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Coldcalmcollected · 07/11/2026 17:35

I’m being asked to support someone and I can’t. It’s a long one.

Basically, my friend was in a long-term relationship with my BIL (DH’s brother), they met through me. She has always known that he did not want any more children (he has 2 with his ex-wife). She has, until recently, been fine with it- at least publicly. Obviously, I cannot know if she has secretly harboured other wishes but she has never given this impression (and, in previous relationships says she did not want children, so I’m inclined to think this is a change of heart). According to BIL, he has always been 100% clear that he does not want any more children and has never suggested he might change his mind- until recently she has never suggested she was unhappy with this situation. However, recently she decided she does want children. BIL’s view remained unchanged.

A few months ago friend had an “oops” pregnancy- I believe she deliberately stopped contraception without saying so (I.e. planned a pregnancy) based on something she said to me and my other SIL- but she quickly backtracked when both of us were fairly horrified at the “sometimes you just have to make it happen, if you get what I mean” comment.

I would agree she has the right to stop contraception any time she likes, but she should be honest with her partner as it’s a mutual thing if no contraception is being used. Equally, I think both parties have to accept contraceptive failures do happen. But deliberately not using it without saying so is utterly wrong and a huge betrayal of trust, in my opinion.

BIL had a vasectomy very quickly (privately) after he found out his partner was pregnant- against her wishes- as he was adamant he does not want more children. I think he probably should have done it sooner, but equally don’t think it unreasonable that he trusted his partner to take the agreed contraceptive. He was accepting of a contraceptive failure, though he was honest about the fact that he was not keen to keep the baby. He was obviously prepared to shoulder his responsibility to the baby, despite his lack of enthusiasm. I think this is totally reasonable.

Sadly, friend had a miscarriage at 14 weeks. She was, and is, devastated by the miscarriage. I do feel for her- despite the circumstances- and I know BIL’s palpable relief at the outcome probably made it harder for her. But, equally, I think he is entitled to his own feelings and never pretended he was excited to be a father again. Obviously, I have never said that to her- that is just my thoughts.

Anyway, I’d said to DH about what she’s said and that I thought this was very off. DH also thought that what she said was suspicious. It seems other SIL also told her husband. After he thought about it for a short period, he spoke to his other brother- and both decided to speak to BIL. This was around the same time friend miscarried. He told DH he had some suspicions but given events had decided to give her the benefit of the doubt (especially as it cannot happen again).

Anyway, he was devastated to have his suspicions supported and that his partner would do this- he confronted her. According to him she initially denied it, but eventually said she had accidentally messed up her contraception but had just not said anything, so it wasn’t planned in advance (he doesn’t really believe this and thinks it was a very deliberate choice, probably been the case for some time). However, even if it was a one-off slip, she still chose not to say anything which might have meant BIL would have used a condom or abstained- she apparently admitted to him that she thought he would have done one of those things if he had known the reality of the situation. He has ended their relationship. As they aren’t married, she is going to be in a significantly worse financial situation as she has no claim on any assets or their home.

I am in an awkward situation- I do feel sorry for her as she is understandably struggling with the miscarriage, the end of her relationship but equally think she has behaved terribly towards her ex-partner, who is a member of my family. She’s furious with me/us, but equally wanting support and for me to “speak to” BIL to convince him to give her a second chance.

I genuinely can’t do the latter- I think it’s not only not my place, I believe he is right to end the relationship. I can’t apologise for the former, as I don’t think it was fair to ask me to keep this to myself. In short, I don’t really think I am the right person for her to lean on right now. I think our friendship is essentially over. I think it was over the minute she admitted what she had done- I feel that if she understood me, she should have known what I’d think about her actions, and how I’d feel about being asked to keep it to myself when it is a member of my family impacted. I genuinely do not know why she told us/suggested this if she did not want anyone else to know.

Her mother contacted me to say how much friend is struggling and how worried she is about her mental health, and also how disappointed she is that I haven’t been there more for her. The thing is, my friend just wants to rant about what a POS he is to have dumped her weeks after a miscarriage, making her leave their home etc. our friendship group is split- I’d say 3/4 agree what she did was utterly repugnant, and she put myself and other SIL in an awkward situation by telling us and expecting us to say nothing. The others feel that what she did “wasn’t ideal” but that she doesn’t deserve to lose her relationship, home etc over it and the miscarriage should have bought her some grace. This is going to cause problems in our group. I’m ok with this, although I am
sad as we’ve been friends for a long time, as others are entitled to their views.

