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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Covent Garden - why don't I trust the reporting ?

422 replies

SerendipityJane · 05/08/2026 15:35

A woman stabbing four men ?

Or am I nasty and old ?

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likelysuspect · 05/08/2026 16:07

Funny enough (not being flippant), it was the scissors that is the giveaway that it was a real woman

They are a household domestic item

Yes I know knives are household items but a knife has aggression affiliated with it. Scissors have domesticity associated with them.

I dont think it would be many men's weapon of choice.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 05/08/2026 16:08

My first reaction was, was it a real woman, I went in search of other information on the story because until I see a picture of the alleged stabber, I'm not taking anyone's word for it.

Such is the way of things now, because of this counterfactual ideology that has undermined everything that didn't need questioning or verifying before.

RoundedRobin · 05/08/2026 16:10

Velvera · 05/08/2026 15:57

The first reply.

Reading comprehension not a strong point of yours?

SerendipityJane · 05/08/2026 16:11

It shouldn't need saying here, but regardless, all thoughts prayers and sympathies to the victims, no matter the nature of the assailant.

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Velvera · 05/08/2026 16:11

RoundedRobin · 05/08/2026 16:10

Reading comprehension not a strong point of yours?

Reading between the lines is though.

SerendipityJane · 05/08/2026 16:12

Velvera · 05/08/2026 16:11

Reading between the lines is though.

I think the problem is we aren't as clever as you though.

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murasaki · 05/08/2026 16:14

SerendipityJane · 05/08/2026 16:12

I think the problem is we aren't as clever as you though.

Yes, we tend to trust the evidence of our eyes....

AprilMizzel · 05/08/2026 16:15

SummerDive · 05/08/2026 16:00

A hell if a lot topics is the answer.
From politics to the way our very warm summer is never reported as a climate change isdue etc etc…
See Gaza p, the war with Iran etc etc etc….

So no it’s not just a gender/sex/trans issue here

You do need to look at a variety of news sources and even then entire subjects don't make it to the news cycle.

I think it was a turkish station on satellite channels that did a nice international round up at a time I was sat watching TV that was eye opening - then it stopped or changed times.

I keep seeing ground news being advertised on you tube - they rate the bias and reliablity of the news sources for stories. Biasis have always been there and always will be but to need a service like that suggests impartaillity is in decline or people struggle to work out what they are now.

I used to think the BBC tried for unbias and factural as possible - but even before covid I think that had slipped a lot or just gone out the window.

SerendipityJane · 05/08/2026 16:16

You do need to look at a variety of news sources and even then entire subjects don't make it to the news cycle.

The problem here, is that the "horses mouth" is the Metropolitan Police.

And I don't particularly trust them to start with.

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Iheartmysmart · 05/08/2026 16:16

Another skeptic here. Far too many times women have been blamed when it’s #NotOurCrimes that I don’t take anything on face value any more.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 05/08/2026 16:16

Velvera · 05/08/2026 16:11

Reading between the lines is though.

Are there secret messages written in invisible ink, in the in between the lines places. COOL

murasaki · 05/08/2026 16:18

AprilMizzel · 05/08/2026 16:15

You do need to look at a variety of news sources and even then entire subjects don't make it to the news cycle.

I think it was a turkish station on satellite channels that did a nice international round up at a time I was sat watching TV that was eye opening - then it stopped or changed times.

I keep seeing ground news being advertised on you tube - they rate the bias and reliablity of the news sources for stories. Biasis have always been there and always will be but to need a service like that suggests impartaillity is in decline or people struggle to work out what they are now.

I used to think the BBC tried for unbias and factural as possible - but even before covid I think that had slipped a lot or just gone out the window.

I think the BBC has spent a long time trading off the fact that many people think it has a duty to be unbiased and therefore must be. So it's been able to be as biased as fuck for ages and people didn't really question that for a while.

Because Auntie wouldn't lie to us, right?

CompleteGinasaur · 05/08/2026 16:18

Velvera · 05/08/2026 16:11

Reading between the lines is though.

