Stuck in Rhodes

[TooTrusting]

I was just east of Gennadi, 5 minutes away, at Atlantica Dreams resort (Tui). All day yesterday there was a steady stream of evacuated guests from other hotels arriving.
The fire seemed to die down at around 3pm. But by 7 it was raging again.
We were told one of us needed to stay up all night to listen gif the evacuation siren.
There were hundreds of evacuees there by then.
Just before 10pm we were evacuated. We walked to the road where there was a coach and some cattle trucks. It was chaos and hard not to be separated from my DCs (23, 19, 17 & 17). We had no idea where we were going. I had to calm and keep company 2 distraught children (circa 14 and 8) who had got separated from their parents. I lost a shoe and one DC their phone. We had to jettison the one small cabin size suitcase we had brought our essentials in.
Our truck broke down and we walked about a mile, again not knowing where we were going, and were eventually directed onto Gennadi beach. There were around 2000 people there all crammed together. Small boats, capacity around 10, went back and forth between ferry boats and the shore. There was no Dunkirk spirit. People were tired, upset and frightened. Some had not slept for 2 nights.

It took 4 hours until we finally managed to get on one at around 2. It was bedlam with everyone shoving and barging. I was separated from the DCs several times. Nobody knew where we were going.

We were on the ferry around 4 hours before arriving in Rhodes Town at c6.30am. We sailed through ash clouds and people had towels tied round their faces. People were taken off in different buses. We ended up in a school with 150 others. But there was nothing there for us, no beds, mats, washing facilities or food and it was boiling hot.
There was no list so the authorities have no idea who has gone where. It is a total lie for Tui to say they have re accommodated everyone. They have not. They have no idea where I am and until their phone lines open I cannot contact them either. The only info we have been given is an FCO number for advice on travel and consular assistance (which we don't need).
Luckily I have 24 hour insurance access and when I'd re charged my phone was able to establish I am covered (was worried it would be an "act of God"). I have booked a hotel for 1 night, after a long search. I've just arrived - it's chaos with everyone sleeping on the floor.
Just before we left the school a band of volunteers arrived laden with food and one of them thinks our hotel may have been burned down and we are unlikely to get back to try to retrieve our stuff. She says Gennadi is mostly gone.

We leave on Wednesday. We can't check in here til 2 and need to go and buy clothes and essentials. All we have is what we are standing in.

No the point is you are being a dick, it isnt a race to the bottom ffs.

And I'm not sure how quickly some will get over it.

Our dear friend in Crete in October lost his car, their office was swept away, half of their shop swept away and deluges of water swept through the ground floor of their homes following torrents of rain. They were not hurt, but sadly two people died. They are still dealing with the aftermath.

Perhaps explain to them and the inhabitants of The Maldives why you think you can't help to curb climate change. I'm sure they will appreciate your input.

And people are not trolling. The situation in Rhodes has been exacerbated by the very high temperatures being experienced at present. This is AMA. People have been commenting appropriately and asking questions and no one other than those deleted has been trolling.

It's relevant to consider our day to day choices. It's certainly not my intention to patronise, and I'm sorry if it came over that way.

We was at the afantou kindergarden sorry somebody mentioned there kid was helping out, shout out to those volunteers.

But this isn't a 'let's talk about climate change' thread, nor is it about crete or the Maldives. It is about a family in unusual circumstances in Rhodes. Your preaching won't change anything in the here and now. If you want to make a point start your own thread. You are right it is a AMA, so ask the op questions she can answer.

This thread has taken a strange turn.

Hope you get home soon @TooTrusting and you have no more dramas.

@JennyJenny8675309 - me too. Utterly nasty individuals. It happens on every thread though, no matter how innocent the initial post appears to be you can bet that posters come on purely to stick the boot in, try and turn things around to make the OP feel guilty/sad/a bad parent. It’s really toxic.

Bloody hell @Sirius3030. Maybe go and lie down for a bit. I was referring to the locals who were helping out, as referenced in @H202020's post, not people who were watching their whole livelihoods go up in flames. Did you even read the post I was answering. Jeez.

I have to agree
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I find it best to just scroll on by, Jenny; some can't seem to help themselves, but the moral high ground they pretend to adopt is a very thin veneer and slips easily - as we just saw with the filthy insults at 19.10

Sadly you are wrong. I just flipped back to a random page and posters are talking about hotels reopening soon, and things getting back to normal. And if posters were banned for sarcasm this whole board would disappear pretty quickly. Don’t think much of your irritatingly naive posts either BTW.