I do feel sorry for her regarding the miscarriage, but I also think she is the author of her own misfortune and will have to live with the consequences of her actions. Her actions have absolutely rocked BIL too- he feels utterly betrayed, and is finding the violation of trust really hard to come to terms with. I just can’t pretend I’m ok with what has happened. AIBU?

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PolkaDotPorridge · 07/11/2026 18:26

I think you were awful to betray her. She’s better off without all of you.

Hoardasurass · 07/11/2026 18:27

LemonPuppyPorkChop · 07/11/2026 17:45

I think you’re way too involved here, and that passing on something she told you to your DH was an outrageous betrayal of confidence. Basically, this is the mess you get when you interfere.

Really this so called friend was bragging to the SILs of her partner that she was intentionally baby trapping him.
If she was a man she'd be liable for rape by deception charges, thats how disgusting her behaviour was and to expect her partners relatives to keep quiet is ridiculous.
The only person who has behaved outrageously is the former friend.
@Coldcalmcollected if her mum contacts you again tell her exactly what her daughter did and why she getting zeri sympathy

Thundertoast · 07/11/2026 18:28

She has brought this situation entirely on herself. It wasnt a split second of madness, she deliberately planned it. I have even less sympathy because its not like he pulled the rug from her, she knew he didnt want another from the start. Its wicked, awful behaviour. She's lucky ANYONE is sticking by her. You are not obliged to support anyone who harms others in this way. She has people who are supporting her, so she can get support from them. She knew the potential consequences and did it anyway! No way should anyone expect you to support her. If he had taken the condom off and got her pregnant without her consent noone would be expecting you to support him.

CherryKerry · 07/11/2026 18:33

Time to step away from the friendship and put your immediate and wider family first.

Hoardasurass · 07/11/2026 18:39

EdgyNewt · 07/11/2026 18:06

Your friend made a very big mistake, but she is also a human being who clearly wanted a baby despite saying otherwise.

The argument is between her and BIL. You were right to tell him the truth.

But now you need to take BIL out of the picture. If your friend had done that with some other bloke that wasn't BIL, would you be dropping your friend for her mistake? She clearly very badly wanted a baby and was willing to leave that to chance over not taking her contraception. And she has now lost the baby.

Personally I'd still be there for my friend as there is no way I could not be, despite the circumstances.

Intentionally stopping your contraception without telling your partner so you can have a baby that you know he doesn't want isn't a mistake its abusive and premeditated abuse at that.
Quite frankly I wouldn't want anything to do with her ever again and think that tge miscarriage was the best possible outcome of a pregnancy under these circumstances

Coldcalmcollected · 07/11/2026 18:40

LemonPuppyPorkChop · 07/11/2026 18:06

Bluntly, it’s not the OP’s business. I don’t disagree that what the SIL did was ethically wrong, but her husband was also irresponsible about contraception in the circumstances. I’d have told her that what she did was appalling, that she should tell her husband the truth, and that I didn’t want to hear another word about it, or any potential fallout, and taken a step back, because I’d be questioning my own judgement about having this person as a friend.

The OP is dealing with this precise level of family/friendship mess because she didn’t take it up with her SIL at the time, and told her exactly how poor her behaviour was, but tattled to her DH behind her back.

The choice wasn’t between ‘pretending it was fine’ and betraying your friend’s confidence to your DH.

But it wasn’t told to me in confidence? Not that it matters, but she told us in a way that she clearly thought it was amusing/she was proud of what she’d managed to pull off. She seemed to be aware that it was a bit off, but more of an “the ends justify the means”. She seemed quite taken aback when we were shocked.

Equally, she didn’t ask us not to say anything (and my other SIL is not really her friend outside of their relationship with their partners, so I don’t know why she’d discuss something like that with her). I guess she assumed we’d keep it to ourselves- but BIL is a member of my family and I don’t think you should let family be utterly shafted and say nothing- even if the person responsible is your friend. DH and BIL are very close. I genuinely think he’d have found it very hard to forgive me if he found out I knew about this and had chosen to keep it to myself. Perhaps that is “too enmeshed”, though I don’t think so.

And, if she can betray his trust like that, I can only assume she’d have no compunction about throwing me under the bus and telling everyone that she’d told us and we kept it to ourselves, if it suited her to do so.

I’m only involved now because she keeps phoning begging me to intervene on her behalf, or to criticise BIL. And now her mother is calling me. She does have other friends who can support her- and are doing so- it’s not as though it’s me and no-one else. I think we need to let things cool, and see where we stand after that. I do not think there is a way to go back to things as they were, though. I do feel sorry for her in terms of the miscarriage, but not about anything else really.

