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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Sexism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 3

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fromorbit · 02/05/2026 11:45

Zack Polanski is making things bigger yet again so another thread needed.

Well things have developed rather a lot since the start. ZP started out as being another sexist guy in politics - no shortage those around, but he thought he could take it to a new level and he proved he could do it.

The Green threads have followed his rise from the start of with the Hypnoboobs scandal and much more. There is also:

Mothin Ali as deputy Leader who clearly doesn't believe in trans thinking, but cleverly sidesteps round talking about it, has always had a issues with encouraging racist violence and is now encouraging people to sue the Green party if they attempt to stop them saying racist stuff.

The other deputy Rachel Millward represents the posh rich faction of the Greens who manages to sounding like Reform when opposing Asylum Seekers in her area, but at the same time saying we are too harsh on immigrants in general. Obviously she also doesn't believe women are a thing. Yet she is the least crazy when violence is concerned compared to ZP, and Mothin.

Hypnoboobs scandal got worse recently when it became clear from BBC footage ZP actively believed in the Hypnoboobs thesis rather than being tricked into it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9enygvezeo

Alongside all this there is constant ongoing attacks on biological reality from the party in interviews and in policy.

Now in the last week or so after a longstanding spate of antisemetic rhetoric from some Greens during the election campaign and ZP downplaying it. We have synagogues, schools, ambulances attacked, two Jewish people dead and ZP berating unarmed police for risking their lives in fighting a violent killer who was still armed with a knife things have come to a crisis point.

The Greens are becoming ever more sinister with dozens of candidates sounding like they are seventies NF supporters with comments about uppity women and Jewish power. The huge drama over a crazy motion which they were trying to pass against Israel at conference alongside a motion to prevent women having sports will surface again their September conference.

It seems likely after next week The Greens are going to be running a bunch of councils which doesn't bode well after their antics in Bristol.

Yet there is hope, in Bristol women are fighting back_: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5455053-bristol-council-is-about-to-be-sued_

The fight back from Green Women's Declaration, ( https://www.greenwomensdeclaration.uk/ ) continues and the court cases against GPEW from Emma Bateman and Shahrar Ali are developing, both getting through legal delaying tactics as they move to trial. Gardening is needed. These cases if successful could be dramatic in their impact.

First thread - where you can follow the rise of ZP and lots of other scandal
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

Second Thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5456759-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-2?

Note the Scottish Greens which are a separate party to the Green Party England/Wales have their own thread for all their sexist drama. They split off because GPEW didn't hate biology and women/gays enough at the time.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5313420-scottish-greens-being-sexist-again?page=1

Greens internal drama warms up | Mumsnet

New long article looking at the drama inside the Greens over biology suddenly existing again despite their best efforts. *How the Green Party forgot...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

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ArabellaScott · 05/08/2026 16:53

He adds that he believes addressing the climate crisis will help with other political goals

No shit.

AngleofRepose · 05/08/2026 17:58

I predict The Greens will either dump identity politics altogether, or they will dump Zack. What a choice!

ArabellaScott · 05/08/2026 18:00

Why not both? 🙂

Lalgarh · 05/08/2026 19:21

I doubt they'll dump identity politics. It's the only key thing keeping their halfway reliable voting base on board, as demonstrated by global majority greens

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/08/2026 00:49

ArabellaScott · 05/08/2026 16:53

He adds that he believes addressing the climate crisis will help with other political goals

No shit.

Isn’t their raison d’être supposed to be the climate crisis, not “other political goals”?

Lalgarh · 06/08/2026 01:07

People who've suggested this in recent months have had the Zack Army smack them down as jealous of the greens commitment to a better world.

Whisper it, but if they really do make "how will this affect climate change" as front and centre, it'd mean some very unpopular policies, not least in reducing food miles and meat and food needing to be more expensive, as well as stuff current buried in the party conference motions like restricting pet ownership.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/08/2026 01:12

Have they got anything about population reduction policies? That’s the sort of thing I can imagine they might advocate.

Lalgarh · 06/08/2026 01:21

I think they used to. AI Google says

"In its early history during the 1970s and 1980s (when it was known as PEOPLE and then the Ecology Party), the predecessor to the Green Party of England and Wales explicitly argued that overpopulation drove environmental crises and advocated for stabilizing and gradually reducing the UK population.

Early History & Population Stance1970s–1980s Proposals: Early manifestos and internal debates featured explicit population-reduction targets and discussions around managing human numbers relative to ecological carrying capacity.
Shift in Tone: As the party professionalized into the modern Green Party through the 1990s and 2000s, explicit calls for a "reduction" in the UK population were largely dropped or muted.

Internal Tensions: While some members maintained links to organizations focused on demographic pressures (such as Population Matters), other factions within the party actively pushed back against targeting population or immigration, viewing it as a distraction from systemic economic and industrial reform.

Modern Stance

Current Policy: The contemporary party has moved away from population-reduction frameworks, pivoting instead toward the Green New Deal, resource-demand reduction, and progressive, welcoming migration policies.

Contemporary Debates: Modern leadership and recent policy updates focus on humanitarian asylum frameworks and green economic transformation rather than limiting population growth."

lcakethereforeIam · 06/08/2026 09:56

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/08/2026 01:12

Have they got anything about population reduction policies? That’s the sort of thing I can imagine they might advocate.

I always thought this might be an explanation as to why they're went whole hog on the transgender thing. If neutering people before they're old enough to breed doesn't cut down the birth rate, I don't know what will.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/08/2026 10:30

They don’t seem to be impressed with the guillotine t shirt photo, although they put it down to incompetence rather than design.

BezMills · 06/08/2026 10:58

I will never not laugh at Walter Titty

How about Lol McKenna

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