6’10” former Knicks and Celtics star formerly declares for the WNBA draft

They don't need to be all saints. They are making the point. And they're right to do so. Their motives are almost irrelevant. Like those Spanish soldiers (not that that did much good). Plus, it's funny! 😄

Which Spanish soldiers out of interest?

That's pretty much what I was saying.

Who could possibly have predicted this consequence of Spain legalising self-ID? 🤔

At least this is happening before US law has changed.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5022244-spanish-soldiers-changing-gender

If only he was still a man I would have his babies. 😪

I dunno. That's the first time I've heard fear of flying being an open symptom of latent transgenderism. I think they are breaking new ground. If nothing else these guys are being very creative in leaning in to this.

WBNA League taskforce still baffled about what is a woman question:

A WNBA task force of team presidents and general managers met Wednesday and discussed transgender athletes but did not arrive at any eligibility rules, according to a statement sent to ESPN by a league spokesperson.

In recent weeks, demonstrators have staged rallies for and against transgender inclusion at Indiana Fever games, after Fever guard Sophie Cunningham said in an ESPN article that she supports barring transgender girls and women from girls' and women's sports.

The league's statement Wednesday, in full, reads:
"Today's meeting covered a wide range of topics, including ongoing discussions on transgender athletes and the continued hate and vitriol directed at players online. We will continue to engage all league stakeholders in the coming weeks and months. We will approach these important conversations thoughtfully and in alignment with the values of our league. There are no immediate eligibility matters affecting the WNBA and we strongly denounce the bad-faith efforts to use these topics to demean or marginalize others."
https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/49594734/wnba-task-force-discusses-transgender-athletes-amid-furor

...she supports barrring transgender girls and women from girls' and women's sports.

I'm not clear on whether those are actually Sophie's words, but if the statement was ...she supports banning transgender males from girls' and women's sports, or ...she supports banning trans-identifying males from girls' and women's sports it would suddenly be a crystal-clear statement to every single 'I don't get all the fuss' person reading it.

No doubt TIMs etc would object to the wording, but that's purely because it makes everything so much clearer to call a spade a spade and not a forking spoon.

She didn't say anything like that she was interviewed by ESPN see below, her original words are way less inflammatory, and the interview went viral. If anyone spread that interpretation it is ESPN which is making money from all this drama. It is weird they don't quote their own piece. If men get banned from WBNA it is down to ESPN even more than Sophie. She wasn't publicising her views if she is asked she will tell the truth and she will never ever give up. That was what the interview revealed.

Love her or hate her, Sophie Cunningham won't be ignored

You say she's authentic? That's because she is, she says. "You see so many people change or try to fit into a box," she says. "I don't even know what that box is. It's a fake box. Everyone wants to look the same. Everyone wants the same vibe. Screw that. I'm gonna be me."

You say she's a "MAGA Barbie," as some corners of the internet have taken to calling her? Projection, she says, because of what she looks like and where she's from. She'll weigh in on how to "protect women's sports," she says, because she's in that world and feels qualified to speak to that world. "I got a lot of negative feedback about me hating trans. And I'm like, 'I never once said that,'" she says. "I think that I am here to extend love. But I also think with that love is truth, being honest. And I want to protect young girls in a locker room, or young girls in sport who shouldn't have to go against biological men."

But she also insists that none of this is some Rosetta Stone to unlocking the true nature of her political worldview.

"I'm very much in the middle. I agree with things on both sides, disagree with things on both sides. And that's all I've ever said about my political beliefs. But people love to assume."

https://www.espn.co.uk/wnba/story/_/id/49306657/sophie-cunningham-finger-point-indiana-fever-wnba

OMG I love Royce White (whoops sorry, accidental dead-naming, of course I mean Rocia White) the young, black, sometimes identifying as a trans lesbian two spirit woman basketball player. So inspirational, I hope one day to perfect her hair flick, I must keep practising.

Royce White going off the reductio ad absurdum cliff:

Royce, sorry, Rocia White isn't saying anything we haven't heard or read trans people saying before.

If sporting rules are fair, reasonable and the fairness legally watertight then these rules cannot be exploited by alleged ‘bad faith actors’ in the first place.

I don’t give a fuck about the ‘oooh they’re bad faith actors’ argument. It’s not the point. The point is the fairness of the rules. Are they fair to women and girls? That’s it, that’s what matters.

“9 inches of clitoris” 🤣🤣🤣

It's the way he tells 'em!

'I really rate their difficult second album'

I’ve said it before and I’ll no doubt say it again, but I do find it funny when men pretending to be women (and those who support it) are outraged when men pretend to be men pretending to be women! And as previously mentioned, there is not a lot of difference in the dialogue coming from either camp.

On a computer not at work, search for "clit on a stick" in quotes in Google. Some TiMs call their penises that. Mr White is doing no different.

I know it's a thing. Just appreciating the fact that he's gone straight to the obvious conclusions, expressed so trenchantly, and the level of coverage. Sunlight.

Aaaagh! Why did I read that ?!!

Eddie the Eagle's comment about only getting respect by having top and bottom surgery is interesting. Given that 90-plus percent of trans identifying people are obviously scaredy-kweens also and don't have any form of surgery, is that person saying they are not worthy of respect?

Enes Kanter FREEDOM

The WNBA says a woman is anyone who claims to be one.

So if I say I’m a woman, you have to accept it.

Those are the rules the WNBA created.

Why does anyone get to decide whose journey is real and whose isn’t?

Who gets to judge?

Rules Are Rules!

LetFreedomPlay

It appears so! I know we get accused of all sorts on here, but I doubt more than a tiny percentage on here think a person's trans identity is only valid if you have surgery.

Royce White is not a nice person
but the way he is tying "progressives" up in their own contradictions is hilarious.

The fact that the Democrat leadership have not already started active damage limitation on this
in time for the Mid Terms is pretty depressing