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pinkcandyj · 04/09/2023 19:30

My husband and I have been married for over 10 years.

In that time I had never even met his older brother as the family had been kind of estranged from him for 25 years.

My BIL moved down 2 years ago following his divorce, my in laws helped him buy one of the family Buy to Let's (which was supposed to be my husband's inheritance).

Anyway I have always had a good relationship with my in laws.
I have always helped them whenever I could and basically done the job of my BIL.

My husband is a wonderful son and helps them where he can.

I am now feeling a certain type of way.
My BIL is renovating his house and in laws have been helping him.

Bearing in mind both my in laws moan about him not ever helping them, seeing them, spending time with them etc.

It got me thinking.
In all these years I dont think my in laws have ever spent as much time helping me as they are doing with my BIL.
In fact I dont think they have ever helped me.

The only thing they do is buy me chips every now and then.

I have spent hours helping them with legal paperwork, gardening, shopping, chores, doctors, brought them presents to cheer them up.

My BIL couldnt care less about them.
He has never helped them, he is just selfish and all about himself.

He stayed away for 25 years and only came back because his ex left him with nothing.

Deep down I dont feel appreciated, I feel as if they take me for granted.
They claim to see me as a daughter, but I dont feel or see that.
They never help me.

Am I being unreasonable to be upset and to not want to help my in laws again?

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wildwestpioneer · 08/09/2023 16:14

Funny how it's acceptable to use and take the piss out of people, but as soon as you put boundaries in place 'you' are the problem.

billy1966 · 08/09/2023 15:47

I suspect you will see the full breathe of his ugliness and nastiness the more you stand up for yourself.

All financials, pensions, shares, pay slips, band accounts, property deeds.

A forensic accountant via your solicitor would be money well spent if you think he will hide money.

billy1966 · 08/09/2023 15:44

Oh my goodness OP.

I am so sorry.

As expected.

You were targeted by your husband for your youth.

He and his parents have used and abused your kindness for years thanklessly.

The penny has dropped and you have said no more.

Your controlling abusive husband will not stand for this and is now turning up the pressure on you to get back in your box, shut up, and do as you are told.

Absolutely call the police.
Tell them you have left your highly controlling abusive husband and are afraid for your safety to return for your pets and belongings.

Take all important paperwork with you.

Get good legal advice and divorce him.

You are still a young woman with a great future ahead of you.

You don't need to waste it being carer for a horrible old man and his parents.

Do not doubt yourself.

Their upset, tears and fury is because their skivvy has said no more.

Please keep posting.

We are here for you.

70Cats · 08/09/2023 14:50

Wishing you luck and a happy future.

mightymam · 08/09/2023 11:23

OP, they've groomed and moulded you into a model of what they've wanted (knowing you'll conform to their whims and desires) by laying on the 'you're our daughter' schtick and when you've pushed back, they've thought nothing of ostracising you and making you feel you're the problem.

You're husband comes across as a spineless bastard who is his parents sidekick. Lose the lot of them and live your life in peace and tranquility. Focus on the people that matter- you and your family and friends. You only get once chance at life so make it count.

wildwestpioneer · 08/09/2023 11:17

You can ask the police to accompany you when you go to the house to collect pets and belongings

Honeychickpea · 08/09/2023 01:13

pinkcandyj · 04/09/2023 22:51

@Scattery yes I agree with you!

For years I have felt like an unpaid carer.

I think it is time to do stuff for myself, pets, family etc.

I will make it clear to my husband that I will not be involved in the future care or my in laws as it is not my place and I have already sacrificed a lot of my time for them.

As I am only mid 30s, my husband is in his early 50s, BIL is 60 and in laws are 79 it kind of falls on me as the youngest person to do everything.

You poor thing, they really saw you coming. Distance yourself for your own sake.

Brandyb · 08/09/2023 01:10

pinkcandyj · 05/09/2023 09:05

Hi yes I have quite a lot of friends and family but it is tricky at times as the in laws think that they should be invited whenever I have family over and get offended.

