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pinkcandyj · 04/09/2023 19:30

My husband and I have been married for over 10 years.

In that time I had never even met his older brother as the family had been kind of estranged from him for 25 years.

My BIL moved down 2 years ago following his divorce, my in laws helped him buy one of the family Buy to Let's (which was supposed to be my husband's inheritance).

Anyway I have always had a good relationship with my in laws.
I have always helped them whenever I could and basically done the job of my BIL.

My husband is a wonderful son and helps them where he can.

I am now feeling a certain type of way.
My BIL is renovating his house and in laws have been helping him.

Bearing in mind both my in laws moan about him not ever helping them, seeing them, spending time with them etc.

It got me thinking.
In all these years I dont think my in laws have ever spent as much time helping me as they are doing with my BIL.
In fact I dont think they have ever helped me.

The only thing they do is buy me chips every now and then.

I have spent hours helping them with legal paperwork, gardening, shopping, chores, doctors, brought them presents to cheer them up.

My BIL couldnt care less about them.
He has never helped them, he is just selfish and all about himself.

He stayed away for 25 years and only came back because his ex left him with nothing.

Deep down I dont feel appreciated, I feel as if they take me for granted.
They claim to see me as a daughter, but I dont feel or see that.
They never help me.

Am I being unreasonable to be upset and to not want to help my in laws again?

OP posts:
Maddy70 · 05/09/2023 10:36

You are being ridiculous. It's their son. Yes he was estranged for years , now he isn't and they're making up lost time together.

FarmGirl78 · 05/09/2023 11:40

You're wanting to stop doing nice helpful things for people you have a good relationship with, because they have started to do nice helpful things for another person?

UABU.

pinkcandyj · 05/09/2023 11:49

It is the fact that I feel used and unappreciated and it is very one sided.

Im the one who is doing all the giving - when it should be give and take.

I have literally spent hours helping my in laws - things their own children should be helping them with.

But on the few occasions I have asked for help - I am either ignored or they are too busy.

It is not my place to be doing all these chores and errands, I have my own life to be living as other posters have rightfully pointed out.

There has been some good advice offered here and I will be making changes.

OP posts:
FairytaleOfLancashire · 05/09/2023 11:51

YABU

Thebigblueballoon · 05/09/2023 11:54

I’ll say one thing (as the estranged member of my family): you do not know what happened with your brother-in-law and in-laws in the past. You do not know WHY their relationships developed as they did. And you don’t know the motive behind them helping out your previously estranged BIL. I’d be willing to wager things aren’t as you believe.

pinkcandyj · 05/09/2023 12:19

Thebigblueballoon · 05/09/2023 11:54

I’ll say one thing (as the estranged member of my family): you do not know what happened with your brother-in-law and in-laws in the past. You do not know WHY their relationships developed as they did. And you don’t know the motive behind them helping out your previously estranged BIL. I’d be willing to wager things aren’t as you believe.

Yes I know everything and both parties have told me.

BIL got married and moved away had his own family.
He didnt even want his family at his own wedding and my in laws and husband were treated like outcasts at the wedding and for the duration of the marriage.

BIL blames all this on his ex wife.

BIL only came back into their lives as he was broke and had nothing at 60 and took pity on him.
They have told me numerous times they regret giving him the house, he is selfish etc.

I was told all this but wanted to make my own opinion on him and when I helped him a few times I was never even thanked - the apple dosent fall far from the tree.

Im annoyed because I have taken on the role of the sons. Lockdown for example I was the one doing all mine and their shopping.
Going out every week and putting myself at risk - nobody else helped them and on the few occasions I ask for help I am mugged off.

BIL comes after 25 years ago for his own benefit and they help him non stop - thats why I am so annoyed.

OP posts:
BanditsOnTheHorizon · 05/09/2023 12:22

Next time someone says 'oh but they see you as their daughter' or 'you're like the daughter we never had' simply smile and say 'your actions don't match your words'

I agree with pp, drop the soap, you're busy or can't help for whatever reason.

pinkcandyj · 05/09/2023 12:22

BanditsOnTheHorizon · 05/09/2023 12:22

Next time someone says 'oh but they see you as their daughter' or 'you're like the daughter we never had' simply smile and say 'your actions don't match your words'

I agree with pp, drop the soap, you're busy or can't help for whatever reason.

100% spot on.

