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Stuck in Rhodes

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TooTrusting · 23/07/2023 08:47

I was just east of Gennadi, 5 minutes away, at Atlantica Dreams resort (Tui). All day yesterday there was a steady stream of evacuated guests from other hotels arriving.
The fire seemed to die down at around 3pm. But by 7 it was raging again.
We were told one of us needed to stay up all night to listen gif the evacuation siren.
There were hundreds of evacuees there by then.
Just before 10pm we were evacuated. We walked to the road where there was a coach and some cattle trucks. It was chaos and hard not to be separated from my DCs (23, 19, 17 & 17). We had no idea where we were going. I had to calm and keep company 2 distraught children (circa 14 and 8) who had got separated from their parents. I lost a shoe and one DC their phone. We had to jettison the one small cabin size suitcase we had brought our essentials in.
Our truck broke down and we walked about a mile, again not knowing where we were going, and were eventually directed onto Gennadi beach. There were around 2000 people there all crammed together. Small boats, capacity around 10, went back and forth between ferry boats and the shore. There was no Dunkirk spirit. People were tired, upset and frightened. Some had not slept for 2 nights.

It took 4 hours until we finally managed to get on one at around 2. It was bedlam with everyone shoving and barging. I was separated from the DCs several times. Nobody knew where we were going.

We were on the ferry around 4 hours before arriving in Rhodes Town at c6.30am. We sailed through ash clouds and people had towels tied round their faces. People were taken off in different buses. We ended up in a school with 150 others. But there was nothing there for us, no beds, mats, washing facilities or food and it was boiling hot.
There was no list so the authorities have no idea who has gone where. It is a total lie for Tui to say they have re accommodated everyone. They have not. They have no idea where I am and until their phone lines open I cannot contact them either. The only info we have been given is an FCO number for advice on travel and consular assistance (which we don't need).
Luckily I have 24 hour insurance access and when I'd re charged my phone was able to establish I am covered (was worried it would be an "act of God"). I have booked a hotel for 1 night, after a long search. I've just arrived - it's chaos with everyone sleeping on the floor.
Just before we left the school a band of volunteers arrived laden with food and one of them thinks our hotel may have been burned down and we are unlikely to get back to try to retrieve our stuff. She says Gennadi is mostly gone.

We leave on Wednesday. We can't check in here til 2 and need to go and buy clothes and essentials. All we have is what we are standing in.

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UncleRadley · 23/07/2023 22:05

SweetSakura · 23/07/2023 22:01

What's "going on right now" on Rhodes is climate change.

You can't uncouple the two.

Of course you can. There's an immediate crisis with getting people off the island. And a generally discussions not climate change and what caused the issue. This thread is about the immediate issue.

UncleRadley · 23/07/2023 22:06

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UncleRadley · 23/07/2023 22:09

I've flown maybe six times in my life (I'm 43) I don't have a car. Or a wood burner. I hope everyone who is posting on here about climate change doesn't own a car and has never flown.

treneton · 23/07/2023 22:17

SweetSakura · 23/07/2023 22:01

What's "going on right now" on Rhodes is climate change.

You can't uncouple the two.

Exactly I think the thread police are going to have to accept that threads about the actual impact of effects of catastrophic climate change are going to have posters making the arguments about the existential the crisis that we are in and hopefully trying to educate along the way. They can then either ignore , rebut or harrass. Whatever, - we aren't going away I'm afraid, nor should we. The OP is getting plenty of support and advice and good I hope they get themselves and their family home safely.

MumLass · 23/07/2023 22:33

I see so many people moaning about losing their holiday. People are losing their homes, businesses. You have lost a week in the sun and have a couple of sleepless nights. I can imagine it is scary and pretty hard to deal with in the moment but you are safe, you will claim on your travel insurance and you will come home to an intact house and all your worldly goods.

I say this as someone who is booked to take her 2 kids to Rhodes in a few weeks! If it's cancelled, so be it.

For those slating the tour operators, what can they do? It's absolute chaos on the ground and they can't legislate for this. They have cancelled outbound flights and are sending those planes empty to bring people home. I think that's about all they can do right at this minute.

user9630721458 · 23/07/2023 22:35

1dayatatime · 23/07/2023 21:47

The reference to climate change is not derailing it is simply pointing out the irony that tourists are having to evacuate from fires in Corfu, the conditions for these fires were created after record 45c temperatures which in turn was caused by climate change which in turn was created by rising CO2 levels.

The rising CO2 levels are in part caused by air travel, which in turn the tourists took in order to reach Corfu.

By way of example a return flight from Birmingham to Corfu would emit 680kg of CO2 person so a family of four would emit 2720kg. This is equivalent to 12,600 miles motoring (a normal year's car use) in. a Ford Focus.

That's really shocking. I do think we need to consider the effects of flying on climate change. I don't fly, but I understand it's difficult to people to accept it is harmful as it's so normalised. A bit like smoking everywhere was once the norm.

Tessisme · 23/07/2023 22:37

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hulahooper2 · 23/07/2023 22:40

With all due respect , you have had an awful experience, at the end of the day you have lost a holiday and some belongings , Greeks have lost their homes /jobs / livelihoods

SweetSakura · 23/07/2023 22:43

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Outside psychology and psychotherapy, the term "existential crisis" is sometimes used to indicate that the existence of something is threatened.

