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To say “anxiety” is just low self esteem and confidence.

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Alondrada · 04/11/2026 12:47

I know anxiety disorders exist, which are genuine mental illnesses and generally life-long.

But when people avoid certain things and say “I can’t do that, I have anxiety” it’s because they have low self confidence and self esteem.

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Alondrada · 04/11/2026 13:57

MargoLivebetter · 04/11/2026 13:51

@Postjurywoes and @Alondrada surely at some point in your life you have jibbed away from doing something you were afraid of? How are you skiing black runs, how are you diving off the 20ft board, how are you at singing stone cold sober in front of an audience, how are you at confronting a pervert at a tube station, how are you at solo sky diving?

I'm sure you are going to tell me that you are an expert in all of the above, but imagine just for a brief moment that there was one of those activities that you didn't do, not because you couldn't, but because you were afraid to do it. Now apply that to something that you think is a piece of piss, like getting on a train and that might give you an iota of understanding of how it feels for someone to be debilitated by anxiety about something! It doesn't mean that you lack self confidence and self esteem as a person overall.

Honest to goodness, what would be the point of programmes like I am a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here or SAS: Who Dares Wins if it weren't for pretty confident people trying to overcome their fears.

Oh absolutely, there’s things I’ve put off or avoided in life because I’ve been worried or scared about something. Or I’ve had such little belief in myself I put something off because I believe I can’t do something or won’t be able to do something adequately.

I would never say I have “anxiety” about it though. I can feel anxious. Every single living being on Earth can feel anxious about things. We just don’t all have an anxiety disorder or mental illness.

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theansweris42 · 04/11/2026 13:58

Postjurywoes · 04/11/2026 13:02

So you knew you could leave it and someone else would do it............
If you were in on your own an needed to ring, you would have had to, therefore proving my point.

If you had to you would.

This is fundamentally incorrect.

There's no way to just "push on" through real anxiety. The answer isn't to think through "what would happen if you made the call/stepped on the train" as you're asking people.

In the case of this call to GP, if no DH, she might have done it the next day. She might have made contact online.

Some people could never do it and the child might suffer. It's an illness with varying degrees of severity just like all illnesses.

People with anxiety KNOW there's not necessarily an identifiable harm or consequence, it's not logical.

You wouldn't say to a diabetic "well, try and regulate your blood sugar, it's not that serious".

Anxiety is an illness as well. People (temporarily) lose the ability to walk, talk, dress in some cases. It can lead to delusions, hallucinations; it can be a very powerful symptom.

Sure it probably is overused - by people who really are afraid to do something but could do it; and by people who aren't but can't be arsed to do something.

And by people feeling normal stress cos their body/brain is making an alert (check the passport, be prepared for the presentation). You're still wrong.

But the idea you're putting forward here is very regressive.

You don't have to have a diagnosis to be experiencing anxiety.

HappyLizard23 · 04/11/2026 13:58

YABU, you have a disgusting lack of understanding of anxiety disorders. GAD is a real, diagnosable, life limiting condition. As are other anxiety conditions. Shut up when you know nothing.

MargoLivebetter · 04/11/2026 13:58

Alondrada · 04/11/2026 13:57

Oh absolutely, there’s things I’ve put off or avoided in life because I’ve been worried or scared about something. Or I’ve had such little belief in myself I put something off because I believe I can’t do something or won’t be able to do something adequately.

I would never say I have “anxiety” about it though. I can feel anxious. Every single living being on Earth can feel anxious about things. We just don’t all have an anxiety disorder or mental illness.

So are you saying that your point is or is not about those with anxiety disorders? What is your definition of "having anxiety".

8TinyToeBeans · 04/11/2026 13:59

Postjurywoes · 04/11/2026 13:38

But what will happen if you step on a train?

Nothing and I do it 99.9% of the time. But that doesn't change the presence of anxiety. It doesn't stop the soul destroying feeling that you're going to die as those doors close. I can't get off until the next stop. If it breaks down, then I'm trapped. It's often very busy and very hot, which makes the panic worse.

But I take this and view it as success, because 20 years ago, stepping out the house made me panic so much I ended up on the floor of the porch with no idea how I fell, with my vision tunnelling, absolutely terrified about leaving the house for my weekend job. As a teen, with nothing to stress about, a good life, no trauma. It's not logical. Anxiety isn't logical.

And I have a good job, a career, a home, a husband. That's success. What you are likely seeing as failures, or 'fake', or lack of self esteem, are the little limits on my life that I accept with grace, because I remember when I couldn't function.

Pray you never experience that which you are so ignorant of.

