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Intense dejavu episode

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flowngo · 02/10/2023 21:26

Posting for traffic as spooked -

Have spoken to my best friend who's a GP but also posting to see if anyone has experienced similar.

This eve was waiting for my boyfriend to ring me to catch up about some future plans, we had been together with my child earlier this eve, low key dinner and chill time, no alcohol etc.
around 2030 I thought I will just go up to bed (out of character for me at 2030) and he can wake me up to chat later on. As I thought this, I had a phone call from him, except it was like a pocket dial as he sounded a little far away but he was saying things like "...stripper pole and don't give me any bullshit about not drinking, I know you drank in Barcelona" - of course I was immediately thinking is he ok, has he been drinking, who is he talking to, what's going on. I hung up and immediately texted to say call me asap, and googled intense deja vu to see what on earth was happening. The words were consistent with something we would have a bit of a row about a good while back.

He rang me and said he hadn't realised he had pocket dialled me, and was confused about the narrative I had heard.
Of course I was completely spooked by this, my friend said to contact the GP tomorrow morning, I know that Neuro won't see me overnight at ED so unless I have any symptoms of an upcoming seizure I'm not sure what to do!

OP posts:
flowngo · 03/10/2023 00:32

Night all!

OP posts:
JellyBeanFactory · 03/10/2023 00:32

flowngo · 03/10/2023 00:12

Amazed no one has put this down as woo thoughts!

Because it's not.

I haven't got an answer OP but Ocam's Razor theory states it's usually the simplest and most obvious. I very much doubt it was an hallucination in this case.

Moonlightdust · 03/10/2023 00:33

PinkMoscatoLover · 03/10/2023 00:16

@Moonlightdust you suggested something similar up thread. Voice notes won’t play when you’re on a phone call on an iPhone. Let alone allow the other person on the line to somehow hear the voice note

Was thinking more a bug in the audio of her partner’s phone. Something along lines of this post https://community.oneplus.com/thread/1433761
but nobody seems to think it’s a phone issue and more likely the partner is a gaslighting weirdo or OP is having a psychotic episode.

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BurnToastAgain · 03/10/2023 00:40

You have a very odd style of communicating OP. If that’s your normal style I do apologise but if it’s unusual for you then I agree that you should seek help tomorrow.

One thing that struck me was that you said you’d had a very good day by all accounts, as though third parties had confirmed this for you. Do you believe you had a good day or did you seek confirmation from others? Have you perhaps had a spell of memory loss? Can you remember what you did today? If not then I think you should go to A&E tonight.

flowngo · 03/10/2023 00:43

BurnToastAgain · 03/10/2023 00:40

You have a very odd style of communicating OP. If that’s your normal style I do apologise but if it’s unusual for you then I agree that you should seek help tomorrow.

One thing that struck me was that you said you’d had a very good day by all accounts, as though third parties had confirmed this for you. Do you believe you had a good day or did you seek confirmation from others? Have you perhaps had a spell of memory loss? Can you remember what you did today? If not then I think you should go to A&E tonight.

No, I was alone much of the day. I mean it was a good day in that I completed some of my jobs list, spent some time with my DS and boyfriend and had some time relaxing alone with the tv and doing some cooking. Nothing out of the ordinary, no difficult phone calls or meetings to sort out.

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Hardly123 · 03/10/2023 00:44

I suppose the other thing to ask (I should be asleep already considering the time) is do you have any history of mental health difficulties? There's something about your writing style that's making me wonder if you're okay. Apologies if I'm overstepping!

flowngo · 03/10/2023 00:47

Hardly123 · 03/10/2023 00:44

I suppose the other thing to ask (I should be asleep already considering the time) is do you have any history of mental health difficulties? There's something about your writing style that's making me wonder if you're okay. Apologies if I'm overstepping!

No hx of anxiety/depression or any dx of anything. I was really really rattled by what I heard, much as anyone would be, whether their first thought was cheating/hearing voices/something else.

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Hardly123 · 03/10/2023 00:49

That's fair enough. I think I would put it down to either a rant on his part that he's too embarrassed to admit to (I definitely talk to myself), or some weird phone bug.

flowngo · 03/10/2023 00:51

I suppose I will never get to the bottom of whether he was secretly ranting to himself or chewing the fat with a friend or whatever, I just want to make sure I'm ok! Who knows what people will do next, see all sorts on mumsnet!

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AlphabettySoop · 03/10/2023 00:59

I joined Mumsnet purely to reply to this thread. I wanted to share something I experienced a few years ago.