Our literal existence is threatened...

notahappybunny7 · 23/07/2023 22:52

Moodflump · 23/07/2023 09:16

When did you fly out? Were you not concerned by the numerous reports in the media about the adverse weather, and although the fires weren't until Wednesday did you not consider cancelling or moving it? What are you expecting people to do?

She was probably there before Wednesday. And what adverse weather reports? That it was very hot in Greece?? In late July?? 😐

kraftyKitten · 23/07/2023 23:00

hulahooper2 · 23/07/2023 22:40

With all due respect , you have had an awful experience, at the end of the day you have lost a holiday and some belongings , Greeks have lost their homes /jobs / livelihoods

This . Your alive , unharmed and going home .

1dayatatime · 23/07/2023 23:03

MumLass · 23/07/2023 22:33

I see so many people moaning about losing their holiday. People are losing their homes, businesses. You have lost a week in the sun and have a couple of sleepless nights. I can imagine it is scary and pretty hard to deal with in the moment but you are safe, you will claim on your travel insurance and you will come home to an intact house and all your worldly goods.

I say this as someone who is booked to take her 2 kids to Rhodes in a few weeks! If it's cancelled, so be it.

For those slating the tour operators, what can they do? It's absolute chaos on the ground and they can't legislate for this. They have cancelled outbound flights and are sending those planes empty to bring people home. I think that's about all they can do right at this minute.

An excellent summary

Hibernating80 · 23/07/2023 23:03

How do mums bottle feeding babies manage to make up bottles? It must be so stressful and upsetting for any in that situation.

Toddlerteaplease · 23/07/2023 23:05

At least you will have a home to go too. It's far far worse for those who's homes have been destroyed.

anyolddinosaur · 23/07/2023 23:06

I've been to Rhodes and loved it. Their economy depends on tourists. Unfortunately if we all stop travelling completely their are parts of the world that will suffer as much from that as from climate change.

We currently have no travel plans but I'd like to return and help them recover from this, because they'll need help soon.

As for what tour companies can do-message passengers frequently about their plans and not tell lies about what they are doing/ can do.

Gilmorehill · 23/07/2023 23:12

Goodness me I can’t believe how nasty some people are being on this thread. The Op has been through a very scary and stressful ordeal yet so many people are trying to make her feel bad. It must be wonderful to lead such a pious life that you can judge others.

letthemalldoone · 23/07/2023 23:12

Sirius3030 · 23/07/2023 21:07

Sadly you are wrong. I just flipped back to a random page and posters are talking about hotels reopening soon, and things getting back to normal. And if posters were banned for sarcasm this whole board would disappear pretty quickly. Don’t think much of your irritatingly naive posts either BTW.

No matter what the disaster, life goes on! It has to. We are talking livelihoods!!!

SamW98 · 23/07/2023 23:14

Gilmorehill · 23/07/2023 23:12

Goodness me I can’t believe how nasty some people are being on this thread. The Op has been through a very scary and stressful ordeal yet so many people are trying to make her feel bad. It must be wonderful to lead such a pious life that you can judge others.

Absolutely 👏

And that despite some of the holier than thou posts, most of us are capable of having empathy for more than one group of people affected by a terrible situation.

TooTrusting · 23/07/2023 23:16

@fallenangel I got a very odd mix of things that will do for today. Hopefully I'll get another couple of bits tomorrow. We don't need much. I may try to go to retrieve our things on Tuesday, I'll see how the fire is then and the wind. It's not worth taking any risks over.

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XjustagirlX · 23/07/2023 23:18

@TooTrusting what was happening with very small babies? For example if I was there I wouldn’t have time to grab my babies milk formula never mind make her a bottle with boiled water. How are small babies being fed?

littlemisslozza · 23/07/2023 23:19

We got back from Corfu two days ago. Temperatures were 36 or 37 degrees each day, so slightly higher than usual accordijg to hotel staff but nothing like the 45+ that other places have been experiencing. I'm really sad to see the island is also on fire now.

letthemalldoone · 23/07/2023 23:19

hulahooper2 · 23/07/2023 22:40

With all due respect , you have had an awful experience, at the end of the day you have lost a holiday and some belongings , Greeks have lost their homes /jobs / livelihoods

Why do you feel the need to trivialise what must have been a traumatic experience for this family and so many others? And prefacing it "with all due respect" doesn't make your remarks any less tone deaf!!

Why must you create a hierarchy of victims?!!

TooTrusting · 23/07/2023 23:20

hulahooper2 · 23/07/2023 22:40

With all due respect , you have had an awful experience, at the end of the day you have lost a holiday and some belongings , Greeks have lost their homes /jobs / livelihoods

It's AMA about what's going on from a tourist's perspective. Not a woe is me post about competitive suffering.

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notahappybunny7 · 23/07/2023 23:23

By breast, hopefully

letthemalldoone · 23/07/2023 23:25

TooTrusting · 23/07/2023 23:20

It's AMA about what's going on from a tourist's perspective. Not a woe is me post about competitive suffering.

Well said!

I am saddened and disgusted how some horrible posters are trying to trivialise the trauma you and your family have just been through. Preaching about climate change when they don't have the empathy of a goldfish towards their fellow human beings!! It's disgraceful.

Please do keep us informed - there are people here who do care. Hope you all get a decent night's sleep.