Another here whose first thought was to doubt the veracity of the reports. And that's the point of the thread, @Velvera ; not what the actual sex of the assailant is, but that the hysterically partisan and dishonest reporting of the BBC over the last 15 years have left us unable to trust that it won't prioritise its proselytising editorial stance over the truth.

murasaki · 05/08/2026 16:19

And I totally agree that's it's best to read around different sources of news to work out what I think. One isn't anywhere near good enough.

Nitgel · 05/08/2026 16:21

There is a real increase of homeless people with mh issues in central london. Its depressing.

SerendipityJane · 05/08/2026 16:22

I think the BBC has spent a long time trading off the fact that many people think it has a duty to be unbiased and therefore must be.

but those people (myself included) aren't wrong.

It's the BBC that have got it wrong, equating "unbiased" with "uncritical".

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AprilMizzel · 05/08/2026 16:22

The problem here, is that the "horses mouth" is the Metropolitan Police.

True they have proven to be an unreliable source at times - and frankly there are concerns about how the are run beyond that.

One of my issues with current world is I tend to believe Iran over Trump the president of the United States - TBH Iran probably not an entirely good source of information I just judge them as more reliable than US administration.

Walkden · 05/08/2026 16:23

*It shouldn't need saying here, but regardless, all thoughts prayers and sympathies to the victims, no matter the nature of the assailant."

Was this the first post to express sympathy with the men who have been stabbed?

Whereas the first post hints at disbelief that the male victims were unable to disarm their attacker, which has undercurrents of victim blaming....

Seriestwo · 05/08/2026 16:23

Velvera · 05/08/2026 16:11

Reading between the lines is though.

That was my message. I meant what I said and said what I meant.

You read between the lines and amuse yourself if you like.

murasaki · 05/08/2026 16:25

True. There was definitely a point where Trump claimed he'd come to an agreement with Iran over Hormuz, and they said, er, no that isn't true, and I believed them over him.

Seriestwo · 05/08/2026 16:25

Walkden · 05/08/2026 16:23

*It shouldn't need saying here, but regardless, all thoughts prayers and sympathies to the victims, no matter the nature of the assailant."

Was this the first post to express sympathy with the men who have been stabbed?

Whereas the first post hints at disbelief that the male victims were unable to disarm their attacker, which has undercurrents of victim blaming....

good grief. There is an undercurrent but it is “I don’t trust the BBC”

ThatCyanCat · 05/08/2026 16:25

Velvera · 05/08/2026 15:49

It was a homeless women with MH issues who was known to local businesses.

Don't let that stop your speculation though.

The child assigned male at birth who cried butterfly because wolves are butterflies if they say they feel like butterflies...

Basically, keep misreporting and lying about facts and you can't complain when people get sceptical and no longer trust you.

ThisShyTaupeFinch · 05/08/2026 16:25

SerendipityJane · 05/08/2026 16:11

It shouldn't need saying here, but regardless, all thoughts prayers and sympathies to the victims, no matter the nature of the assailant.

Really? Then why did you make this post? If you care about the victims, you wouldn't create a thread for "speculation".

SerendipityJane · 05/08/2026 16:25

AprilMizzel · 05/08/2026 16:22

The problem here, is that the "horses mouth" is the Metropolitan Police.

True they have proven to be an unreliable source at times - and frankly there are concerns about how the are run beyond that.

One of my issues with current world is I tend to believe Iran over Trump the president of the United States - TBH Iran probably not an entirely good source of information I just judge them as more reliable than US administration.

I think we can be certain that whatever the agenda of Iran, it almost certainly does not encompass the goal of making the Trump family richer and more powerful and the first monarchs of the US. Which means their have more integrity than the US political system right now.

And they are a barbaric religious regime. It shouldn't be this way round.

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Theeyeballsinthesky · 05/08/2026 16:27

Nitgel · 05/08/2026 16:21

There is a real increase of homeless people with mh issues in central london. Its depressing.

That is sadly very true