LlynTegid · 04/11/2026 13:59

I think the two things are separate and anxiety is overused such that those who really have it as opposed to nervousness about new or difficult things are often not believed.

Mammalamb · 04/11/2026 13:59

I think you’re confusing someone feeling a little bit apprehensive about carrying out an activity with actual anxiety.

anxiety for me is like a constant alarm going off in my brain telling me that something is very very wrong; but I can’t figure out what it is. Its
getting up in the middle of the night in an absolute panic for no reason .

bingobanjo · 04/11/2026 13:59

I had low self esteem and confidence as a teenager and was incredibly shy.

I’m very, very grateful that opting out of things like getting a Saturday job due to feeling anxious was not an option, because as difficult as it was for me at the time, I would not be the friendly functional adult I am today without those challenging life experiences!

Many years later I’m now medicated for anxiety, and it’s a feeling of fear around terrible things happening to me/family and the sheer depth of human pain possible that would make me cry uncontrollably if my mind went there, which was often.

There is a distinction between general anxiety disorders and social anxiety. But I think my view is yes, there’s not a lot of space for people to feel a normal level of worry and discomfort around real situations and work through that.

Octavia64 · 04/11/2026 13:59

Lol

i was in an accident. I am very anxious around circumstances that remind me of it.

but sure, it’s low self esteem and confidence not the fact my body got mangled.

LuckyHazelFox · 04/11/2026 14:01

Your thread title is unreasonable alone for reducing the condition to a "just".

Knitterlybliss · 04/11/2026 14:01

There is no 'just' about low self-esteem and confidence. It can be paralysing.

honeylulu · 04/11/2026 14:03

But why are you bothered that they say they have anxiety about certain things? If they feel anxious they are having anxiety about it!

If they said "I have an anxiety disorder" and that was a lie, I would get your point.

You can't object to people using a perfectly correct word for the circumstances.

I do think it's overused to be fair and I would tend to say "I'm very nervous" about something that made me feel anxious

Mariets · 04/11/2026 14:03

Ialwaysthoughtitwasadojo · 04/11/2026 13:41

My panic attacks and agoraphobia have got fuck all to do with low self esteem, in fact I'm actually a pretty confident person.

True anxiety disorders are HORRIFIC, if you could experience it for one day you'd realise how ridiculous this post is.

Totally agree. I was agoraphobic for years after I had a massive panic attack totally out of the blue, I
thought I was having a heart attack. I had pains in my chest, couldn't breathe and was shaking uncontrollably, I honestly thought I was going to die and called an ambulance.
Even when they told me me what is was I couldn't stop worrying I was going to have another one. I sat alone at home in constant terror having them over and over again while the kid's were at school and my husband was at work and hid upstairs if anyone came to the house.
Many years later after seeing psychiatrists and taking medication I managed to gain some control but I still can't go anywhere on my own even now as the fear of having another panic attack has never left me.

Overwhelmedandtired · 04/11/2026 14:03

Its a spectrum, just like many things. Your feelings and experiences around anxiety are just different to others. Anxiety can come from different places, worry, lack of confidence etc.

Please don't minimise the term because your experience is different to others, or you choose to label your experience differently to the word others use.

wishingonastar101 · 04/11/2026 14:03

My friend doesn't go on aeroplanes because she has anxiety. It's not that she doubts her ability to sit on a plane...
I have medical anxiety. I stress out when I think I am ill to the point of panic attack. I do not lack confidence in my ability to get ill.

Neuronimo · 04/11/2026 14:04

YABU there are many different reasons for anxiety from trauma through to lifelong disabilities. I have noticed a trend on here for people to dimiss difficulties that they don't have personal experience with. It is very puzzling to me.

BrokenWingsCantFly · 04/11/2026 14:06

Alondrada · 04/11/2026 13:57

Oh absolutely, there’s things I’ve put off or avoided in life because I’ve been worried or scared about something. Or I’ve had such little belief in myself I put something off because I believe I can’t do something or won’t be able to do something adequately.

I would never say I have “anxiety” about it though. I can feel anxious. Every single living being on Earth can feel anxious about things. We just don’t all have an anxiety disorder or mental illness.

From your examples they are not claiming to have an anxiety disorder, just that doing certain things causes them anxiety. Whether that is due to low confidence or low self esteem or not, they feel anxious, therefore get anxiety over doing those things.