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Passingthroughagain · 07/11/2026 18:53

Based on your latest reply, OP, I think you should do her a favour and cut her off. You’re never going to reconcile and will always be on your BIL’s side, so let her go so she can heal with the help of her other friends.

becreca · 07/11/2026 18:57

Coldcalmcollected · 07/11/2026 18:40

But it wasn’t told to me in confidence? Not that it matters, but she told us in a way that she clearly thought it was amusing/she was proud of what she’d managed to pull off. She seemed to be aware that it was a bit off, but more of an “the ends justify the means”. She seemed quite taken aback when we were shocked.

Equally, she didn’t ask us not to say anything (and my other SIL is not really her friend outside of their relationship with their partners, so I don’t know why she’d discuss something like that with her). I guess she assumed we’d keep it to ourselves- but BIL is a member of my family and I don’t think you should let family be utterly shafted and say nothing- even if the person responsible is your friend. DH and BIL are very close. I genuinely think he’d have found it very hard to forgive me if he found out I knew about this and had chosen to keep it to myself. Perhaps that is “too enmeshed”, though I don’t think so.

And, if she can betray his trust like that, I can only assume she’d have no compunction about throwing me under the bus and telling everyone that she’d told us and we kept it to ourselves, if it suited her to do so.

I’m only involved now because she keeps phoning begging me to intervene on her behalf, or to criticise BIL. And now her mother is calling me. She does have other friends who can support her- and are doing so- it’s not as though it’s me and no-one else. I think we need to let things cool, and see where we stand after that. I do not think there is a way to go back to things as they were, though. I do feel sorry for her in terms of the miscarriage, but not about anything else really.

You are 100% in the right. She did a disgusting thing and is now reaping what she sowed.

I’d personally tell her to stop contacting you about this and get her mum to stop too. Think long and hard if you want her in your life going forward too. Personally I wouldn’t.

LemonPuppyPorkChop · 07/11/2026 19:02

Coldcalmcollected · 07/11/2026 18:40

But it wasn’t told to me in confidence? Not that it matters, but she told us in a way that she clearly thought it was amusing/she was proud of what she’d managed to pull off. She seemed to be aware that it was a bit off, but more of an “the ends justify the means”. She seemed quite taken aback when we were shocked.

Equally, she didn’t ask us not to say anything (and my other SIL is not really her friend outside of their relationship with their partners, so I don’t know why she’d discuss something like that with her). I guess she assumed we’d keep it to ourselves- but BIL is a member of my family and I don’t think you should let family be utterly shafted and say nothing- even if the person responsible is your friend. DH and BIL are very close. I genuinely think he’d have found it very hard to forgive me if he found out I knew about this and had chosen to keep it to myself. Perhaps that is “too enmeshed”, though I don’t think so.

And, if she can betray his trust like that, I can only assume she’d have no compunction about throwing me under the bus and telling everyone that she’d told us and we kept it to ourselves, if it suited her to do so.

I’m only involved now because she keeps phoning begging me to intervene on her behalf, or to criticise BIL. And now her mother is calling me. She does have other friends who can support her- and are doing so- it’s not as though it’s me and no-one else. I think we need to let things cool, and see where we stand after that. I do not think there is a way to go back to things as they were, though. I do feel sorry for her in terms of the miscarriage, but not about anything else really.

You’re involved now because you’re her friend. Your friendship predates her relationship with your BIL. When I say she told you in confidence, of course she did! Anyone who tells you something you know they would not want someone else to know is telling you something in confidence, regardless of whether they actually say ‘You are not allowed to tell anyone else, ever’. If you felt that was an unfair imposition, the time to say it was to her, at the time of the telling, not to tattle to your DH.

Also, are you saying you’re basing your entire theory that she deliberately stopped using contraception on a single sentence that she then immediately backtracked from?

Also, I’m not clear on the timeline of when your DH told his brother your theory — you say it was ‘around the time’ of the miscarriage. Whether it was before or after seems like a crucial distinction. After the pregnancy had ended and your BIL had had a vasectomy, telling him his wife believed he’d been tricked into having a child he didn’t want would clearly have been a very different decision.

Also, it’s not clear from your posts: does your friend know you were the one responsible for telling the person who told her partner? You say she’s furious, but not whether she knows it was you.

