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To say “anxiety” is just low self esteem and confidence.

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Alondrada · 04/11/2026 12:47

I know anxiety disorders exist, which are genuine mental illnesses and generally life-long.

But when people avoid certain things and say “I can’t do that, I have anxiety” it’s because they have low self confidence and self esteem.

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PinkBottle75 · 04/11/2026 14:42

Alondrada · 04/11/2026 14:37

Then you have mental illnesses, yes? I am not referring to people who have mental illnesses who’s anxiety disorders stop them from easily completing their everyday tasks and lives.

I am speaking about people who do not suffer with mental illnesses and would be able to face a certain situation if they had the confidence and self esteem to do so.

Can you give us an example. It sounds like you've observed something in your life that's made you come to this conclusion.

Why not share?

Borntorunfast · 04/11/2026 14:44

Postjurywoes · 04/11/2026 13:02

So you knew you could leave it and someone else would do it............
If you were in on your own an needed to ring, you would have had to, therefore proving my point.

If you had to you would.

Not true at all. I've never had anxiety until I hit peri. My anxiety is 100% hormonal. It's utterly paralysing. For a long time didn't know WTH was going on because it came from nowhere and made no sense (because it was hormonal and so 'nothing' was causing it, if you see what I mean).

If something needed doing and I was paralysed by the anxiety, and there was no one else to do it, it wouldn't get done.

I'd berate and punish myself for not being able to do something as simple as, say, phoning the GP. But I just couldn't force myself to do it. I'd be stuck.

Thankfully HRT means it's mostly under control. But for someone who has never experienced this - like me, before perimenopause - it seems completely inconceivable, I know. But it's the weirdest and most horrible thing - and for me is made worse by the fact it does not respond to logic or reason.

CeeJay81 · 04/11/2026 14:45

kkloo · 04/11/2026 14:38

Sometimes the word is misused, however the person may be well aware that they low self confidence and self esteem, but they're not likely to say that to any random person are they?
It's far easier and in line with social norms for people to just label it as anxiety. Imagine how awkward it would be if everyone started telling people about how they couldn't do x, y and z due to their low self esteem.

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This. It sounds ridiculous to tell someone you have low self esteem. I would be embarrassed to say this and you'd get people saying you are being ridiculous. Easier to say you suffer anxiety in those situations.

Stompythedinosaur · 04/11/2026 14:47

Anxiety is an emotion that's part of a normal human experience. People have varying abilities to deal with anxiety (and other unpleasant emotions) largely linked to things that aren't their fault, like their early childhood experiences.

I don't think anxiety is exactly the same as low self-esteem, though they can be linked. And I don't think the fact the op can push through anxiety when others can't makes them a superior person.

Postjurywoes · 04/11/2026 14:51

HappyLizard23 · 04/11/2026 13:58

YABU, you have a disgusting lack of understanding of anxiety disorders. GAD is a real, diagnosable, life limiting condition. As are other anxiety conditions. Shut up when you know nothing.

Life limiting

Are you really putting it in the same bracket as Cancer, MND, MS?

frozendaisy · 04/11/2026 14:53

Feeling anxious comes from lack of confidence or low self esteem perhaps

And some people may use anxiety over feeling anxious to not face a situation because it can be an easier cover rather than having to deal with the situation.

But that’s up to them, if it’s your partner or children, or parents or very close friends even you might be able to help build up their confidence or at least let them know you will be there to catch them when they fall. But as for those outside your sphere of influence- what exactly can you do? Shrug and say ok don’t come then.

If it’s just acquaintances, fair weather friends or even more remote strangers online then does it matter what they call it.

Trippine · 04/11/2026 14:54

Postjurywoes · 04/11/2026 13:02

So you knew you could leave it and someone else would do it............
If you were in on your own an needed to ring, you would have had to, therefore proving my point.

If you had to you would.

Hahahahahaha

you don’t know what you’re talking about.

TeensNoMore · 04/11/2026 14:54

Postjurywoes · 04/11/2026 14:51

Life limiting

Are you really putting it in the same bracket as Cancer, MND, MS?

life limiting - as in seriously limits (constrains) your ability to live your life.
Not as in will end your life earlier than 'normal'

GAD is very much life constraining.

LucieO · 04/11/2026 14:55

There’s a difference between being anxious about something specific (a natural human emotion) and having an anxiety disorder. I am sure anxiety can be heightened about certain things if you are struggling with low self esteem.

I have an anxiety disorder (thankfully mostly under control at the moment) and when it is at its worst it is like being in a car speeding at a brick wall all the time. It is debilitating. I don’t have particularly low self esteem.

Postjurywoes · 04/11/2026 14:55

MargoLivebetter · 04/11/2026 13:51

@Postjurywoes and @Alondrada surely at some point in your life you have jibbed away from doing something you were afraid of? How are you skiing black runs, how are you diving off the 20ft board, how are you at singing stone cold sober in front of an audience, how are you at confronting a pervert at a tube station, how are you at solo sky diving?

I'm sure you are going to tell me that you are an expert in all of the above, but imagine just for a brief moment that there was one of those activities that you didn't do, not because you couldn't, but because you were afraid to do it. Now apply that to something that you think is a piece of piss, like getting on a train and that might give you an iota of understanding of how it feels for someone to be debilitated by anxiety about something! It doesn't mean that you lack self confidence and self esteem as a person overall.

Honest to goodness, what would be the point of programmes like I am a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here or SAS: Who Dares Wins if it weren't for pretty confident people trying to overcome their fears.

Considering I've never ski'd or been a diver, it wouldn't be anxiety or lack of confidence that would stop me.

It would be the fact I know I'm putting myself in immortal danger......