If I start spending time with friends my husband will get funny and say "Oh I tnink they realise your not bothered about them" which makes me feel guilty.

I have to keep reminding my husband that they are not my parents - I dont owe them anything.

I have started to take a step back as I have my own family that I want to help.

Your real problem is conveyed here:

If I start spending time with friends my husband will get funny and say "Oh I tnink they realise your not bothered about them" which makes me feel guilty.

To me this is more damning than anything else you've said about your OH. You've bust your balls running around after his parents and yet you don't get to have time out and do what you want and see who you want that will bring you relaxation and relief? Fuck that shit.

i recently threw a party for me and my DH's 25th anniversary, and we felt obliged to make short speeches.

Mine was basically quoting Esther Perel:

  1. “Love rests on two pillars: surrender and autonomy. Our need for togetherness exists alongside our need for separateness.”
  1. “Today, we turn to one person to provide what an entire village once did: a sense of grounding, meaning, and continuity. At the same time, we expect our committed relationships to be romantic as well as emotionally and sexually fulfilling. Is it any wonder that so many relationships crumble under the weight of it all?”

I think we're successful (so far)because a huge section of our lives is autonomous and on our own account. Ever since our two kids were tiny we've still gone out and done stuff on our own/in our own spheres. We have a very well established/ancient friend network so there's always someone to do something with.

But OP why is your partner not getting that you need your own connections/family time and fully supporting you in this? You are doing all your roles perfect. Why is he being guilt-tripping about this basic stuff?

Why do couples sabotage each other? Isn't it easier to bless your partner with those little getaways/adventures/time outs, and get brownie points, and hear about it later?

Codlingmoths · 08/09/2023 00:40

Wow op I think you’ve had some revelations including how self centred your husband his and how you’re not a priority for him at all. He’s just worried he will have to do more for his parents without the house slave around. Have you any family members or friends who can go wiht you to get your stuff? If he won’t let you in or gets aggro, you can call the police as its your house too and he can’t stop you going in and getting your stuff.

remember not to continue to put yourself last here- you have the right to everything of yours and half the joint stuff really. So if there are dishes blankets cake pans you particularly like, pack them up too when you go- snap a photo of The item and the cupboard so he can’t spin lies.

FedUpWithEverything123 · 08/09/2023 00:27

Oh crikey I had missed your latest updates OP! I hope you are ok!

FedUpWithEverything123 · 08/09/2023 00:23

OP I think the problem is your husband.
He seems to have offloaded all his responsibilities (to his parents) onto you. And he has helped to make you believe that they value you. This all suits him fine, and them. But they are all exploiting you.

Then your husband gets annoyed with you when you spend time with your friends & family?? Fuck that!

Sorry OP but i am not a fan of your husband at all. Your in-laws are shits, so you can distance yourself from them. But your husband is also a shit....

CruCru · 08/09/2023 00:03

I have to admit that my first thought on reading through your posts is how peculiar your husband is. He has married a much younger woman and keeps telling her how much his parents think of her as a daughter ... but, given the age gap between your PIL and their sons, you are more like a granddaughter in age. He then expects his young wife to do everything for the parents.

How have the in laws blocked you, they don't know how to work online shopping at Tesco? Is it more that your husband has blocked you on their devices?

When is your husband next at work? Will you be able to get into the house?

ThereIbledit · 07/09/2023 23:51

Women's aid is another place you can go to for advice about getting yoru things and pets safely.

I'm so sorry that your husband is such a selfish arsehole who isn't going to support you on this one.

Things will be hard for a while but you are SO much better off without him and those bloody inlaws.

CuteCillian · 07/09/2023 23:16

You are a brave woman.
I would be tempted to put everything you have explained here, regarding the care and help you have provided for your in-laws and the lack of respect you have received from them in return, in a letter. Keep a copy as a reminder to yourself not to go back. I suspect they will be an echo chamber for each other and your (D)H in saying how unreasonable you are being. Let them see in black and white how deplorable their treatment of you has been. I'm sure they will soon miss your input.
Do seek legal advice asap.