Coldcalmcollected · 07/11/2026 19:04

Hoardasurass · 07/11/2026 18:39

Intentionally stopping your contraception without telling your partner so you can have a baby that you know he doesn't want isn't a mistake its abusive and premeditated abuse at that.
Quite frankly I wouldn't want anything to do with her ever again and think that tge miscarriage was the best possible outcome of a pregnancy under these circumstances

I think this is what I’m struggling with. It is coercive and abusive behaviour, not a genuine mistake. If BIL had abused her, I would not be supporting him- family member or not. And nobody would be expecting me to either. In fact, I think I’d be called all sorts if I were to be supportive of a BIL who had done something if similar gravity to my friend.

I’m also surprised that she would do this, I genuinely would not have expected that if her. It’s made me question if I really know her. I am baffled that she would think I would find it acceptable- let alone vaguely amusing- which makes me think she doesn’t really know me. It’s thrown me a bit that this is the case, that despite a long friendship where I thought our ethics and morals were similar, are not.

i don’t agree with the idea that BIL was being irresponsible to rely on their mutually agreed form of contraception. He would have been unreasonable if he has not accepted the possibility of contraceptive failure- which was not the case, as this is not what happened. I think it was probably better that he did get a vasectomy, but equally I cannot agree that it’s fine/to be expected for his partner to lie about taking contraception.

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anchoviesanchovies · 07/11/2026 19:07

I don’t think you’ve put a foot wrong OP. What she did was outrageous.

People saying you’re too involved, bullshit! It’s your family for gods sake!

And those saying he was irresponsible with contraception are frankly nuts. It was presumably agreed that they would use the pill as their form of contraception and she concealed “making a mistake” (don’t believe that for a second by the way). He did nothing wrong!

MaggiesShadow · 07/11/2026 19:10

You were a bad friend by passing on what she said, but a good sister-in-law for the same reason.

I don't think your friendship will survive an entangled mess like this, to be honest. And frankly, it doesn't sound like you want it to. You are, rightly or wrongly, being incredibly judgemental. My guess is you won't be be able to see her the same going forward even without her wanting you to plead her case to your BIL.

Her mother calling you seems a bit strange? What did she want? Was it just to have a go at you? Regardless, you don't even seem that bothered by the potential end of your entire friend group so I do wonder at you even stewing this much on it! You picked your side. You seem happy enough to live with the consequences. Personally, I'd let sleeping dogs lie now. I can't imagine she'll want to rekindle the friendship anyway.

Sunshineandgrapefruit · 07/11/2026 19:14

I would go out with her and support her along the lines of 'you clearly want kids, he doesn't and it's not possible now, I know you love him but sometimes you have to walk away and this could be the best thing for you- go find someone who does want kids with you'.

Hundslappadrifa · 07/11/2026 19:20

If he didn’t want a child with her, he should’ve sorted out his own contraception. What she did was bad, but he’s responsible for his own dick.

Passingthroughagain · 07/11/2026 19:27

Hundslappadrifa · 07/11/2026 19:20

If he didn’t want a child with her, he should’ve sorted out his own contraception. What she did was bad, but he’s responsible for his own dick.

Agreed. Also, what kind of man shows his relief at his partner miscarrying? Fine he didn’t want another child, but surely he could’ve put his own feelings aside to support her as she went through the trauma of her body expelling their baby.

Coldcalmcollected · 07/11/2026 19:29

LemonPuppyPorkChop · 07/11/2026 19:02

You’re involved now because you’re her friend. Your friendship predates her relationship with your BIL. When I say she told you in confidence, of course she did! Anyone who tells you something you know they would not want someone else to know is telling you something in confidence, regardless of whether they actually say ‘You are not allowed to tell anyone else, ever’. If you felt that was an unfair imposition, the time to say it was to her, at the time of the telling, not to tattle to your DH.

Also, are you saying you’re basing your entire theory that she deliberately stopped using contraception on a single sentence that she then immediately backtracked from?

Also, I’m not clear on the timeline of when your DH told his brother your theory — you say it was ‘around the time’ of the miscarriage. Whether it was before or after seems like a crucial distinction. After the pregnancy had ended and your BIL had had a vasectomy, telling him his wife believed he’d been tricked into having a child he didn’t want would clearly have been a very different decision.

Also, it’s not clear from your posts: does your friend know you were the one responsible for telling the person who told her partner? You say she’s furious, but not whether she knows it was you.

well, I’d said it must have been a surprise- she grinned and said “well, not really- you have to do what you have to do sometimes”. I questioned this, and she said something along the lines of “oh come on, you know what I mean, I did what I needed to do. It’ll be fine”. I said I thought she was out of order, SIL said it was terrible thing to do. She then backtracked- “well, it’s not like that. I was just exaggerating, etc”. It was fairly clear that when she thought we’d be on board with it she was being honest and when she realised that wasn’t the case she backtracked.