OP posts:
Goldie2021 · 05/09/2023 12:24

You are a good DIL and I’m sure they appreciate you even if they don’t show it. They have just got their son back in their life after 25 years. No matter the age, he is always their son. Don’t punish them for wanting a relationship with their son.

Olika · 05/09/2023 12:29

BanditsOnTheHorizon · 05/09/2023 12:22

Next time someone says 'oh but they see you as their daughter' or 'you're like the daughter we never had' simply smile and say 'your actions don't match your words'

I agree with pp, drop the soap, you're busy or can't help for whatever reason.

I would do this.

billy1966 · 05/09/2023 14:56

So your husband did nothing for them during Covid?
Just You?

Have a hard look at your husband, he is more like them than you realise.

pinkcandyj · 05/09/2023 15:19

billy1966 · 05/09/2023 14:56

So your husband did nothing for them during Covid?
Just You?

Have a hard look at your husband, he is more like them than you realise.

Yes it was me that did all the shopping for in laws.

It was impossible to get a delivery slot so I had to go in.

Apparently as my husband had pneumonia as a child he classed himself as vulnerable.

I have taken on board everyone's advice and input.

It is FIL's birthday next month and usually it would be down to me to plan a birthday surprise, order the cake etc.

I told my husband today he will have to arrange something out himself or with the siblings as I refuse to be taken for a mug anymore.

OP posts:
Janieforever · 05/09/2023 16:10

It’s really hard to understand exactly what you want from them, you really only mention paying half of the vets bills and how you had to pay it. Why didn’t your husband help?

what is it you want in return? Is it financial? Is this the issue, you reference them only buying you chips a few times. Are you jealous they are helping their son financially and you want the same?

given their ages, and yours, what do you want from them?

pinkcandyj · 05/09/2023 16:40

Janieforever · 05/09/2023 16:10

It’s really hard to understand exactly what you want from them, you really only mention paying half of the vets bills and how you had to pay it. Why didn’t your husband help?

what is it you want in return? Is it financial? Is this the issue, you reference them only buying you chips a few times. Are you jealous they are helping their son financially and you want the same?

given their ages, and yours, what do you want from them?

No I dont want financial help from them.

It is how they treat me compared to other people.
I feel as if they dont appreciate me and take me for granted.

For example when IL go to town they will always treat my husband to some cakes and treats, but I get left out.

MIL does my husbands laundry to help him out. I have never been asked.

For his birthday husband was treated to some really luxury gifts where I only got a Britney Spears perfume.
I always get them a professional cake made which I pay for myself.

And as for the chips, my husband has to persuade MIL to get them for me.

Whenever they go grocery shopping - husband is always asked what he wants and they will get it for him.
We have separate diets.
It would be nice to be asked seeing as I always ask them.

My former sister in law was treated to a luxurious £300 meal when she recently came down, bearing in mind she had stayed away for 25 years previously and loathed each other.

The few times I have asked for help such as help with putting artificial hedging up on a fence, or ask them to get me some cat food when I have been short, I am always given an excuse.

When they go on holiday my husband is always treated to something nice - even though its me who looks after their cats whilst they are away.

But whenever MIL wants some thing from the supermarket I am expected to cater to her every item.

Whenever there is a problem MIL will be round asking for help.

It is give and take in this world, and all them have done from me is take.

At times they can talk quite rude if I do something they like i.e help my own family which is incredibly selfish.

I think boundaries need to be established so I will he discussing this with my husband so everyone knows where they stand.

OP posts:
Thebigblueballoon · 05/09/2023 16:55

Why are you doing things with the expectation that you’ll get something back?

Janieforever · 05/09/2023 17:01

pinkcandyj · 05/09/2023 16:40

No I dont want financial help from them.

It is how they treat me compared to other people.
I feel as if they dont appreciate me and take me for granted.

For example when IL go to town they will always treat my husband to some cakes and treats, but I get left out.

MIL does my husbands laundry to help him out. I have never been asked.

For his birthday husband was treated to some really luxury gifts where I only got a Britney Spears perfume.
I always get them a professional cake made which I pay for myself.

And as for the chips, my husband has to persuade MIL to get them for me.

Whenever they go grocery shopping - husband is always asked what he wants and they will get it for him.
We have separate diets.
It would be nice to be asked seeing as I always ask them.

