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Coveescapee · 28/09/2023 13:32

No I can't be arsed. This is a prelude to try and take GB News off air. Both Caroline Bokes (anti feminist idiot) and Owen Jones (amti feminist idiot and lauded Russell Brand for years) have called for this.

Coveescapee · 28/09/2023 13:33

*Nokes!

LadyWithLapdog · 28/09/2023 13:34

I don’t watch GBN. I was under the impression they invite right wingers , Tory MPs whom they interview favourably, and conspiracy nutters. Am I so wrong?

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BIossomtoes · 28/09/2023 13:36

LadyWithLapdog · 28/09/2023 13:34

I don’t watch GBN. I was under the impression they invite right wingers , Tory MPs whom they interview favourably, and conspiracy nutters. Am I so wrong?

No, you’re absolutely right. And it’s being defended by someone who has just admitted they know nothing about it and “can’t be arsed” to find out.

hattie43 · 28/09/2023 13:45

I think LF has descended into madness . You'd have to be completely stupid not to know how inflammatory those remarks are .

Coveescapee · 28/09/2023 13:52

BIossomtoes · 28/09/2023 13:36

No, you’re absolutely right. And it’s being defended by someone who has just admitted they know nothing about it and “can’t be arsed” to find out.

I don't need to know who owns it to know that people like LOJ and Caroline Nokes are trying to cancel it which makes me look on it favourably. And this person you're replying to hasn't even been arsed to actually watch it before passing comment and making assumptions which I've at least done.

LadyWithLapdog · 28/09/2023 14:00

@Coveescapee i haven’t had dysentery either, but I can still have an opinion.

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Coveescapee · 28/09/2023 14:06

There is no arguing with "stoopid."

TooBigForMyBoots · 28/09/2023 14:11

LadyWithLapdog · 28/09/2023 13:34

I don’t watch GBN. I was under the impression they invite right wingers , Tory MPs whom they interview favourably, and conspiracy nutters. Am I so wrong?

They have given 4 sitting members of this Tory government their own programmes. Other "politicians" who have been given their own shows are from UKIP, Reform, Reclaim and the DUP.

The right wing bias is clear and I'm Confused that @Coveescapee claims not to see it.

BIossomtoes · 28/09/2023 14:14

Coveescapee · 28/09/2023 14:06

There is no arguing with "stoopid."

You said it.

Coveescapee · 28/09/2023 14:19

Yep. Can't argue with ya.

Coveescapee · 28/09/2023 14:26

TooBigForMyBoots · 28/09/2023 14:11

They have given 4 sitting members of this Tory government their own programmes. Other "politicians" who have been given their own shows are from UKIP, Reform, Reclaim and the DUP.

The right wing bias is clear and I'm Confused that @Coveescapee claims not to see it.

I've just looked at their roster of presenters, they also have a former Labour MP and Simon Evans who is my favourite comedian. They have mix of very good presenters like Andrew Doyle and SE and not so good. So what if some are Tory MPs, maybe they're the ones with the most sensible views atm. I find it hard to think of any Labour/LD sensibles. But it is good to have a range of views and find it very sinister that certain people are trying to cancel GBN.

Cello60 · 28/09/2023 14:28

I see the Mail has terminated Dan Wootons contract

squareyedannie · 28/09/2023 14:31

Everyone deserves a space to air their views. We definitely don't have to agree with them.
I refuse to watch the BBC and GBN but wouldn't want either of them to be taken off air. There definitely needs to be more accountability though, and concerns addressed in a timely manner.

Passepartoute · 28/09/2023 14:42

squareyedannie · 28/09/2023 14:31

Everyone deserves a space to air their views. We definitely don't have to agree with them.
I refuse to watch the BBC and GBN but wouldn't want either of them to be taken off air. There definitely needs to be more accountability though, and concerns addressed in a timely manner.

But no-one has an entitlement to airtime on a broadcasting channel to air their views. I don't know about you, but if I turned up at BBC, Sky, ITN, GBN etc and demanded a bit of airtime to give everyone the benefit of my opinions I'm quite sure they would tell me to get lost.

And does anyone deserve any space to air really extremist views? Suppose, for instance, someone wanted to advocate publicly in favour of hanging, drawing and torturing members of a particular ethnic minority, should they be given a space for that purpose?

Coveescapee · 28/09/2023 14:50

No because that's against the law duh. Not quite the same as perfectly mainstream views which are not given an airing on the other channels.

squareyedannie · 28/09/2023 14:54

Everyone deserves a space, that doesn't have to mean on the telly.
Plus, accountability for what you say is also important, It's how we evolve, through debate

BIossomtoes · 28/09/2023 14:55

Coveescapee · 28/09/2023 14:50

No because that's against the law duh. Not quite the same as perfectly mainstream views which are not given an airing on the other channels.