Perhaps I should have said then and there that I’d tell BIL, but to be honest I was a bit surprised at her actions and initially I wasn’t 100% sure whether telling BIL was for the best. I was appalled at what she’d done, and I would want to know if DH had betrayed me in a similarly egregious way. I told DH as he obviously knows him far better though and he felt BIL would want to know. And, because I know DH would have been very hurt to find out I’d kept information regarding a deep betrayal of his own brother to myself, to protect my friend. Given she’s happy to violate her partners trust, I also can’t believe she would not have revealed that I knew and had kept it to myself if it ever came out. That is perhaps a selfish take, I will admit.

Additionally, she also told SIL- to whom she is not close, and who cannot be argued to have any obligation towards her due to friendship. So, there was always a strong possibility of this information being passed on.

Yes, she knows I told DH and SIL told her DH (my other BIL), who told BIL. BIL told her. She is very angry with us, which makes her insistence on trying to get me to speak to him/be a place for her to vent a bit perplexing. I don’t think I’m the best person for that- for her sake as well as mine.

OP posts:
EdgyNewt · 07/11/2026 19:40

Hoardasurass · 07/11/2026 18:39

Intentionally stopping your contraception without telling your partner so you can have a baby that you know he doesn't want isn't a mistake its abusive and premeditated abuse at that.
Quite frankly I wouldn't want anything to do with her ever again and think that tge miscarriage was the best possible outcome of a pregnancy under these circumstances

Well I guess some people can see beyond what someone has done and others can't.

PrincessDonutTheQueenAnneChonk · 07/11/2026 19:42

Hundslappadrifa · 07/11/2026 19:20

If he didn’t want a child with her, he should’ve sorted out his own contraception. What she did was bad, but he’s responsible for his own dick.

Do you feel the same way if a man removes the condom without his partner knowing? Because that's rape.

Dollymylove · 07/11/2026 19:52

Step away and leave them to it.

Mrcollinswave · 07/11/2026 20:04

LemonPuppyPorkChop · 07/11/2026 17:45

I think you’re way too involved here, and that passing on something she told you to your DH was an outrageous betrayal of confidence. Basically, this is the mess you get when you interfere.

Of course she's going to tell her husband...it was his brother being duped!

Hoardasurass · 07/11/2026 20:09

EdgyNewt · 07/11/2026 19:40

Well I guess some people can see beyond what someone has done and others can't.

I agree some of us have morals and others don't

Thundertoast · 07/11/2026 20:15

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Thundertoast · 07/11/2026 20:16

EdgyNewt · 07/11/2026 19:40

Well I guess some people can see beyond what someone has done and others can't.

So if someone betrayed your family member in this way and you'd stay friends with them? Say your brother in law poked holes in a condom and impregnated your sister against her will?

InessaMou · 07/11/2026 20:48

Coldcalmcollected · 07/11/2026 17:35

I’m being asked to support someone and I can’t. It’s a long one.

Basically, my friend was in a long-term relationship with my BIL (DH’s brother), they met through me. She has always known that he did not want any more children (he has 2 with his ex-wife). She has, until recently, been fine with it- at least publicly. Obviously, I cannot know if she has secretly harboured other wishes but she has never given this impression (and, in previous relationships says she did not want children, so I’m inclined to think this is a change of heart). According to BIL, he has always been 100% clear that he does not want any more children and has never suggested he might change his mind- until recently she has never suggested she was unhappy with this situation. However, recently she decided she does want children. BIL’s view remained unchanged.

A few months ago friend had an “oops” pregnancy- I believe she deliberately stopped contraception without saying so (I.e. planned a pregnancy) based on something she said to me and my other SIL- but she quickly backtracked when both of us were fairly horrified at the “sometimes you just have to make it happen, if you get what I mean” comment.

I would agree she has the right to stop contraception any time she likes, but she should be honest with her partner as it’s a mutual thing if no contraception is being used. Equally, I think both parties have to accept contraceptive failures do happen. But deliberately not using it without saying so is utterly wrong and a huge betrayal of trust, in my opinion.

