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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Bob Withers on GMB and This Morning today

133 replies

HandsOffMyRights · 19/11/2018 07:38

Psychoanalyst Bob, who wrote the excellent piece for yesterday's Mail, has just gone head tp head with India W on GMB. I didn't see it, but there's plus one and catch up.

He's on This morning at 10.30.

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birdsdestiny · 19/11/2018 07:42

He struggled to get a word in but what he said was valid. India was on the defensive and I think that's the first tv interview I have seen where that was the case. It was very useful for getting the concerns, especially around children with autism, to a wide audience.

HandsOffMyRights · 19/11/2018 07:54

Thanks. He said on Twitter he'd push more on the next interview.

I hope it's not Ruth and Eamon, IW's fan club,

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HandsOffMyRights · 19/11/2018 07:57

Its on itv plus one now

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R0wantrees · 19/11/2018 08:20

Psychoanalyst Bob, who wrote the excellent piece for yesterday's Mail

thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/a3426753-Tomorrows-Mail-on-Sunday-Front-Page

AnyOtherPerson · 19/11/2018 08:38

Even if it is the IW fan club, misogyny says that Eamon will take the point better from Bob than he did from Posie....

LangCleg · 19/11/2018 08:55

I hope he gets the chance to speak positively about the alternative first line approach he favours in integrative therapy. None of the three Jungian psychotherapists voicing public concern about the affirmative/medical path for children are opposed to physical transition if bodily acceptance cannot be achieved through therapy.

Carowiththegoodhair · 19/11/2018 08:55

It’s very difficult to get a word in edgeways in these ‘debates’. Especially when faced with a number of gobshites. He did a good job.

LangCleg · 19/11/2018 09:16

Here is a video with Bob and Miranda Yardley being interviewed by Dr Oren Amitay some of you might be interested in:

R0wantrees · 19/11/2018 09:52

This Jungian Life,
'ARCHETYPAL DYNAMICS OF GENDER TRANSITION'
(podcast)
"Lisa, Joseph, and Deb circumambulate the difficult issue of gender reassignment. They discuss the significance of teen girls wishing to transition and the current tendency to foreclose the meaning of this and move rapidly into medical procedures, a process of concretization instead of curiosity and exploration. Lisa discusses previous examples of symptoms and their diagnoses in history, leading to an understanding of the influence of cultural factors on mental illnesses and diagnosis. Finally, gender reassignment is considered as a Promethean venture, and although it is now possible to challenge the gods of genetics, it is also truly awe-full. We suggest that gender transitioning, like much else, can be psychologically transformative only if there is a conscious relationship to it."
www.thisjungianlife.com/episode-33-archetypal-aspects-of-gender-transition/

LangCleg · 19/11/2018 10:11

Ooh, thanks R0!

SirVixofVixHall · 19/11/2018 10:37

He’s on now against Bergdorf.

SirVixofVixHall · 19/11/2018 10:38

Bergdorf sighing, and trying to interrupt. In high heels, obv.

SirVixofVixHall · 19/11/2018 10:38

Annoying hair flicking of purple hair.

SirVixofVixHall · 19/11/2018 10:39

Bergdorf mainly speaking.

SirVixofVixHall · 19/11/2018 10:40

Bergdorf interrupting again.

littlbrowndog · 19/11/2018 10:41

Bob good there

bellabelly · 19/11/2018 10:42

He's pushing back despite Bergdorf doing best to interrupt constantly.

SirVixofVixHall · 19/11/2018 10:42

Bob Withers v sensible. Why don’t they stop Bergdorf interrupting?

RepealtheGRA · 19/11/2018 10:42

Anyone want to comment on PS’s Freudian slip of ‘fag’ WTF was that all about?

I’m liking Bob.

bellabelly · 19/11/2018 10:42

"Munroe, please come in." Grin

SirVixofVixHall · 19/11/2018 10:42

Bergdorf is so annoying.

SirVixofVixHall · 19/11/2018 10:43

Oh the suicide thing, wondered how long it would be before that manipulation would be thrown in.

bellabelly · 19/11/2018 10:44

"I wish the left wing press would pick this up more." Amen to that!

SirVixofVixHall · 19/11/2018 10:44

Withers sensible. Bergdorf ridiculous.

SirVixofVixHall · 19/11/2018 10:45

Amen to that too.