I took my dog out for his usual walk on my partner's farm, took the usual route. Came back and told my partner about a short cut I'd found to a shop nearby, a path through a specific hedge. My partner was very confused and said that the path didn't exist. We ended up having an actual argument about it, I even remember thinking he was gaslighting me. He got Google earth up and asked me to show him where I meant, it wasn't there. I was convinced it was out of date. I insisted he come back on another walk so I could show him, and I was 100% confident there would be a huge HA! moment, until I got there and the hedge was solid. It was incredibly distressing.

A couple of weeks later, I was asked to give my name and address to a supplier for my business, and I didn't know either. A customer came in to my business and found me crying. I couldn't even string a sentence together to explain why I was so upset - it's like I'd had a stroke. My doctor's surgery was directly opposite my shop so I walked over there and luckily they agreed to see me. I had lots of tests/referrals and absolutely nothing was wrong with me, the GP said she'd seen similar cases a few times and that she wasn't concerned.

Obviously this phone call issue is different, but I'm sharing this because:

  1. I disagree that suspecting a hallucination is a completely wild and impossible hypothesis. Yes, it's unlikely, but definitely possible.
  1. If it was your mind playing tricks on you, it could be absolutely nothing to worry about.

Either way, speak to your partner about this more in depth, and definitely chat to your GP.

Underminer · 03/10/2023 01:05

Deja poo more like. That feeling that you’ve heard all this shit before from him 🤔

CallieQ · 03/10/2023 01:09

That's not deja vu

Feraldogmum · 03/10/2023 01:30

It's far more likely that you had actually briefly nodded off and his phonecall woke you but before you fully came to and picked up phone, you dreamt the dialogue. Its not unusual when you are coming to,for the waking brain to be creative with external stimuli. Say for example you are dreaming about a song and you wake for it to start playing on your alarm radio,you think you're psychic when actually you had heard the dj announce the song he was about to play,but you forgot this fact. The ringing phone probably prompted you to play out this previous conversationjust as you were waking.
You had planned to go to bed unusually early,so must have been tired. The brain can do funny things when we are tired or stressed .It sounds like you are not fully reconciled with previous issues in your relationship and this is playing out in your subconscious .

StripedElephant · 03/10/2023 01:46

I’m not sure how you’ve immediately jumped to the conclusion of a neurological episode rather than believe that you heard it because it was actually being said.

And I’d love to know where in the UK you live where you can call your GP for a chat and have an ad hoc chat with a neurologist. The thought of trying to get through to my GP, never mind being allowed an actual appointment, is enough to make me hallucinate.

And I’m also a bit confused that you’d consider going to A&E (I did wonder if you were American by referring to it as the ED). Round here it’s a minimum 5 hour wait and I’ve seen plenty of people sent home by the triage nurse for far more than overhearing a conversation when you were pocket dialled.

Firefly1987 · 03/10/2023 02:01

How do you simultaneously have different lifestyles yet spend a lot of time together?

Why are you with someone who goes on rants all the time?

I think he just recorded that argument he had with you either deliberately or accidentally and played it back to you (either deliberately or accidentally) if that's possible on a phone. Could you ask him what recordings he has and if any of them involve him ranting at you?

DreamTheMoors · 03/10/2023 02:48

I managed to make it all the way through this bizarre thread.
I wonder why you started it @flowngo if your mind is already made up - and about all the wrong things. You argued with many people and were snarky with people who tried to help.
I’m not going to beat a dead horse and rehash points people already stated so eloquently. I didn’t start out thinking you were hallucinating, but after reading your posts, it appears you’ve talked yourself into believing that you’ve hallucinated.
I wish you good luck.

TurqoiseJasper · 03/10/2023 02:54

flowngo · 02/10/2023 22:20

I would go up to ED just for peace of mind if it wasn't so busy!

I want to leave my door unlocked and sleep downstairs tonight in case something happens and I need to summon help.

I do think you need help, it is not reasonable to think you had an auditory hallucination, want to go to a and e, and sleep with the door open in case anything happens.

What do you think might happen??

babyproblems · 03/10/2023 03:39

Notcookie · 02/10/2023 21:43

I think the trauma from your Mum's condition is weighing on you and causing you anxiety. It sounds like you heard a conversation from a pocket dial and are putting 2+2 together and making 10.

This is nothing to do with deja vu.

