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Sandie Peggie: Employment Tribunal, associated legal claims, and related matters - thread #63

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nauticant · 24/09/2026 13:07

TLDR version: Sandie Peggie vs Royal College of Nursing is currently being heard. The hearing started on Wednesday 23 September 2026 and is scheduled to end on Thursday 1 October 2026.

Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims were of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claimed to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 February 2025 and after a prolonged process judgment was handed down on 8 December 2025. That judgment is being appealed and an appeal hearing is expected to take place in 2027.

Additional legal claims have been raised. Sandie Peggie is taking action against the Royal College of Nursing, against three senior managers who were witnesses in the employment tribunal - Dr Kate Searle, Dr Maggie Currer and Esther Davidson, against Carol Potter, the chief executive of NHS Fife, for victimisation, against NHS Fife for discrimination, and against its director of people and culture David Miller for harassment. In addition, Sandie Peggie is being investigated by the Nursing and Midwifery Council over fitness to practice.

The past proceedings were live tweeted by www.x.com/tribunaltweets. Tribunal Tweets are likely to be providing coverage in current and future proceedings. There's additional information on Tribunal Tweets' substack: tribunaltweets.substack.com/.

Links to previous threads #1 to #60 can be found in this thread: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5379717-sandie-peggie-list-of-threads-covering-employment-tribunal-and-afterwards

Thread 60: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5461133-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-60 16 December 2025 to 8 January 2026

Thread 61: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5472628-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-61 8 January 2026 to 3 August 2026

Thread 62: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5562302-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-62 3 August 2026 to 24 September 2026

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Boiledbeetle · 25/09/2026 14:16

I wonder if she's set a "eunuch" tribunal record for the amount of times the word is uttered.

BettyBooper · 25/09/2026 14:17

NC - A news article on the RCN website about RCN corporate attendance at Pride Newcastle 'a truly special event' over the page we see some of those who attended, and see a progress pride flag with RCN insert.
NC Do you agree that progress pride flag associated with gender ideology
NP Yes
NC So you agree RCN celebrating gender ideology
NP yes

CriticalCondition · 25/09/2026 14:17

I think he thought things were going to get better once NC had moved on from eunuchs. He was wrong.

ILikeDungs · 25/09/2026 14:18

Boiledbeetle · 25/09/2026 14:16

I wonder if she's set a "eunuch" tribunal record for the amount of times the word is uttered.

Fuck is right up there too but I think eunuch is winning atm

CriticalCondition · 25/09/2026 14:18

NC So you agree RCN celebrating gender ideology
NP yes

Boiledbeetle · 25/09/2026 14:18

ickky · 25/09/2026 14:15

Come on man, surely you can agree it is shocking.

Talk about fence sitting. (which ironically may lead to being a eunuch)

Well... An ex boyfriend of mine did end up losing the end of his penis after getting stuck on a barbed wire fence

ickky · 25/09/2026 14:19

Is that the reason he is an ex?

BettyBooper · 25/09/2026 14:20

NC - RCN logo embedded in progress pride flag, clear from ad that this is a gender ID event
NP yes
NC - RCN has never run a compr event for gender critical staff
NP sorry don't know the answer to that
NC can you hazard a guess? s
J are you aware of it?
NP - I honestly don't know asnwer to that
NC suggest it is inconceivable they would run such an event. You will be aware that the GC movement has adopted suffragette colours? What I want to suggest is that RCN would put on event celebrating GC views
NP don't agree

Boiledbeetle · 25/09/2026 14:20

ickky · 25/09/2026 14:19

Is that the reason he is an ex?

Well.. It wasn't the only reason his nickname was Terry Toothpick.

ickky · 25/09/2026 14:21

😂

chilling19 · 25/09/2026 14:21

Oh looking forward to evidence of GC celebratory event put on by RCN 😂😂😂

BettyBooper · 25/09/2026 14:21

NC it if ever had it would be easy to bring evidence next week?
NP yes
NC page 1051, pdf 136.

😂

Szygy · 25/09/2026 14:22

I’m trying to follow along on a train with very intermittent internet connection. To my rage and mortification the train I’m on is emblazoned with Pride livery. I’m trying to console myself with the thought that reading this thread is a small act of defiance.

Boiledbeetle · 25/09/2026 14:22

Has Naomi asked a question yet that hasn't landed?

Szygy · 25/09/2026 14:23

PS whether the train is eunuch-gender, I cannot say 🤔

Cailleach1 · 25/09/2026 14:23

Boiledbeetle · 25/09/2026 14:13

I imagine NP is currently feeling very very very uncomfortable.

I may be wrong, but I bet he never thought twice about making life for women and girls very very very uncomfortable. At a minimum.

The RCN were retweeting (and seemed to be celebrating, as NC stated) a man who appeared to be inciting violence against women and girls who dare to stand up for their rights.

Let the sun shine upon him and his fellow travellers, for all to see.

BettyBooper · 25/09/2026 14:23

NC - this is the RCN shop. Lots of merch. Lots of pages of merch. Would you agree that if you turn over those pages, mostly what you see is generic nursing campaigning 'tat' and some nice historic'tat' until we get to RCN Pride enamel badge, progress pride. I haven't seen anything that's for GC nurses?

MarieDeGournay · 25/09/2026 14:23

Everything NC says is just so real, isn't it? Laid bare. No sugar-coating. No queer theory. No #bekind. Just: this is what actually happens to women in the real world.
It's lethal in the face of waffle.

CriticalCondition · 25/09/2026 14:23

Sits on hands...

Boiledbeetle · 25/09/2026 14:24

CriticalCondition · 25/09/2026 14:23

Sits on hands...

So much!

Appalonia · 25/09/2026 14:24

Parallel universe! 😂

Boiledbeetle · 25/09/2026 14:24

Appalonia · 25/09/2026 14:24

Parallel universe! 😂

La la land

YouCanCallMeMonster · 25/09/2026 14:24

CriticalCondition · 25/09/2026 14:23

Sits on hands...

this is comedy gold!

BettyBooper · 25/09/2026 14:24

NP wasn't aware there was a badge. I wasn't aware of adoption of suffragette colours. As an org we could produce that
NC - I think you are imagining a parallel universe where GC colours would be included?
NP yes

😂

Boiledbeetle · 25/09/2026 14:25

God! I am totally in love with this woman.