You might want to ask yourself why a special outlet has to be created for these perfectly mainstream views. Give you a clue - they’re too far right for most of us to stomach.

TooBigForMyBoots · 28/09/2023 14:56

Coveescapee · 28/09/2023 14:26

I've just looked at their roster of presenters, they also have a former Labour MP and Simon Evans who is my favourite comedian. They have mix of very good presenters like Andrew Doyle and SE and not so good. So what if some are Tory MPs, maybe they're the ones with the most sensible views atm. I find it hard to think of any Labour/LD sensibles. But it is good to have a range of views and find it very sinister that certain people are trying to cancel GBN.

I didn't mention the former Tory MPs who work for them and I'm not sure what Simon Evans has to do with anything. I have said that they have some decent presenters.

It is good to have a range of views. GB News doesn't provide this. It provides a right wing view and a far right view leading to such excellent debate as:
Suella Braverman is right vs Suella Braverman doesn't go far enough.

The occasional left wing guest does not correct the Right Wing bias.

NigelHarmansNewWife · 28/09/2023 15:03

Laurence Fox is a bitter man whose ex wife, who didn't have the advantages of birth he had, is more successful than him. She's a more successful actor and he's even tried a music career and she was more successful than him at that at a very young age. I think he is trying to find a purpose in life, but his repellent views are preventing this.

GB News is a vehicle for repellent right wing mouthpieces, like Fox, it's not a proper news channel.

newnamethanks · 28/09/2023 15:26

Absolutely correct. GB News is for right wing nutters and their fans. To pretend otherwise is to lie to yourself and others. You know what you are GBN fans, why not just admit it instead of pretending it's a bastion of free speech?

hihelenhi · 28/09/2023 15:35

BIossomtoes · 28/09/2023 14:55

You might want to ask yourself why a special outlet has to be created for these perfectly mainstream views. Give you a clue - they’re too far right for most of us to stomach.

I, a person who has NEVER voted for a right wing party in my life and never will, have the extremely mainstream view that claiming that some women have penises is false and misogynist. I continue to hold my lifelong view that sex matters politically (esp given every right women have had to fight for has been based on it), that & that sacking and hounding women for saying so and them having to crowdfund to raise legal cases in order to get basic UK equality law applied is extremist and sinister. Not to mention the medical scandal in the making.

Sadly, GB news is one of the very few channels that will even permit that view or discuss those facts. Which I and many other left wing women knew about YEARS before they did, or any other RW outlet for that matter.

Unfortunately it seems you can "stomach" that. Pat yourself on the back, how righteous you must be. Tbh, rather than GBN, I'd rather other news channels returned to the view that discussion of contentious issues in public was a positive thing instead of just ignoring whatever was inconvenient for whatever non-democratic lobby group it decides to have training it, or for pandering to people who have tantrums and meltdowns if someone says something they even mildly disagree with.

And then perhaps we can start reducing this ridiculous polarisation that the likes of the odious Fox lap up for attention.

Coveescapee · 28/09/2023 15:35

Lawks I give up. None of you have defined right or far right. It's just as meaningless as me blethering on about left and far left. People just don't bother thinking anymore just reach for meaningless labels (I blame social media and the fact that people can stay in their silos and never have to counter opposing views).

NigelHarmansNewWife · 28/09/2023 15:38

Why the need to define right wing or far right on this thread? It's easy enough to look online and find out yourself. Similarly for left wing and socialist. Blindingly obvious GB News is modelling itself on US Fox News given how successful that has been.

Coveescapee · 28/09/2023 15:40

hihelenhi · 28/09/2023 15:35

I, a person who has NEVER voted for a right wing party in my life and never will, have the extremely mainstream view that claiming that some women have penises is false and misogynist. I continue to hold my lifelong view that sex matters politically (esp given every right women have had to fight for has been based on it), that & that sacking and hounding women for saying so and them having to crowdfund to raise legal cases in order to get basic UK equality law applied is extremist and sinister. Not to mention the medical scandal in the making.

Sadly, GB news is one of the very few channels that will even permit that view or discuss those facts. Which I and many other left wing women knew about YEARS before they did, or any other RW outlet for that matter.

Unfortunately it seems you can "stomach" that. Pat yourself on the back, how righteous you must be. Tbh, rather than GBN, I'd rather other news channels returned to the view that discussion of contentious issues in public was a positive thing instead of just ignoring whatever was inconvenient for whatever non-democratic lobby group it decides to have training it, or for pandering to people who have tantrums and meltdowns if someone says something they even mildly disagree with.

And then perhaps we can start reducing this ridiculous polarisation that the likes of the odious Fox lap up for attention.

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