Agree with this.
i can’t imagine you will get a GP appointment based on this surely??? How will you even explain why you think you need one?? I’m a bit lost for words and this isn’t what deja vu is??

jacksprateatnofat · 03/10/2023 03:43

a similar thing has happened to me.
I had a dancing Santa which used to play a song and sing. Literally a pound shop type thing that was battery operated. At Christmas there were too many people at our house so I vacated my bedroom for relatives and slept downstairs in the sitting room. In the middle of the night most nights this thing would start up spontaneously and play its song and do it’s dance but in the background, it would play excerpts from the day’s conversations through its tinny little speaker. They were mundane conversations though - like my Nan talking to me about school. It was almost like it was both recording and playing. I ended up removing the batteries because it spooked me so much.

a lot of woo stuff happened to me in that house, including phone white noise, messages appearing out of nowhere and just white noise, so I did put it down to woo. Not saying you should but that was my explanation.

nodneat · 03/10/2023 04:02

This thread has also made me feel uneasy. It feels to me like OP has lost touch with reality? Seems to be on a 'high' .. not my intention to offend but think more like mental health related

jenpil · 03/10/2023 04:10

AlphabettySoop · 03/10/2023 00:59

I joined Mumsnet purely to reply to this thread. I wanted to share something I experienced a few years ago.

I took my dog out for his usual walk on my partner's farm, took the usual route. Came back and told my partner about a short cut I'd found to a shop nearby, a path through a specific hedge. My partner was very confused and said that the path didn't exist. We ended up having an actual argument about it, I even remember thinking he was gaslighting me. He got Google earth up and asked me to show him where I meant, it wasn't there. I was convinced it was out of date. I insisted he come back on another walk so I could show him, and I was 100% confident there would be a huge HA! moment, until I got there and the hedge was solid. It was incredibly distressing.

A couple of weeks later, I was asked to give my name and address to a supplier for my business, and I didn't know either. A customer came in to my business and found me crying. I couldn't even string a sentence together to explain why I was so upset - it's like I'd had a stroke. My doctor's surgery was directly opposite my shop so I walked over there and luckily they agreed to see me. I had lots of tests/referrals and absolutely nothing was wrong with me, the GP said she'd seen similar cases a few times and that she wasn't concerned.

Obviously this phone call issue is different, but I'm sharing this because:

  1. I disagree that suspecting a hallucination is a completely wild and impossible hypothesis. Yes, it's unlikely, but definitely possible.
  1. If it was your mind playing tricks on you, it could be absolutely nothing to worry about.

Either way, speak to your partner about this more in depth, and definitely chat to your GP.

Edited

So, the shop wasn't there either?

You'd imagined the whole thing?

jenpil · 03/10/2023 04:14

SurpriseItsMeHorseyNeighNeigh · 02/10/2023 23:54

"We were very confused about what had happened, and the best we could come up with was that the network had somehow recorded and played that chunk of his part of the conversation to me after cutting us off the second time."

Huh? that can't happen.

Why not?

What's your theory then?

Nanaof1 · 03/10/2023 04:16

LadyoftheLavaLamp · 02/10/2023 22:04

I for one am very confused as to how you’ve got from A to B here…

It truly is a convoluted pathway between the two points.

If she had imagined the butt dial and conversation and none of it had happened, I would think there might be a neuro problem. But, the butt dial happened and a "mystery conversation" was heard. That's just not the way hallucinations work, or temporal lobe epilepsy or déjà vu.

My concern is either:
1--the DP is pulling an elaborate hoax on her to make her feel like she is losing it.
2--DP doesn't want to admit he had this conversation with someone so is denying it.
Neither of those are acceptable behaviors from the DP.

Reasonably, it could be that he butt dialed her but she ended up hearing a conversation that came through the line and has turned it into more than what it was. Connecting dots that are a stretch.

Nanaof1 · 03/10/2023 04:33

flowngo · 02/10/2023 22:20

I would go up to ED just for peace of mind if it wasn't so busy!

I want to leave my door unlocked and sleep downstairs tonight in case something happens and I need to summon help.

You would go to an emergency room because your DP butt-dialed you and you think you heard voices that were your DP's but not your DP's about something you have talked about in the past but he wouldn't talk about now. Even though the butt dial is real, concrete and provable, you think you've experienced an auditory hallucination, even though you have never had one before.

You do realize that when someone has auditory hallucinations, they don't show up in reality, as in, an auditory hallucination--you "hear" the phone ring, you "hear" a conversation/voices. But when you check, you had no incoming calls during that time.... IOW, there is no auditory activity before the hallucination. You had a phone ring, in reality.

But hey, maybe you'll make medical history. 👂👀

Lifecanbebeautiful12 · 03/10/2023 04:35

This isn’t de ja vu and I doubt you’re having auditory hallucinations. I imagine it’s incredibly rare to have a random hallucination of a 28 second phone call without a severe mental health issue. If you really believe you hallucinated this then you need to see a doctor ASAP. If I was in your position my first thought would be that he’d accidentally pocket dialled me whilst talking to another woman. It usually is the most simple answer. Cheating men can hide that whole side of the personalities from partners very easily. And the fact that he’s denying any of that was said is another red flag (and that you believe him and are instead blaming a hallucination?!). Either you have a mental illness or he’s a liar.