BIL had a vasectomy very quickly (privately) after he found out his partner was pregnant- against her wishes- as he was adamant he does not want more children. I think he probably should have done it sooner, but equally don’t think it unreasonable that he trusted his partner to take the agreed contraceptive. He was accepting of a contraceptive failure, though he was honest about the fact that he was not keen to keep the baby. He was obviously prepared to shoulder his responsibility to the baby, despite his lack of enthusiasm. I think this is totally reasonable.

Sadly, friend had a miscarriage at 14 weeks. She was, and is, devastated by the miscarriage. I do feel for her- despite the circumstances- and I know BIL’s palpable relief at the outcome probably made it harder for her. But, equally, I think he is entitled to his own feelings and never pretended he was excited to be a father again. Obviously, I have never said that to her- that is just my thoughts.

Anyway, I’d said to DH about what she’s said and that I thought this was very off. DH also thought that what she said was suspicious. It seems other SIL also told her husband. After he thought about it for a short period, he spoke to his other brother- and both decided to speak to BIL. This was around the same time friend miscarried. He told DH he had some suspicions but given events had decided to give her the benefit of the doubt (especially as it cannot happen again).

Anyway, he was devastated to have his suspicions supported and that his partner would do this- he confronted her. According to him she initially denied it, but eventually said she had accidentally messed up her contraception but had just not said anything, so it wasn’t planned in advance (he doesn’t really believe this and thinks it was a very deliberate choice, probably been the case for some time). However, even if it was a one-off slip, she still chose not to say anything which might have meant BIL would have used a condom or abstained- she apparently admitted to him that she thought he would have done one of those things if he had known the reality of the situation. He has ended their relationship. As they aren’t married, she is going to be in a significantly worse financial situation as she has no claim on any assets or their home.

I am in an awkward situation- I do feel sorry for her as she is understandably struggling with the miscarriage, the end of her relationship but equally think she has behaved terribly towards her ex-partner, who is a member of my family. She’s furious with me/us, but equally wanting support and for me to “speak to” BIL to convince him to give her a second chance.

I genuinely can’t do the latter- I think it’s not only not my place, I believe he is right to end the relationship. I can’t apologise for the former, as I don’t think it was fair to ask me to keep this to myself. In short, I don’t really think I am the right person for her to lean on right now. I think our friendship is essentially over. I think it was over the minute she admitted what she had done- I feel that if she understood me, she should have known what I’d think about her actions, and how I’d feel about being asked to keep it to myself when it is a member of my family impacted. I genuinely do not know why she told us/suggested this if she did not want anyone else to know.

Her mother contacted me to say how much friend is struggling and how worried she is about her mental health, and also how disappointed she is that I haven’t been there more for her. The thing is, my friend just wants to rant about what a POS he is to have dumped her weeks after a miscarriage, making her leave their home etc. our friendship group is split- I’d say 3/4 agree what she did was utterly repugnant, and she put myself and other SIL in an awkward situation by telling us and expecting us to say nothing. The others feel that what she did “wasn’t ideal” but that she doesn’t deserve to lose her relationship, home etc over it and the miscarriage should have bought her some grace. This is going to cause problems in our group. I’m ok with this, although I am
sad as we’ve been friends for a long time, as others are entitled to their views.

I do feel sorry for her regarding the miscarriage, but I also think she is the author of her own misfortune and will have to live with the consequences of her actions. Her actions have absolutely rocked BIL too- he feels utterly betrayed, and is finding the violation of trust really hard to come to terms with. I just can’t pretend I’m ok with what has happened. AIBU?

Why are so many people involved in this matter?

  1. You
  2. Your husband
  3. Your sister-in-law
  4. Your sister-in-law's husband / another brother
  5. Your friend's mother
  6. The wider friendship group

Your lives sound like a really bad telenovela. Stop involving yourselves in other people's business. Your brother-in-law already suspected that his partner got pregnant on purpose, it was up to him to confront her about it. Not for you to do it for him, then stand back and wonder why this woman keeps begging you help her back with her ex.

LoveWine123 · 07/11/2026 21:45

InessaMou · 07/11/2026 20:48

Why are so many people involved in this matter?

  1. You
  2. Your husband
  3. Your sister-in-law
  4. Your sister-in-law's husband / another brother
  5. Your friend's mother
  6. The wider friendship group

Your lives sound like a really bad telenovela. Stop involving yourselves in other people's business. Your brother-in-law already suspected that his partner got pregnant on purpose, it was up to him to confront her about it. Not for you to do it for him, then stand back and wonder why this woman keeps begging you help her back with her ex.

Well they are all involved because OP’s friend involved them when they told them what she had done.