RandomMess · 07/09/2023 23:00

You have a happy future ahead!!

Only your parents and family to help, loving reciprocal relationships and no watching your H & BIL & Ex-SIL having gifts and treats ravished on them what you get chips once a year at best.

morknmindi · 07/09/2023 22:56

Parental guilt most likely.

He was estranged dow years and now they have him back they will bend over backwards to help him.

That's not a slight on you.

pinkcandyj · 07/09/2023 22:53

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@Keyworks

Thank you for your kind words and support, very much appreciated.

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canfor · 07/09/2023 22:32

It is worth nipping back when you know he is out and if that doesn't work for you OP, the police may be able to escort you. Worth ask8ng them for sure.

Interesting that as soon as you moved on from being a doormat nobody wants to know you. You weren't like a daughter after all then.

@canfor
Hi yes it seems now that I have started standing up for myself nobody is bothered about me.

When husband is at work I can get my pets and my essential belongings.

Apparently the in laws are "so upset" because I finally told them how I felt.
They have both blocked me, husband is pushing for me to apologise to them?

I was not abusive (like they have been towards me) I just spoke the truth.

I just need to get away from the lot of them and have a fresh start but I know my husband wont just let me go hence why I am considering the police.

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pinkcandyj · 07/09/2023 22:34

Olika · 07/09/2023 22:11

I am so sorry to read your update. Your DH's reaction is so odd. I don't have advice on olive etc but just want to wish you good luck and pls do t let them control and bully you. Flowers

@Olika
Thank you so much for your kind words and support.

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canfor · 07/09/2023 22:32

It is worth nipping back when you know he is out and if that doesn't work for you OP, the police may be able to escort you. Worth ask8ng them for sure.

Interesting that as soon as you moved on from being a doormat nobody wants to know you. You weren't like a daughter after all then.

Olika · 07/09/2023 22:11

I am so sorry to read your update. Your DH's reaction is so odd. I don't have advice on olive etc but just want to wish you good luck and pls do t let them control and bully you. Flowers

pinkcandyj · 07/09/2023 21:40

Thanks for the helpful advice and support.

It does look as if we will be separating as husband had accused me of bullying his parents because I have backed of from them.

To be honest I feel very controlled, he uses a lot of things as emotional blackmail.

The story has now been turned around and he is saying "my mum has been in tears over this" etc.
Like I just told him him and his parents constantly play the victim card and I am the bad person.

They never take account for their actions, at times both his parents have been nasty to me for no reason.

I am currently staying with a friend as I cant bear to be near him.
He can be very aggressive at times and from how is he talking to me on the phone I dont think he will just let me collect my stuff and pets.

Is it worth contacting the police?

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Testina · 06/09/2023 08:52

@pinkcandyj With the shopping in lockdown, IL arent tech/computer savvy at all and when we could find a Tesco slot for them - again I had to do it for them but they werent keen on online shopping.

I think it’s important that you recognise this for the lazy bullshit that it is. So that you could not be guilted by it.

I am your husband’s age, which means my parents and my peer group’s parent are around the 80 mark, like your lazy-arsed PIL.

Let’s say born 1945.

As they turned to adults, they had the amazing inspiration of the first moon landing.
At the age of 20 and then for their entire working lives, the BBC aired, “Tomorrow’s World” - today’s “old people” grew up with technology so change.
They were 22 when ATMs were introduced.
I used a BBC computer in primary, when they were 35.
Their children were sending them emails last century.
Affordable mobiles have been around for 20 years.

They are not Victorians!!!
They have lived through the introduction of computers and mobiles when they were working age adults.

Every single parent of my peer group owns a smartphone or iPad. Yeah, some do the one finger stabby thing and think “Password123” is unbreakable. But they ALL use computers.

Now I’m not saying there’s no-one out there who doesn’t. But it’s a minority, usually an excuse to not bother.

Seriously - which generation invented all the stuff you young un’s take for granted now?!!😉

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