My former sister in law was treated to a luxurious £300 meal when she recently came down, bearing in mind she had stayed away for 25 years previously and loathed each other.

The few times I have asked for help such as help with putting artificial hedging up on a fence, or ask them to get me some cat food when I have been short, I am always given an excuse.

When they go on holiday my husband is always treated to something nice - even though its me who looks after their cats whilst they are away.

But whenever MIL wants some thing from the supermarket I am expected to cater to her every item.

Whenever there is a problem MIL will be round asking for help.

It is give and take in this world, and all them have done from me is take.

At times they can talk quite rude if I do something they like i.e help my own family which is incredibly selfish.

I think boundaries need to be established so I will he discussing this with my husband so everyone knows where they stand.

Ok that long laundry list is financial. Dressed up as buying uou stuff but it’s financial at its core. Nearly every single thing is things others were bought and you were not.

And I’ve no idea why your mil is doing your husbands laundry, or why people knocking on 80 are knocking down walls and why you wished them to help you put a hedge in. I can’t imagine asking the elderly tp do that sort of physical labour. and why your husband didn’t help you put the hedge in, or why you personally had to pay the vets and he didn’t help you with that either.

it is all very very odd.

Shinyandnew1 · 05/09/2023 17:04

The few times I have asked for help such as help with putting artificial hedging up on a fence, or ask them to get me some cat food when I have been short, I am always given an excuse.
I wouldn’t expect 80 year olds to be helping with hedging but whatever excuse they gave/give you about other stuff, give it back to them.

Tell your Dh all of the things they do that maKe you feel used. He should have your back here, eg ‘mum-it was ax who fed your cats every day for a fortnight, why have you bought a holiday gift for me and not her?!’

jane1956 · 05/09/2023 17:25

its the prodigal son parable isn't it? they are so pleased he is back

billy1966 · 05/09/2023 17:43

Are people on here that obtuse?
Really?

Her husband does NOTHING for his parents.

They turn to the nearest skivvy woman, the OP.

They impose on her constantly and expect to be involved in all invites.

They call her selfish if she does something for her family.

They make a point in small ways of not showing appreciation when they could.

Why?
Because they think she is a skivvy that was gifted to them by her much older lazy husband.

She isn't worthy of small kindnesses and they have zero respect for her beyond her endless use to them.

She will be of course useful for all caring duties because the old man she married is too selfish and lazy to get involved.

The poor OP is a decade being used by the old man she married and his parents.

I hope she finally spends all her energies on HER family and leaves her inlaws to her lazy selfish husband.

She has a miserable future ahead of her if this continues.

As for gifts?
All the running around she does for them and they can't source a decent gift equal to their son's that does nothing for them?

Too right she has every right to feel unappreciated.

They know well they are using her.
Why else would they be nasty about her spending time on her own family?

I am glad to read she is finally waking up.

Pneumonia as a child🙄how convenient for him.

I have had double pneumonia multiple times, been hospitalised multiple times, didn't stop me and many others doing shopping during Covid.

The OP has wasted a decade of her life being used.

Good for her that she is finally waking up.

70Cats · 05/09/2023 17:48

You have just woken up and seen the light. Don’t back down. Practice lots of negative answers to their requests.
Just pass everything on to your husband and BIL they are the golden boys.

Maddy70 · 05/09/2023 17:52

You have a husband problem not an in law problem

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Cornishclio · 05/09/2023 18:11

I think you need to stop caring so much what the PIL think or want. Just stop doing things for them and focus on your family. You don't need to be rude but just say you have your own stuff going on and maybe they should ask your BIL. Just shut down conversations about how bad he is or mute the conversation. Don't engage.

Even if it falls to your husband he is their son so up to him to set his own boundaries.

Terrifict · 05/09/2023 18:53

just keep passing in law related tasks back to your husband to coordinate with his brother. Their birthdays, appointments, Christmas gifts, whatever. Go spend time with your own family and friends. If they pass comment, simply ignore and tell them ‘oh you’ve got both your sons to help you, you don’t need my help too’

Hibiscrubbed · 05/09/2023 20:22

You’re being totally mugged off. Why are you buying them professional birthday cakes?

Do you think the twenty-odd year age gap is contributing to this? Do they see you as a child to be exploited? Buying you chips seems to tie in with that. It’s all very, very weird.

But stop mugging yourself off, it won’t make them like you or do anything for you, they clearly don’t respect you at all.