Just back from Latitude and had a very good talk from Chris Packham. We are entering the phase of extreme climate chaos now and time is running out very fast to have any impact on this. The future of humanity on earth is at stake and going on foreign holidays should be the first thing to go. If we don't mend our ways there will be no habitable earth for our children and grandchildren. There is no debate any more we are staring down the face of the barrel here.

I’m quite interested in this thread. Derailing folk - please create your own thread.

What a nightmare. So glad you are safe. It’s been very interesting to hear your perspective op.

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Oh boy, this is special! The climate change is CAUSED by global warming,first of all. It's not a name change 😂

So you say it's a form of control from the top down... Except most leaders at the "top" are doing v little about it, so how does that work?

How exactly is it controlling behaviour?! And how does that benefit anyone in a position of power, if everyone consumes less stuff and oil and gas and spends less on shit we don't need that has the EXACT opposite effect to the one most people at "the top" want.

This makes ZERO sense. Genuinely don't understand how people fall for these ludicrous and utterly nonsensical conspiracy theories. If you're going to make shit up, at least try to make it vaguely believable!

I can't believe what I've read here to be honest. Why did it turn into a climate change debate?
The world has been messed up for a very long time and if people can get some joy out of a holiday what's the issue? It would take millions and millions of people to stop using air travel and it's never going to happen. Preaching isn't going to help the situation. The climate change leaders go all over the world preaching about this subject endlessly and guess how they travel? It will take a lot more than coming onto a thread here and disrupting it when it's about a family in a time of struggle. How ridiculous.
I for one know how many families and businesses including my own would be greatly affected if everyone stopped travelling. My family live in Greece, my father lives in Spain, I for one will be continuing to travel to both places to see them. Why should all us little people stop living our lives when the very people who claim to care and who could actually make changes don't?

I hope you and your family , the other families and holiday makers and the good people of Rhodes get through this safely. Take care all.

Well said. I can remember when TPTB "decided" that paper bags were killing the environment so we would go to plastic bags. Oh, they could be recycled, multiple uses, etc. Now no company wants the bags to recycle and billions of them are floating around the world. Ditto plastic bottles and cans of soda and other drinks and all the things you mentioned. It seems the more the world did to make it "better", the more it harmed. I remember the milk, soda and other glass bottled drinks being returned to get your deposit back. Small towns having most everything you need so there wasn't the need to drive 7-10+ miles to get to a store and even remember when trains were the major way to cross the country. But progress.....

The reference to climate change is not derailing it is simply pointing out the irony that tourists are having to evacuate from fires in Corfu, the conditions for these fires were created after record 45c temperatures which in turn was caused by climate change which in turn was created by rising CO2 levels.

The rising CO2 levels are in part caused by air travel, which in turn the tourists took in order to reach Corfu.

By way of example a return flight from Birmingham to Corfu would emit 680kg of CO2 person so a family of four would emit 2720kg. This is equivalent to 12,600 miles motoring (a normal year's car use) in. a Ford Focus.

All you lot stop banging on about 'climate change' totally derailing.

Get your own thread.

OP I hope you and everyone involved gets sorted quickly it must have been extremely stressful.

I am interested in the thread and am sure many others are. Sorry if I contributed to the derailment but those smug so and so's at the beginning were really getting on my wick with there holier than though attitude. I won't be answering anything else but stand by everything I said previously.

Interested in what's going on on on Rhodes. That's what the thread was about. Can we stick to that?

It's the elephant in the room sadly I don't think most politicians or most of the people will get how much out of time we are until fires are licking around their houses or flooding their properties. The science is unequivocal and the evidence of our own eyes is now a daily litany of the chaos that is rapidly unfolding. It's worse than you can ever imagine.

I agree

I'm much more interested in learning about what's going on right now in Rhodes. Can those wishing to discuss climate change please start their own thread rather than trying to derail this one?

@TooTrusting Did you manage to get a change of clothes? How are the rest of your family? Are you with other evacuees, and if so, what's the general mood?

https://www.theplanetedit.com/should-we-stop-flying/#:~:text=Air%20travel%20accounts%20for%20approximately,much%20more%20of%20an%20impact.

Interesting article. Aviation accounts for 2-3% of global warming and the resulting tourism has protective benefits. Everyone stopping flying would be a drop in the ocean compared to everyone stopping eating meat so I hope all ecowarriors are vegetarian.

What's "going on right now" on Rhodes is climate change.

You can't uncouple the two.