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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Bob Withers on GMB and This Morning today

133 replies

HandsOffMyRights · 19/11/2018 07:38

Psychoanalyst Bob, who wrote the excellent piece for yesterday's Mail, has just gone head tp head with India W on GMB. I didn't see it, but there's plus one and catch up.

He's on This morning at 10.30.

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bellabelly · 19/11/2018 10:45

Female presenter looking bored of teh whole thing!

bellabelly · 19/11/2018 10:45

Anyone going to call in?!

RepealtheGRA · 19/11/2018 10:47

This morning being far less biased than they were with Posie. PS saying discussion is essential.

Going to be a phone in.

Thank you Bob Withers, well done for speaking out and that was a really good performance.

Strongarms27 · 19/11/2018 10:48

I'm not sure how Bob could be accused of being biased by Munroe. He's a medical professional expressing a researched opinion. What qualifications does Munroe have? Honest question.

littlbrowndog · 19/11/2018 10:48

Glad it wasn’t Ruth and her husband. That would have been unbearable
Bob got message over about protecting kids
Bergdorf banged on about the bigoted dm and how many children were now unhappy after the piece

littlbrowndog · 19/11/2018 10:50

Yeah strongarms
How is Bergdorf qualified

littlbrowndog · 19/11/2018 10:50

And now I got the adverts for the boxed set of butterflies 😂

charlestonchaplin · 19/11/2018 10:51

He got a lot of good points in. I hope people pick up on the point he mentioned of people being coached, especially online, on what to say to get a diagnosis of gender dysphoria. I have seen this myself, though with adults.

SirVixofVixHall · 19/11/2018 10:52

Bob Withers barely had a chance to speak but came over well. Bergdorf had to resort to being sneary about the Mail on Sunday. Withers is a professional with genuine concerns about children. Bergdorf has no experience of children, and an agenda. Who will people trust ? We have a friend whose daughter at 16 is suddenly identifying as trans, very obviously to do with other tricky things in her life. It will be an absolute tragedy if she ends up on medication, then having surgery. I’m grateful to Bob withers for the article and to the MoS for printing it.

RepealtheGRA · 19/11/2018 10:57

Yep, Bob Withers was brilliant, got in points about it being gay conversion and about how he didn’t want to be writing for right wing press but the left wouldn’t touch it.

bellabelly · 19/11/2018 10:59

Yes, thank you, Bob, if you see this.

CashBack · 19/11/2018 11:02

I wish I had the screenshot of MB requesting an under 16 year old message via DM. I would send it to Bob and put it on the TM/Mail FB and Twitter threads.

FloralBunting · 19/11/2018 11:02

I thought that was much better than This Morning has been before. Obviously they were much more concerned to get on with the discussions about I'm a celebrity than be particularly thorough on this one, but they do love a medical professional on TM, so he was always going to be on a good footing.

Bergdorf was primed with the usual methodology of course, but the sneery 'Daily Mail bigotry' accusation was beautifully undercut by Withers' response that he would love the left wing press to pick it up, and all Bergdorf had was more 'Daily Mail are bigots' which might play well on Twitter, or even MN, but isn't going to have too much traction with the general public, a vast portion of which read it.

A worthwhile piece, and he kept it very laser focused on the issue of child protection despite Bergdorf's efforts and blythe suicide 80% stats (!!!).

CashBack · 19/11/2018 11:09

I found the story of a child left in the woods raised by wolf's interesting, Romulus and Remus? Could this be a suggestion from Bob of life scripts staring an ugly duckling, little red riding hood and emperor's new clothes?

FloralBunting · 19/11/2018 11:36

Yes, he was talking about the creation of retro-narratives I think, where people invent past feelings to justify and access specific treatment. Unfortunately Bergdorf didn't understand or let him make his point, and thought he was 'comparing trans children to feral children' which was rather a spectacularly stupid misreading.

SirVixofVixHall · 19/11/2018 11:37

God the woman on the phone in has just advised a caller to take her FIVE YEAR OLD to mermaids.n

SirVixofVixHall · 19/11/2018 11:38

This woman giving advice is a total and utter idiot. Talking about non binary now in the most ridiculous way.

SkinnyTrinny · 19/11/2018 11:39

I hope the woman offering advice on This morning is made bankrupt by the families she is destroying so she can earn virtue cookies.

SirVixofVixHall · 19/11/2018 11:40

This poor mother online now. Getting truly terrible advice.

bellabelly · 19/11/2018 11:40

Who IS this woman on the phone in? She is awful.

SirVixofVixHall · 19/11/2018 11:40

Agree Skinny

SirVixofVixHall · 19/11/2018 11:41

She is genuinely shocking me. The advice is appalling.

Electron1 · 19/11/2018 11:41

This batshit woman on the telly dispensing abuse is appalling.

SkinnyTrinny · 19/11/2018 11:42

Most people will go away from that thinking WTF is the woman giving advice talking about?

The law firms will be rubbing their hands together.

CoolCarrie · 19/11/2018 11:44

She is generally crap at giving advice, but has excelled herself with this bollocks! Well done to Bob, he was brilliant !