Didimum · 04/11/2026 14:57

What comes first though? The anxiety or the effect of the anxiety?

Postjurywoes · 04/11/2026 14:58

Trippine · 04/11/2026 14:54

Hahahahahaha

you don’t know what you’re talking about.

Just because you don't agree with me and vice versa doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about. Or that I'm not entitled to an opinion.

All very well having anxiety when people will pick up the things you can't or won't do.

OriginalSkang · 04/11/2026 14:58

Postjurywoes · 04/11/2026 14:51

Life limiting

Are you really putting it in the same bracket as Cancer, MND, MS?

What on earth don't you understand about that? Have you ever had a panic attack?

As someone with GAD who had a breakdown a couple of years ago and lived in an eternal panic attack for months where I thought I might have to kill myself to make it stop, you really should shut up.

Alondrada · 04/11/2026 15:02

PinkBottle75 · 04/11/2026 14:42

Can you give us an example. It sounds like you've observed something in your life that's made you come to this conclusion.

Why not share?

I’ve given examples.

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Postjurywoes · 04/11/2026 15:02

OriginalSkang · 04/11/2026 14:58

What on earth don't you understand about that? Have you ever had a panic attack?

As someone with GAD who had a breakdown a couple of years ago and lived in an eternal panic attack for months where I thought I might have to kill myself to make it stop, you really should shut up.

But a panic attack won't kill you, will it, surely its self limiting?

Postjurywoes · 04/11/2026 15:03

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PurpleLovecats · 04/11/2026 15:04

Postjurywoes · 04/11/2026 13:02

So you knew you could leave it and someone else would do it............
If you were in on your own an needed to ring, you would have had to, therefore proving my point.

If you had to you would.

In my case, I wouldn’t do something even if nobody else could do it for me, it just wouldn’t get done. So I don’t leave the house really. My anxiety prevents it. I had a blood test on Monday, had a panic attack I the surgery and only managed to bc stay as DH was by my side. If he had not been there I would have left, I simply would not have managed it. It is incredibly debilitating.

Alondrada · 04/11/2026 15:04

Stompythedinosaur · 04/11/2026 14:47

Anxiety is an emotion that's part of a normal human experience. People have varying abilities to deal with anxiety (and other unpleasant emotions) largely linked to things that aren't their fault, like their early childhood experiences.

I don't think anxiety is exactly the same as low self-esteem, though they can be linked. And I don't think the fact the op can push through anxiety when others can't makes them a superior person.

Im not a superior person. Very far from it.

Theres been times I’ve absolutely not been able to push through situations due to my own insecurities and low confidence. But it doesn’t mean I have a mental illness.

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Postjurywoes · 04/11/2026 15:05

PurpleLovecats · 04/11/2026 15:04

In my case, I wouldn’t do something even if nobody else could do it for me, it just wouldn’t get done. So I don’t leave the house really. My anxiety prevents it. I had a blood test on Monday, had a panic attack I the surgery and only managed to bc stay as DH was by my side. If he had not been there I would have left, I simply would not have managed it. It is incredibly debilitating.

So you wouldn't have got the blood test....and what would have been the consequences??

A new appointment made?

Postjurywoes · 04/11/2026 15:06

PurpleLovecats · 04/11/2026 15:04

In my case, I wouldn’t do something even if nobody else could do it for me, it just wouldn’t get done. So I don’t leave the house really. My anxiety prevents it. I had a blood test on Monday, had a panic attack I the surgery and only managed to bc stay as DH was by my side. If he had not been there I would have left, I simply would not have managed it. It is incredibly debilitating.

So you don't leave the house?
Shopping?
Thats what I'm saying you wouldn't starve yourself to death would you.

OriginalSkang · 04/11/2026 15:06

Postjurywoes · 04/11/2026 15:02

But a panic attack won't kill you, will it, surely its self limiting?

What? It stops, then another starts. Its affects everything. I couldn't work, had to be looked after like a toddler. Couldn't sleep. Couldn't eat. Couldn't be on my own. What on earth is self limiting about that? Its not just 'Oh, I feel a bit panicky. It will pass'. It feels like you're going to die. And then as soon as it stops it happens again. Its taken years to get back to a point where I can just get through the day and go to work. I'm nowhere near 'cured', because that isn't a thing. I take medication. I have psychotherapy - it helps me just be alive. I can't do a million things. My life is limited. I'm just existing to get through

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 04/11/2026 15:07

Alondrada · 04/11/2026 13:00

I would like to reiterate, that I am not talking about anxiety disorders, the mental illnesses which affect someone’s daily living and their ability to carry out everyday tasks.

It’s about people who avoid certain things and say they have “anxiety” about it. When they are fully capable but it’s their low confidence in themselves and the fear of being perceived which stops them from doing that certain thing.

I work with a grown adult in her 30s who is "too anxious" to get a taxi or a bus to work in case she gets assaulted and insists her dad drops her off.
However, this same woman can get herself to concerts in London and even Disney World in USA.
So I call bullshit on her anxiety.

Olderbutt · 04/11/2026 15:07

Fieldmiceears · 04/11/2026 12:56

Respectfully, you have no clue what is going on inside other people's minds or what their lived experience is.

Yes some people throw "anxiety" around as an excuse, but you have no grounds to say if that is true or not.

If you find yourself exhausted or frustrated by specific people, remove yourself from the interaction, cut contact, ignore etc. Concern yourself more with your own wellbeing. Have you listened to the "Let Them" podcast? Really helpful in getting perspective on this type of annoyance.

This

OriginalSkang · 04/11/2026 15:08

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Oh great. Yeah, as long as I'm alive its all good. No matter who it hurt.

bellinisurge · 04/11/2026 15:09

“Just” doing a lot of heavy lifting

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