You cant just snap out of it even if they do have low confidence or low self esteem. How much easier the world would be for these people if Alondrada could come along and say 'have more confidence/better self esteem' and miracle, just like that they have no fear, no feelings of ANXIETY and can do anything

Alondrada · 04/11/2026 14:08

DiNozzoComingBack · 04/11/2026 13:50

It’s about people who avoid certain things and say they have “anxiety” about it. When they are fully capable but it’s their low confidence in themselves and the fear of being perceived which stops them from doing that certain thing.

Why is anxiety due to a "real" mental disorder more valid than anxiety due to lack of confidence? Both impact how a person lives their life and they may require support to overcome it.

Because having a lack of confidence isn’t the same as suffering from a mental illness.

Mental illnesses, such as anxiety disorders require clinical treatment in the forms of medication and therapies.

Social anxiety disorder is a clinical condition. But someone feeling anxious because they lack confidence in an unfamiliar situation is a normal human response, not a disorder.

Having a lack of confidence doesn’t require clinical treatment. Confidence and self esteem issues can improve by conquering fears, life experiences, changing mindset, creating healthy habits, gaining hobbies.

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Fivebyfive2 · 04/11/2026 14:09

OriginalSkang · 04/11/2026 12:51

As someone with a life long diagnosed anxiety disorder and low confidence and self esteem, I'm not really sure what you mean

What kind of things are you thinking of?

I've got a friend with an anxiety disorder and she really struggles so I get bristley at a lot of posts like the op''s, but from how they've worded this one think I know what they mean...

It's like when people say they have OCD because they like to wipe their kitchen counters down regularly. Or they have PTSD when they very obviously do not. Lots of people say they "have anxiety" as in a full on condition, when what they actually mean is, some things can make them feel anxious/uncomfortable. It is not the same though.

It's the over use of serious terms/diagnosis that sort of water down just how serious they are for those that genuinely have them.

Gloriia · 04/11/2026 14:11

wishingonastar101 · 04/11/2026 14:03

My friend doesn't go on aeroplanes because she has anxiety. It's not that she doubts her ability to sit on a plane...
I have medical anxiety. I stress out when I think I am ill to the point of panic attack. I do not lack confidence in my ability to get ill.

Loads of peope are anxious getting on a plane though, with good reason. Who isn't worried about medical problems?

We really need to normalise some anxiety. Yes if someone's life is massively affected and restricted, they struggle to go out alone and need treatment then that is a disorder.

Being anxious in itself is actually very normal. I think the younger generation are growing up thinking they're ill if they feel very nervous about something

CeeJay81 · 04/11/2026 14:12

Alondrada · 04/11/2026 14:08

Because having a lack of confidence isn’t the same as suffering from a mental illness.

Mental illnesses, such as anxiety disorders require clinical treatment in the forms of medication and therapies.

Social anxiety disorder is a clinical condition. But someone feeling anxious because they lack confidence in an unfamiliar situation is a normal human response, not a disorder.

Having a lack of confidence doesn’t require clinical treatment. Confidence and self esteem issues can improve by conquering fears, life experiences, changing mindset, creating healthy habits, gaining hobbies.

You make it sound so simple! I would say i have anxiety due to low self esteem. So just like that... I can just conquer fears and gain hobbies. Of course it's so easy isn't it?

DiNozzoComingBack · 04/11/2026 14:13

Alondrada · 04/11/2026 14:08

Because having a lack of confidence isn’t the same as suffering from a mental illness.

Mental illnesses, such as anxiety disorders require clinical treatment in the forms of medication and therapies.

Social anxiety disorder is a clinical condition. But someone feeling anxious because they lack confidence in an unfamiliar situation is a normal human response, not a disorder.

Having a lack of confidence doesn’t require clinical treatment. Confidence and self esteem issues can improve by conquering fears, life experiences, changing mindset, creating healthy habits, gaining hobbies.

I woud disagree. Lack of self confidence and inability to operate in the world absolutely requires clinical interference. That's what therapy is for.

Gaitskilling · 04/11/2026 14:14

CeeJay81 · 04/11/2026 14:12

You make it sound so simple! I would say i have anxiety due to low self esteem. So just like that... I can just conquer fears and gain hobbies. Of course it's so easy isn't it?

No one is suggesting it’s ‘easy’. But think what benefit thinking ‘That isn’t possible for me because of my anxiety’ is giving you. There will be some.

Bearandbob · 04/11/2026 14:14

No issues here with self esteem or confidence but I do struggle with anxiety. Currently feeling crippled with anxiety waiting to take my son to a complex dental appointment but I’ll put my big girl pants on and put a smile on my face.

MargoLivebetter · 04/11/2026 14:15

@Alondrada so in relation to your last post, are you saying that the category of people you are talking about in your thread title are claiming to have a mental illness that they don't really have?

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