded due to males being granted access to female only spaces. I feel unsafe in my country.

You might have an issue.

The 2022 Saudi census: what it tells us about refugees and Saudi Arabia - Refugee Law Initiative Blog

Saudi Arabia is not a signatory to the refugee convention.

A Recent History of Refugees in Saudi Arabia — Refugee History.

But as has been mentioned, it is illegal to be trans in Saudi Arabia. The death penalty is available for consexual same sex relationships.

I guess you could give it a go.

If it helps, a transwoman from the UK was granted asylum in New Zealand because it was safer for her there than in the UK.

British transgender woman granted asylum in New Zealand because it is 'safer' | The Independent | The Independent

This!!!

Then leave? The man was granted asylum according to Germany's rules on asylum. You can be granted asylum if you fulfil the criteria. Look up the rules for being granted asylum in Germany if you really want to know how he was granted it. If you really feel unsafe in the UK then flee and apply for asylum somewhere.

I'm unwatching this thread now, imo you are being really disrespectful towards a horrific incident and trying to turn it into some kind of weird point scoring exercise or joke, I'm not sure which.

Sorry but treetops is racist and deranged!!! Muslims love a Christmas market and this was not an Islamic attack!!

Are you aware of the reasons why people can claim asylum in other countries?

Maybe it's time to move on then? But where? Brown people are everywhere eek!

This is how people claim asylum in the UK

Claim asylum in the UK: Eligibility - GOV.UK

I presume Germany is similar. Saudi Arabia isn't a signatory to the 1951 Refugee Convention.

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"Can I correct that to mentally-ill immigrant terrorism? Maybe we should try and address the problem of mentally-ill immigrants?"

Really? Scrolled up maybe twenty posts to find that.

You know that life for a Brit in Saudi would be quite different from life for the average Saudi? We have friends working there, earning a packet and living like they're on holiday with the best of everything. Life is good for them because they need an excellent package to make it worth their while. There are so many very strict rules with hefty punishment that there has to be a sweetener to get Brits to go work there.

Yet he still managed to work as a psychiatrist - doesn't add up.

There has been a far right protest in Magdeburg.
I wonder if those idiots actually realize that the are doing exactly what the attacker wanted.
Which was to increase hatred against Muslim immigrants.
I also think it's interesting that a lot of people wäre jumping on the islamist terrorist train but when it turns out he's a far right supporter he's just mentally ill.

And totally blame the AFD for fanning the flames of hatred. You can't bang on about the dangers of islamization and then be surprised that one of your supporters acts

Germany has a shortage of health care professionals so an arabic speaking doctor might have been welcomed any way.

I think until this man has been fully investigated etc, then that is not yet a given.

He has used a tactic previously used in Islamist attacks and i certainly do not take at face value his anti Islam tweets and posts.

But what he has done, regardless of his motivation, is added further support to AfD and all other right wing parties throughout Europe.

Colleagues have reported that he'd had a lot of time off sick in recent months and had been in conflict with refugee clients at the clinic

So who knows

Can you give me one example of where I am racist? What have I said ? Find examples please. I am very interested into how a Saudi Arabian is granted asylum from a country that thousands of expats live in & is a safe country to travel to.

@jasjas3008

But what he has done, regardless of his motivation, is added further support to AfD and all other right wing parties throughout Europe.

Yes I suppose that could have been what he wanted.

@MrsSkylerWhite

"Because they are a terribly flawed, sick person."

I think that is one thing we can all agree on.

Also if this man had not been granted asylum in Germany then this attack would not have occurred or if he had been deported to Saudi as requested then this attack would also not have occurred.

When everyone is busy getting ready for Christmas, reflect for a moment that there are hundreds of families in Germany right now who have had their lives changed forever by the actions of this man.

And reflect whether one man's right to asylum is more important than the right of others not to lose loved ones or be badly injured or even just to feel safe at Christmas events.

Neither do I. In fact the media are gone into overdrive trying to make out he is anti Islamic. The tactic used, the fact he targeted a Christmas market, surely a mosque or a Muslim event would make sense if he was as anti Islamic as the media (who have their own agenda ) are making out.

It's not the first time Saudi Arabia intel has been ignored...

Also the media are clutching at straws claiming he's anti immigrant while being an immigrant himself. Also had a website helping Saudis gain asylum in Germany! Not adding up!

from BBC
A source close to the Saudi government told the BBC it sent four official notifications known as "Notes Verbal" to German authorities, warning them about what they said were "the very extreme views" held by al-Abdulmohsen.
The source, who asked not to be named, said these notifications were ignored.
However, another experienced counter-terrorism expert said the Saudis may be mounting a disinformation campaign to discredit someone who tried to help young Saudi women seek asylum in Germany.

You see that is what doesn't add up.. the man is painted by many outlets as being anti immigration yet he has a website & is actively helping asylum seekers gain refugee status himself. He himself is a refugee...

Do you think Saudi Arabia is a safe place for all people to travel to and live in?

If he was angry at the German Government for the way they treat refugees (in his opinion), do you think that targetting a crowd of German people would fit with someone who wanted to commit a terrorist attack against Germany and its people?